Review: 10316 The Lord of the Rings: Rivendell
Posted by CapnRex101,
Countless spectacular locations are found across Middle-earth, including the beautiful Elven realm of Rivendell. The autumnal colours and elaborate architecture appear exquisite onscreen and offer ideal inspiration for LEGO, which 10316 The Lord of the Rings: Rivendell realises!
The model looks absolutely incredible on display, containing several of the most recognisable buildings located in Rivendell. The bright colours appear wonderful in official images and an amazing selection of minifigures is supplied, with the Fellowship foremost among them. Moreover, the interior offers some unexpected details.
Summary
10316 The Lord of the Rings: Rivendell, 6,167 pieces.
£429.99 / $499.99 / €499.99 | 7.0p/8.1c/8.1c per piece.
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Fundamentally, this rendition of Rivendell is among the best sets ever produced
- Incredible architecture and colour
- Almost flawless detailing
- Clever building methods
- Many enjoyable references
- Comprehensive minifigure selection
- Very occasional lapses in detail
The set was provided for review by LEGO. All opinions expressed are those of the author.
Box and Contents
Colourful models are commonly accentuated by the dark 18+ packaging and Rivendell certainly looks appealing. The flame yellowish orange band across the box matches the autumnal colours associated with Imladris during the Third Age, as the influence of Elves in Middle-earth gradually diminishes, before many leave for Valinor.
Inside are 49 numbered bags, alongside three instruction manuals. Similar to 10307 Eiffel Tower and 76405 Hogwarts Express - Collectors' Edition, no numbers are repeated and multiple bags are sometimes opened at the same time, apparently to aid in construction. Fourteen stickers are also provided across two sheets. Printed pieces would have been welcome, naturally, but I think these stickers are acceptable.
Minifigures
After relinquishing possession of the One Ring, Bilbo Baggins journeys to Rivendell and writes an account of his adventures. There he encounters his nephew and the other Hobbits, shortly before their departure on the mission to destroy the Ring. This minifigure depicts the aged Bilbo and features an accurate tan waistcoat and white hair, which would have benefitted from some grey flecks.
The minifigure also includes dual-moulded short legs, which Frodo Baggins shares. This useful manufacturing method was widely introduced after the original The Lord of the Rings range was finished, so clearly distinguishes the modern Hobbits from their precursors. Their bare feet look superb and Frodo's classic reddish brown jacket and dark red waistcoat, with a nice dark green cape, are perfect too.
Frodo arrives in Rivendell after being stabbed at Weathertop, so appears appropriately stunned from the wound. However, perhaps a concerned face would have been better for the Council of Elrond, with this design kept for possible future sets. Bilbo's other expression looks outstanding though, recreating the memorable 'scary Bilbo' moment from the film and showing the continued influence of the Ring!
Of course, Frodo rarely appears without his faithful gardener and mission companion, Samwise Gamgee. The minifigure wears an attractive sand blue cape, so appears more colourful than his previous portrayal in 9470 Shelob Attacks, eleven years ago, although his printed reddish brown braces remain essentially the same and correspond with the movies.
Sam's hair colour has also been darkened from medium nougat to dark orange, while Meriadoc Brandybuck has experienced the opposite. The actual hair component is identical to the earlier piece though, albeit with a new part number, so retains the same intricate texture and suits the Hobbits. Merry's dark green jacket and yellow waistcoat look splendid, particularly with metallic gold patterns on the waistcoat.
Peregrin Took is similarly attired in his finery, with a detailed scarf. All three minifigures feature traditional smiles, but also include second expressions chosen to reflect their personalities. Sam accordingly appears very serious and carries a frying pan, while Merry looks excited and Pippin is nervous. Naturally, the more troublesome Hobbits are laden with food, including Elven lembas bread.
Whereas the other members of the Fellowship are dressed fairly consistently across their whole adventure, Aragorn wears more formal attire for the Council of Elrond. The padding underneath his dark brown robe displays nice texture and I like the decoration around his collar. The tousled hair element seems appropriate too, while the double-sided head includes some facial hair.
Boromir incorporates the same hair element, albeit in dark orange, so these minifigures notably resemble their designs from 2012. Nevertheless, the character's facial expressions look perfect and Boromir's dark blue robes are richly detailed, with metallic silver accents, an ornate belt and dark red sleeves. These bright colours contrast brilliantly against the dark brown cloak.
A collection of sixteen weapons are provided, packaged in their own bag and appearing in pairs or groups of four. The first is Aragorn's sword from his service as a Ranger, while Boromir wields a heavier weapon with a distinctive broad blade and fuller. Both swords are remarkably accurate to their onscreen designs. Boromir's famous shield looks excellent too, decorated with a metallic boss and tiny rivets.
Akin to the Hobbits benefitting from the dual-moulded legs developed after they last appeared in minifigure form, Gandalf the Grey includes a modern dress piece to recreate his robes, greatly improving upon the prior minifigure. The decoration across the torso and dress element matches his original garb and the reverse also displays some creasing, despite usually being covered.
Legolas Greenleaf appears equally detailed, as metallic silver patterns complement the earthy colours of his attire. Sand green and sand blue look marvellous together and the dual-moulded boots are effective as well. However, I think tan would have been more suitable for Legolas' hair than blonde and maybe this Elf should have included unique hair, which could accommodate his quiver.
The dual-moulded ears and textured braid look brilliant though. Legolas is equipped with a bow and Gandalf includes his staff, along with a hat and hair element. Glamdring is missing from the aforementioned accessory pack, but will hopefully appear in a subsequent pack because many memorable weapons have yet to be produced.
Gimli completes the Fellowship of the Ring and introduces a new beard component, with lovely texture and braided details on both sides. The dark brown helmet slots neatly over Gimli's beard and has been updated from the earlier minifigure, which surprised me because the existing part was tremendous. The new design is similarly impressive though, adorned with gold and bronze patterns.
Representatives from varied peoples of Middle-earth descend on Rivendell to determine the fate of the One Ring and Gloin, Gimli's father, is among the Dwarven attendees. The beard appears equally detailed in white, but I dislike the plain shirt underneath. Gloin's clothing is never clearly presented onscreen in The Lord of the Rings, so perhaps his attire from The Hobbit could have given inspiration instead.
The two Dwarves include medium legs, which are ideal, since these characters stand between the heights of Men and Hobbits in the films. An alternative hair element is supplied for Gimli and looks reasonable, although repetitive as Gandalf and Gloin use the same piece. The minifigure's twin axes are excellent though, with grips on the haft and immediately behind the axehead.
Elrond, the Lord of Rivendell, convenes the council and his elegant robes capture outstanding detail. Bronze and metallic silver colours are again displayed across the front and look fantastic in combination with dark red. Subtle detail continues onto the back and Elrond's head is printed with silver circlet, alongside cheerful and frustrated expressions.
I think printing this circlet is actually more successful than using a dedicated hair component, as the minifigure from 79006 The Council of Elrond does. However, exactly the same rubbery piece appears on Arwen and such repetition between the Elves is noticeable. A couple of alternatives should definitely have been produced for these minifigures, replicating Arwen's wavy hairstyle.
Additionally, the head selected for Arwen is disappointing and I think this character warrants her own design. The white and metallic silver dress looks wonderful though, while Arwen's Evenstar pendant hangs around her neck. This minifigure comes with a book, containing a printed 1x2 tile originally developed for the Harry Potter range.
Two unnamed Elves are also provided, featuring the same dual-moulded hair elements, in dark brown and blonde. Frustrating though their repeated use is, these pieces are very detailed and I love the requisite pointed ears. These double-sided heads have appeared before, but are again well-chosen for the Elves.
Both minifigures wear dark bluish grey robes, with sand green and metallic silver accents. While these designs look great, their colours should differ between them, at the very least. The dress provides some variety though and this torso is cleverly designed, so the dark green belt appears equally natural with or without the ribbons hanging underneath.
The Completed Model
10316 The Lord of the Rings: Rivendell contains over 6000 pieces and occupies an enormous space on display, measuring 73cm across. The combination of muted dark tan and olive green colours with vibrant trees and roof tiles looks spectacular and I appreciate how different sections of the setting are angled, enhancing its realism. Of course, this configuration also increases the depth of the model.
The structure is assembled in three connected sections, corresponding with the three instruction manuals. They fit together smoothly using Technic axles and the upper floor of the main building includes another clip, ensuring that the eye-catching roof pattern appears seamless. The option to divide the model is certainly useful when moving Rivendell around.
As normal, Rivendell is intended to be presented from the front, although the interior is also very detailed. I wonder whether an arrangement akin to 10305 Lion Knights' Castle would have been possible, so the model could be folded and enclosed on every side, or opened to create a wider facade. However, the rural features of Imladris require some separation from the focal building, so this design is probably more suitable.
Rivendell comprises several interconnected buildings in Peter Jackson's movies, with the most memorable scenes taking place around Elrond's chambers. The largest building therefore takes inspiration from this location, although condenses and rearranging certain features in relation to the films. I think the result looks marvellous, placing the iconic council courtyard at its centre.
The model looks stunning from the front and extensive detail continues around both sides. Elven buildings often forego solid walls in favour of slender columns, flooding the interiors with natural light. That distinctive architecture is immediately recognisable here and I like the archways along the ground floor in particular.
White tail elements are cleverly integrated to form these gothic arches, connected using Technic axles at their base and slotting beautifully beneath 1x2 inverted slopes. Minifigures can enter the building through the central arch, which is interesting as the model otherwise maintains a border of plant-covered banks around its edge. The edge of the roof is also nicely finished, but includes an unsightly reddish brown Technic piece.
Elrond founded Imladris in 1697 of the Second Age, almost 4800 years before the Fellowship of the Ring is formed. Older structures are therefore intermingled with new and I imagine this stone tower is much older than its surroundings. The blending of dark and light bluish grey elements is appealing, with darker bricks framing the statues.
Each statue includes an identical torso and double-sided head, offering subtle variation between figures, as some feature a gentle smile and others appear more severe. These statues actually adorn the base of a ruined tower in the film, situated between the council courtyard and another tower that remains standing. Combining those towers into one was definitely a good decision for the LEGO model.
The octagonal shape looks excellent, using 1x1 peak slopes to close potential seams where the walls meet. The narrow windows are also attractive and I like the decorative stonework beneath the sand green roof. Ideally, this roof would taper more gradually towards the uppermost section of the tower, but there are no obvious alternatives to these 6x6x2 arch bricks.
Interesting stonework continues towards the top, with alternating 1x2 smooth slopes creating the impression of overlapping bricks. The white railings look nice and there is enough room to stand a minifigure inside, but actually reaching inside is difficult. In addition, the roof closely resembles designs from Rivendell's onscreen appearances, topped with a golden finial.
Separating this narrow slice of the larger structure gives easy access to the interior, where some bookshelves and a bedroom can be found. The central part of the building is shallower and thus accessible from the back, so I am pleased the designers found another solution to reach inside this deeper section, behind the tower.
The bookcase on the ground floor resembles those in Elrond's library, where Gandalf and Elrond discuss plans for the One Ring in The Fellowship of the Ring. The books look superb in a variety of colours and with different spines, flanked by decorative scrolls. Moreover, this room contains a pair of candelabra and a récamier, with green cushions.
However, my favourite feature of the ground floor is undoubtedly the mural, affixed to the bigger section of the building. This image depicts Celebrimbor forging the Rings of Power, with another minifigure in the foreground. I imagine the second figure represents Annatar, Sauron's fair form which enables him to influence the Elves!
Frodo recovers from his injury in the bedroom upstairs, where he also receives Sting and Bilbo's mithril shirt shortly afterwards. Although the interior area is limited because of the steep roof, the wooden bed and bright green ottoman look splendid. Moreover, a chest is included and contains Bilbo's famous equipment, ready to pass to his nephew.
The mithril shirt is represented by a sticker on a 2x2 tile, which works surprisingly well. Sting is another of the weapons in the pack with Aragorn and Boromir's swords, featuring a textured grip and therefore improving upon the accessory produced in 2012. Like most of the weapons in the pack, two swords representing Sting are included.
Furthermore, the bedroom also includes Bilbo's writing desk, where he completes the Red Book of Westmarch, recounting his adventures. The quill in the inkwell looks great, while the desk is adorned with scrolls underneath. The teal-upholstered chair is neatly constructed and provides some additional colour, but the reddish brown frame looks odd, surrounded by dark orange and medium nougat furnishings.
Unfortunately, the Red Book of Westmarch is not actually red, instead featuring a reddish brown cover with a sticker. The book elements have never appeared in dark red before, but I think they should have done here. The removable upper section of the tower is welcome though, since the desk would otherwise be essentially inaccessible.
The rear wall of the bedroom displays another mural, recreating the image of Isildur preparing to slice the Ring from Sauron's finger. Sauron appears delightfully menacing in minifigure form and the attention to detail on this painting is outstanding, even including a blue flag that also appears on the original mural, shown when Aragorn and Boromir first meet. The frame looks lovely too.
The momentous Council of Elrond takes place in the courtyard outside Elrond's chambers, with an enormous tree overlooking the scene. The setting is immediately recognisable here and the use of colour is brilliant, as the gathered chairs are the only medium nougat features anywhere outside, ensuring their clear visibility.
Sam eavesdrops on the council's discussion and emerges from the undergrowth almost as soon as Frodo volunteers to take the Ring to Mordor. The designers have therefore hidden space for Sam behind some leaves and underneath the statues. No other functions are really included, so this seems strange, but the feature works perfectly and occupies an empty area.
The circular courtyard is constructed with slopes around its edge, yielding a smooth shape. The rocks immediately around this platform are essential to the design, as they reinforce what would otherwise be a thin and accordingly fragile structure. Fortunately though, there is no noticeable variation between the rocks supporting the platform and those around the whole of Rivendell.
Printed tiles surround the pedestal where the One Ring rests, reflecting the star-shaped pattern from the onscreen location. The pedestal also captures an accurate shape and comprises three 2x2 wall panels, which were only introduced with Minecraft sets in January. These elements are stacked to produce an interesting angular shape, complementing the floor pattern.
While perhaps unnecessary, the courtyard and accompanying tree are designed to be detached if you wish, revealing a simple frame and Sauron's sinister eye beneath! This is a fun reference to Frodo's painful vision when Gimli attempts to smash the One Ring, although there was ample space to include some flames or further detail surrounding the eye.
Official images have demonstrated that the Council of Elrond can be displayed separately from Rivendell, presumably for anyone seeking a smaller The Lord of the Rings display. Options are always welcome and the model does look impressive alone, but I am not convinced this feature was truly necessary. Rivendell appears decidedly peculiar without its focal location, after all.
Eight chairs surround the One Ring, with Elrond's more elaborate design in prime position. The seven smaller chairs are amazingly detailed though and accurately replicate those shown during the film, incorporating medium nougat sausages and ice lolly elements! Admittedly, the onscreen council is much busier, but eight seats are adequate for the essential characters to attend.
79006 The Council of Elrond infamously contains four minifigures, none of whom can actually sit on the provided seats. The designers have found a neat solution here, as Frodo's short legs can be swapped for headlight bricks with 1x1 plates underneath, while decorated 2x2 curved slopes replace the robes worn by Elrond and Gandalf. These minifigures therefore appear natural when seated, although starchy capes must be removed.
Personally, I think the council looks significantly better when integrated with the larger Rivendell environment, taking particular advantage of roots around the base of the towering tree. Reddish brown pieces are situated under the bridge, appearing to emanate from the tree and with ferns filling the space in between. Additionally, the seamless transition between the courtyard and the bridge is exceptional.
LEGO rarely produces trees of this scale, so the combination of various cylindrical parts around the trunk is unusual, but certainly successful. Even though the core of the tree trunk is relatively blocky, the roots introduce ample texture and the leaves are wonderfully bushy. These blend the traditional 6x5 limb element with smaller leaves, notably recalling the trees from 21338 A-Frame Cabin.
The steady transition between bright green, lime green and flame yellowish orange foliage looks gorgeous too, especially against the colourful roof. The model also includes a taller Cypress tree that exhibits completely different building techniques. I was uncertain about this tree in official images, but its upward-pointing leaves are superb, arranged around three-branch cross axles.
Among many interesting features, the roof tiles have attracted particular attention. Rows of sand blue, tan, nougat and sand green 1x1 tiles are laid diagonally across the roof, arranged to create repeated patterns. These correspond exactly with Rivendell's film appearances, with sign pieces flawlessly completing the roof slope. They have never appeared in sand green before, while the nougat 1x1 tiles are also new.
Like the patterned roof, the curved edge giving way to the courtyard beneath is another integral feature of Imladris' architecture. The ostentatious columns are familiar from the films too, making use of white scrollwork elements and even including cupcake cases! Their aqua colour choice is unexpected, but the cupcake cases partner with aqua 1x1 bricks at the base of each column.
The columns appear fragile, although some are surreptitiously reinforced using 1x1 round plates with bars, which connect them to the walls. A dark blue banner hangs behind the columns and resembles several from the films, featuring silver stars. Perhaps a couple more could have been included to balance the interior.
Without additional banners, the interior is surprisingly lacking in colour. Nevertheless, the layout reflects the movies and its muted colours are accurate too, compared with The Fellowship of the Ring. As mentioned earlier, the middle section of this building is quite shallow, so reaching inside to place the minifigures is agreeably easy.
The ground floor is luxuriously adorned with 69 printed tiles, matching those from the courtyard outside. This pattern looks fantastic and precisely reflects the onscreen location, with light bluish grey tiles framing the decorative centrepiece. Unfortunately, the star-shaped design overlaps the edge of the model, so finishes rather abruptly.
I like the stone columns sprouting from the tiled floor, with more candelabra and desks correctly distributed around the chamber. Each desk includes an inkwell, a candle and a map. One shows Sauron's fortress of Barad-dûr looming over Mordor, while the other displays rivers approaching a lake. Perhaps this map represents Nen Hithoel, where the Argonath is located.
Another desk includes a map covering the whole of Middle-earth, albeit with some geographical compromises. The foothills of the Shire are well-positioned and Rivendell looks good, but Minas Tirith has been transplanted along the White Mountains and Isengard has seemingly supplanted Barad-dûr in Mordor! I understand moving the icons around on such a small map, but Isengard's position seems like an error.
The legendary shards of Narsil are displayed upstairs, presented beneath a statue of an Elven princess. Certain features of the original statue are absent at this scale. However, the hexagonal plinth seems reasonably accurate and I like the dark blue elements, intended to recreate a fabric sheet under the shards of Narsil.
Remarkably, a unique accessory has been developed to represent Elendil's shattered blade and this weapon looks absolutely perfect. The distinctive hilt is instantly identifiable and the uneven break looks realistic too. Hopefully the reforged sword taken up by Aragorn, dubbed Andúril, will appear in any future The Lord of the Rings sets.
Two stickered paintings are mounted above the statue, taking inspiration from murals created by renowned Tolkien illustrator, Alan Lee. These artworks only appear very briefly onscreen and the first depicts Vingilot, the vessel which transports Eärendil and Elwing to Aman in the First Age. I love the tiny minifigures on board, although I have always found this portrayal of the famed ship rather underwhelming.
The second painting features Ost-in-Edhil, the capital city of Eregion and home of the previously depicted Elven smith, Celebrimbor. Once again, this image recreates Alan Lee's design from the film series and is beautifully detailed. The dark orange colour selected for the frames is effective too, clearly standing out against the grey stonework.
A staircase links the two floors and connects to another building outside. The golden balustrade is attractive, complementing the candelabra and an elaborate telescope, which is only shown for a few moments during the films. This assembly consists of an inverted candlestick, a pearl gold ring blade and a sextant, combining to render the source material quite faithfully.
The neighbouring structure retains the patterned roof from Elrond's chambers, although features different bands of colour. The columns underneath are absolutely stunning and I appreciate the continued integration of sand green pieces, which are ubiquitous across Rivendell. The archway looks superb, with a statuette and two undecorated birds creating a decorative frieze on top.
Sand green wheel arches form ornamental features between the outermost columns. The table inside is laden with lembas bread and salad, recalling Pippin's accessory. The whole structure is mounted on another circular base and angled in relation to the main building, further enhancing this version of Rivendell. After all, the town is constructed in harmony with nature, so avoids grid patterns altogether.
Despite its irregular bearing, steps give easy access to this building and another flight descends from the side. Tracing these steps leads to the stone bench where Frodo and Bilbo are reunited in The Fellowship of the Ring. The environment seems relatively bland though, lacking the lavish foliage and texture which dominates the front of this model.
Rivendell is idyllically positioned in a gorge of the River Bruinen, with certain buildings relatively isolated from the larger town. The designers have ingeniously replicated those rural areas of the settlement without having to expand the model excessively. Instead, a narrow stream separates the armoury and lone pavilion from Elrond's chambers, which works incredibly well.
Moreover, the stream provides an opportunity to include a humpback bridge, which are common across Imladris in the films. The rounded archway looks marvellous and occasional studs allow minifigures to stand on top. However, I expect some may wish to display the Fellowship crossing this bridge, in which case a few more studs were probably needed.
The river underneath is primarily constructed with trans-light blue tiles, covering teal plates. This colour combination yields a vibrant blue, which certainly suits Rivendell's clear waters. The white foam looks lovely as well, bubbling with particular ferocity under the waterfalls. Plants surround the stream and include the new fern element, 34 of which are scattered throughout the set.
Stone steps lead up to the pavilion or towards the armoury, where Andúril is forged. These stand out beside the dark tan rocks, while olive green pieces introduce further detail. Furthermore, the trees provide a nice backdrop for the scene, closely resembling examples from 21338 A-Frame Cabin. Their colourful leaves look magnificent and complement the neighbouring trees.
The pavilion is among the most impressive features of this model. Each column is connected to a Technic assembly under the base, providing them with surprising strength, given their slender proportions. The roof also requires reinforcement, so incorporates a Technic frame. These parts are primarily hidden behind curved slopes, although even the visible light bluish grey pieces are helpful in breaking up the pavilion's silhouette.
Additional scrollwork elements are combined with life rings to assemble the ornate dome, which is extraordinarily detailed. The tooth pieces clipped underneath are effective too, recreating the Elven pavilions from the films with far greater accuracy than I had anticipated. Another récamier delivers a splash of colour inside.
Medium nougat plates differentiate this area of the model, which is helpful because the armoury is situated lower in the valley onscreen, so appears darker. The continued greenery looks good and several mushrooms are placed around the shorter tree. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that their stems are actually glow-in-the-dark.
The forge appears briefly in The Return of the King and this design corresponds with the film, of course. The furnace is hollowed into the rock, with trans-orange flames inside. This would have been the ideal location for a light brick. The roots wrapped around the furnace look very realistic and the requisite anvil is included, with Aragorn's earlier Ranger sword representing Andúril.
An armoury is conveniently positioned beside the forge, furnished with weapons and equipment for sharpening the Elves' renowned blades. These are accessible from the back and rotating the model also reveals interesting details behind the waterfall, where a frog has taken up residence alongside several more mushrooms.
Removing the pavilion gives a better view of the interior. The functional grinding wheel is superb and the table features a 1x1 half circle tile, which presumably represents a whetstone. The two wooden racks store a selection of accessories, including a bow, two more pearl silver axes and four Elven swords.
The swords take inspiration from Hadhafang, an ancient blade wielded by Elrond during the Last Alliance of Elves and Men. Arwen later receives the sword, drawing it against the Nazgûl at the Ford of Bruinen. This accessory looks as accurate as others from the weapon pack, so captures the characteristic curvature of many weapons forged by the Elves.
Overall
A decade has passed since LEGO The Lord of the Rings concluded, only increasing anticipation for its seemingly inevitable return. Fortunately, 10316 The Lord of the Rings: Rivendell definitely satisfies expectations! The whole model is extraordinarily detailed and accurate when compared with the Peter Jackson films, skilfully balancing earthy colours with verdant foliage.
The tiled roofs look spectacular and the variety of architectural styles is appealing, with the white pavilion serving as an elegant counterpart to the main building. The unbroken path between the council courtyard and the armoury is beautiful too, following the contours of the landscape. Only the area around the bench seems rather lacking in detail, hidden behind the larger structures.
Of course, the minifigure selection is deserving of praise too. Fifteen characters are present and they are nicely portrayed, although I think a greater variety of Elven hair elements was probably needed. The price of £429.99, $499.99 or €499.99 is obviously substantial, albeit justified, in my opinion, given the tremendous quality of this design.
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We're going to build Rivendell! We're going to see the elves!
Amazing set, but its a huge price
This is a ridiculously fantastic set and definitely a day 1 buy - one question, is the set really as deep as the official measurements? After mocking it up in Studio it doesn’t come close to the 50cm depth - it would be great to know as I’m intending on displaying it on an IKEA Billy bookcase, 76cm wide by 37cm deep
Why do I do this to myself? I wasn't planning on buying this set due to the price, but then I read the review and get excited and now I must figure out a way to pay for it. I must own it. My precious...
@dunkandegg said:
"This is a ridiculously fantastic set and definitely a day 1 buy - one question, is the set really as deep as the official measurements? After mocking it up in Studio it doesn’t come close to the 50cm depth - it would be great to know as I’m intending on displaying it on an IKEA Billy bookcase, 76cm wide by 37cm deep"
When displayed with the main building facing directly forwards, the depth is 38cm. However, you can angle the model for a minimum depth of 35cm, so it should fit on your bookcase.
I have no idea how LEGO could have calculated the 50cm depth.
Chaper1 A long awaited review.
@CapnRex101 said:
"When displayed with the main building facing directly forwards, the depth is 38cm. However, you can angle the model for a minimum depth of 35cm, so it should fit on your bookcase.
I have no idea how LEGO could have calculated the 50cm depth."
The only thing I can think of is if it's 50cm when you take out the council area and display it separately in front, like in one of the box images.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @dunkandegg said:
"This is a ridiculously fantastic set and definitely a day 1 buy - one question, is the set really as deep as the official measurements? After mocking it up in Studio it doesn’t come close to the 50cm depth - it would be great to know as I’m intending on displaying it on an IKEA Billy bookcase, 76cm wide by 37cm deep"
When displayed with the main building facing directly forwards, the depth is 38cm. However, you can angle the model for a minimum depth of 35cm, so it should fit on your bookcase.
I have no idea how LEGO could have calculated the 50cm depth."
Thanks very much Capn! Brilliant review as always, can’t wait to get my hands on this set - the actual size was the only thing putting me off!
A gorgeous set, and an absolutely stunning display piece. Just a shame it's out of my price range.
could you show all the weapons included side by side? Thank you
Looks beautiful. But aligning all the 1x1 tiles for the roof must be a nightmare...
Great review, which makes me ever so slightly more tempted to buy this set. But £430 is just too expensive for what we are getting: half a Rivendell building and a mixed bag of figures. I'm sure those rich folk out there wouldn't mind splashing the cash for a slice of Imladris though.
Perhaps not the very best LEGO set ever made, with so many great contenders, but I would argue this is the most beautiful set they've ever done, stunning!
I know nothing at all about the Lord of the RIngs and the subject matter therefore does not interest me at all, but that is an awesome set, the construction techniques and detailing used are exceptional but it at a huge cost too...
If only I had the money, time, space and supporting wife then I would be getting this day 1!
If I had been allowed to only own one Lego set ever, it would have been this one.
From my point of view it has everything, pure perfection in my eyes.
can this same designer do Hyrule caste next as I need Hyrule done in this style D :
I'm not big LotR fan, so as much as I love the look and details, it's still IP I don't follow
it was a while since I saw a set that was such a beauty
Stunning set, but definitely one for a 'no bills month', rather than an 'energy and council tax month'. Looking forward to summer for a wishlist catch up!
@margulies said:
"Looks beautiful. But aligning all the 1x1 tiles for the roof must be a nightmare..."
45 degree angled tiles aren't really a problem. Just place roughly, one row at a time, then align by pressing a plate or a ruler against them.
Incredible. If I was ever going to shell out this much for a set, this has to be the one. I really hope Lego brings out some smaller sets too though.
Despite getting the set from LEGO themselves, I still have no idea how you beasts both build and review sets of this scale so quickly. Respect.
Incredible build. A little (much) out of my price range, but absolutely stunning.
I would buy the separated Council part with a few minifigs though, if it were a set. Please LEGO, make some smaller LotR sets again...
Honestly I think I like the PARTS included in this set more than the set itself. I've cooled somewhat on the LOTR trilogy since it was first released, so it's probably related to that, but this set doesn't really stir anything within me when I look at it.
No criticisms for the design or construction, though - whoever worked on this model appears to have done a top-board job.
Thanks for the review!
Subjectively, the set kind of looks like it's not minifig scale... It looks to me like it was designed for Belville figs or those large Technic figures. It seems, unnatural and too big for minifigs... It still is a piece of beauty, though.
LOTR AFOLs, enjoy it!
@CapnRex101: A speed-build on YouTube showed the builder using a plate to align the tiles on the roofs--is this shown in the manual or something that I should have known about some other way?
Wow! just.... WOW!!!!
Incredible set, easily a Day 1 purchase if money was no object. Sadly it is so hopefully there are some cheaper sets in the pipe line.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @dunkandegg said:
"This is a ridiculously fantastic set and definitely a day 1 buy - one question, is the set really as deep as the official measurements? After mocking it up in Studio it doesn’t come close to the 50cm depth - it would be great to know as I’m intending on displaying it on an IKEA Billy bookcase, 76cm wide by 37cm deep"
When displayed with the main building facing directly forwards, the depth is 38cm. However, you can angle the model for a minimum depth of 35cm, so it should fit on your bookcase.
I have no idea how LEGO could have calculated the 50cm depth."
Useful to know, thanks.
Was measuring out where I could possibly fit this thing and that 50cm was giving some issues. Was trying to work out how it could possibly be that deep. Was trying to work out if it was deceptively angled or something.
So many dual molded legs!
Many years down the road, I think this set will be on many peoples' "Damn, I wish I had picked this set up when it was available" lists.
What a beautifully detailed set, the designer really went all out. I'll get it eventually, but unfortunately it's been a tough start to the year, so it'll have to wait.
The question isn't "will I get it"
The question is "where did I put it once I do"
Looks fantastic! I have never spent $500, but if I were going to, this would be the set. Unfortunately I will not. Hopefully they make some smaller sets. I would be happy with the council section, or even a smaller set with Arwen, Aragorn, and Elrond with that beautiful pavilion, but I doubt they will be revisiting Rivendell.
In regards to the weapons, you have Boromir's sword, Gimli's axe, the ranger sword, sting, and the elven blades. No Glamdring, but I suppose that could be easily represented by the current long sword element. Are they missing any other key weapons besides a reforged Anduril? I can't think of any. The only other thing might be Uruk-hai shields since the swords are still in production. I suppose since they put 16 of the weapons in one bag, it won't show up in smaller sets. Hopefully they do a similar but smaller assortment for smaller sets.
@oukexergon said:
" @CapnRex101: A speed-build on YouTube showed the builder using a plate to align the tiles on the roofs--is this shown in the manual or something that I should have known about some other way?"
It's explicitly shown in the building manual for the set.
I asked my girlfriend, "If I buy this, will you leave me?" She said "no"!
Of course, I was going to buy it either way, so... But this way is better.
@sjr60 said:
"Stunning set, but definitely one for a 'no bills month', rather than an 'energy and council tax month'. Looking forward to summer for a wishlist catch up!
@margulies said:
"Looks beautiful. But aligning all the 1x1 tiles for the roof must be a nightmare..."
45 degree angled tiles aren't really a problem. Just place roughly, one row at a time, then align by pressing a plate or a ruler against them. "
Diagonal is definitely easier than square. I remember the MINI Cooper back in the day with its tiled seats and what a nightmare those were to align! I keep waiting for TLG or some enterprising third party to create a tool for this.
Arwen from 79006 looks way better and also more feminine.
It's very nice, but not what I was hoping for as a LOTR fan.
Some aspects of the set are excellent; the courtyard is close to perfect, the landscaping is great, and the pavilion is fantastic. But other areas just don't work for me. Though the interior sub-builds (e.g. beds) look nice enough, the interior in general looks like an afterthought. The left section with the tower seems largely superfluous except to create some visual balance for the right side. The roof, while interesting from a LEGO perspective, is too great a departure from its onscreen appearance and far too visually dominant. The smaller trees in the right section are sparse to the point of looking bad. Overall, it just feels inconsistent. Some parts seem almost too detailed, while others seem like they were simplified from a more detailed initial design. Perhaps I'm being too critical, but this is a $500 USD set. For such cost, I expect something close to flawless, and this is not.
I would have much preferred a smaller diorama in the $250-$300 USD range, focused on the courtyard and its immediate surroundings. As is, the set feels torn between display piece and playset, and in my opinion succeeds at neither.
That one random Elf is Figwit and you can't convince me otherwise
Amazingly detailed review, worthy of this incredible set. Thanks!
How many of the 6,000+ parts are comprised of 1x1 tiles?
An absolutely beautiful set, although a bit too expensive for this Hobbit... I'm looking forward to seeing it in the flesh the next time I visit my local Lego Store.
@margulies said:
"Looks beautiful. But aligning all the 1x1 tiles for the roof must be a nightmare..."
My LEGO OCD is aching to get its hands on those tiles!!!
Absolutely stoked for this set. Not felt this giddy about a Lego set in ages
Absolutely amazing set. Well done, Lego.
It's a lovely display-piece, and I imagine it's very rewarding for die-hard LOTR-fans. I adore this colour-blocking, and especially the details in the filigree. Kind of a bummer that the trees next to that gazebo look so rushed and wonky. If I were to buy this set, I'd probably rebuild those trees into something better.
But dang, man. I don't even want to spend 500 dubloons on a Marvel- or a Castle-set, and I'm a big fan of those. I'm a casual LOTR-fan at best, so this set and its price-tag just aren't for me. It's lovely, but I'm content to just enjoy the reviews.
Is the new elvish hairpiece hard like the standard minifigure hairpiece or the soft doll type material?
@merman said:
"How many of the 6,000+ parts are comprised of 1x1 tiles?"
Probably less than 10%. I counted the tiles on the roof sections when photos were first released; there are ~450. I see at least ~50 others elsewhere in the build.
What an outstanding and thorough review. I think set of the year (and possibly decade and century) is now a forgone conclusion. Believe it or not, when my wife saw this set, she asked, "We're getting it, right?" I told her, "Sure, but during double points or when there's an irresistible GWP."
That's a wonderful review - well done!
I love the old stone tower best.
I just could not spend that much money on LEGO & still be required to put stickers on - the pressure to get them right... No, I love it but I don't need it. Might watch the films again though, and dig out the only Rings set I have (Shelob Attacks) and re-build it.
Thorough review, although I must point out you sadly missed one important detail. When the hobbits are put in the headlight bricks for their seated positions, the top studs at the back form hilarious butt cheeks. XD
Not for me, but I'm sure LOTR fans will be all over it. I really like the Flora designs on this set, and the statue minifigures.
I'm not sure what I think of the printed floor tiles. It feels a bit "cheating" and not pure Lego bricks design, which is nice to look at but not impressive as a building technic.
One does not simply read this review in one sitting.
It is a beautiful set.
However, at 500€, it's overpriced.
There are a ton of small pieces hiking up the numbers (so ppp isn't a good measurement), the instructions - if done in the recent white background style - look like garbage and, above all, the use of any stickers at this price point is inadmissible.
I will definitely buy this set.
But I highly highly doubt it'll be on release day. I just don't see a set worthy of the full 500€ here.
Had they made it a much larger, micro-scale build, I would probably be more compelled to buy it day 1.
I can see that Gimli’s beard is shorter between the braids, but I don’t see from these photos why the helmet had to change to fit over the new beard, since the previous version had to do the same thing with the old beard.
That is clearly Hypnotoad’s eye under the council seating.
If all the weapons are grouped in one bag, likely this is why such variety is possible. As with the Batman theme, SW Clonetroopers, Friends, and a few other instances, many parts can be combined on one tool to produce a pack of different items that, combined, count as one element for inventory purposes.
@ACubeInABox said:
"That one random Elf is Figwit and you can't convince me otherwise"
Totally agree, Figwit is definitely in this set :)
Beautiful set, if a touch beyond immediate purchase. Though I do have some qualms with it. The Red Book not being red is obviously a touch disappointing. Paintings are a touch weird in their inclusion, don't seem like something the elves would have hung.
But my major complaint is that presence of the Eye of Sauron. Typically it was used as an analogy for his reach and perception, but Rivendell should be the one place his darkness would not touch. Obviously, it's here because of that little frame in the movie, but I am still annoyed by it, as minor a detail as it is. Least it would be an easy mod.
This is certainly very tempting indeed. For better or worse, the initial offer with the included Brickheadz does not interest me in the slightest, so I'll probably wait for a better GWP.
Probably.
So with them producing a new item for Narsil, and the minifigure version of Sauron appearing in the poster, anyone else think we're going to get a Last Battle set in the future, with Isildur and Sauron?
The flaw should have been - Figures looks ok, besides the Hobbits, they are looking amazing
Amazing set!
I just wish Lego would do a similarly sized and detailed Jedi Temple with 15 minifigs!
@PhantomBricks said:
"In regards to the weapons, you have Boromir's sword, Gimli's axe, the ranger sword, sting, and the elven blades. No Glamdring, but I suppose that could be easily represented by the current long sword element. Are they missing any other key weapons besides a reforged Anduril? I can't think of any. The only other thing might be Uruk-hai shields since the swords are still in production. I suppose since they put 16 of the weapons in one bag, it won't show up in smaller sets. Hopefully they do a similar but smaller assortment for smaller sets."
If LEGO were to produce Minas Tirith in the future, which I think would be very likely if Rivendell is successful, I would include a new pack containing the following:
Andúril x2
Glamdring x2
Rohan Sword x4 (representing Herugrim, Gúthwinë and Eowyn's sword)
Barrow Blade x4
Morgul Blade x2
Witch King's Flail x2
@merman said:
"How many of the 6,000+ parts are comprised of 1x1 tiles?"
There are 486 1x1 tiles and 84 close equivalents, like 1x1 quarter circle tiles etc.
@Rimefang said:
"One does not simply read this review in one sitting. "
Not with 10,000 men could you do this; it is folly...
Truly excellent review, CapnRex! Especially when you know LOTR geekdom (guilty, myself included) was ready to pounce on missed details!
"Very occasional lapses in detail"
Wha? Oh boy, lol.
Looks lovely. I hope this is LEGO re-entering the LoTR theme with a bang, and that this is not as far as it goes or indicative of the size of future releases. Some of the weapons are new, and I doubt they would have created new molds just to use them in one set.
@Shadowcloner said:
"Beautiful set, if a touch beyond immediate purchase. Though I do have some qualms with it. The Red Book not being red is obviously a touch disappointing. Paintings are a touch weird in their inclusion, don't seem like something the elves would have hung.
But my major complaint is that presence of the Eye of Sauron. Typically it was used as an analogy for his reach and perception, but Rivendell should be the one place his darkness would not touch. Obviously, it's here because of that little frame in the movie, but I am still annoyed by it, as minor a detail as it is. Least it would be an easy mod. "
In fairness, it was there before.
https://brickset.com/article/90575/classic-review-79006-the-council-of-elrond
@merman
"How many of the 6,000+ parts are comprised of 1x1 tiles?"
About 550.
So about another 5,450+ regular parts that also include all new elements, recolored parts, printed tiles and 21 minifigs (including the statue figures).
Amazing set, too bad the last Middle Earth entry I’ve seen is Rings of Power so that boring Prime Video slog is what I think of first when I see this. A pity.
Looks like a good, interesting build. I still think the end result looks a bit boring. Would make a nice city park I spose.
@djcbs said:
"It is a beautiful set.
However, at 500€, it's overpriced.
There are a ton of small pieces hiking up the numbers (so ppp isn't a good measurement), the instructions - if done in the recent white background style - look like garbage and, above all, the use of any stickers at this price point is inadmissible.
I will definitely buy this set.
But I highly highly doubt it'll be on release day. I just don't see a set worthy of the full 500€ here.
Had they made it a much larger, micro-scale build, I would probably be more compelled to buy it day 1."
"I will definitely buy this set." :)
Well, it's your choice but being so critical of it, by buying it you're just telling them to continue pricing these sets like that, use lots of stickers and same instructions design. The only thing that matters is if you'll buy it or not. You can buy it while being upset, they don't care about as they still got your money.
you should have positioned Legolas and Gandalf differently. It looks like Legolas is about to shoot Gandalf in the back!
@ozbrickcreator said:
"you should have positioned Legolas and Gandalf differently. It looks like Legolas is about to shoot Gandalf in the back!"
That’s one way to win a contest.
LOTR was the theme that brought me out of my dark ages and while I have been hoping for a return for years, I can’t help but be somewhat disappointed by this. It’s pretty enough but I would have preferred a Minas Tirith, an expanded mines of Moria or a Bridge of Khazad-Dum to this. I guess that’s money save for the next Ninjago City expansion.
Truly TRULY one of the finest sets ever offered by LEGO. Beautiful, top to bottom, with no real styling error(s) to take away from the majesty of the setting. A tad peculiar on the secondary minifigure choices IMHO. Perhaps a pair of elves on the journey esorting Arwen (and a horse for her to be astride on) to the boat to Valinor would have been a bit more unique? But that's a ridiculously small quibble.
LEGO really has done a masterful job of this set. The price, while very high, reflects that 'upper crust' collectability and beauty of the set. Hard to argue against it even though it is beyond my budget.
A beautiful set. But it's basically a very large display piece and one that doesn't look worth the $500 cost.
@PurpleDave said:
"That is clearly Hypnotoad’s eye under the council seating."
All glory.
Definitely beautiful! I really like the palette of the set, it's colorful with a happy vibe but without being cartoony and over the top. Earthy but not muted. I think there are generally more and more greenery making its way into sets lately, and I love that. Would like to see even more, so I hope the trend continues. Guess the botanical line is somewhat helping out with that too.
I don't have an unlimited budget, so these huge sets are not a first day buy for me. Still saving up for the Lion Knights Castle for example, but Rivendell is now on the whish list. Remains to be seen how long it will be available, and if it will ever be available somewhere at any discount. Luckily, I'm not in a hurry. I got loads of other stuff to catch up on first. That's the benefit of not buying everything as soon as it shows up, I guess, whether it's by choice or necessity.
I`m in AWE .....
Now let`s just wait for a suitable GWP, and i`ll buy it.
I will mod this into an exclusive Yacht Club by the dock :)
Gorgeous set! And thank you for teaching me a new word: "récamier". I would probably call it a day bed.
A wonderful set, not for me but an amazing set.
I am really torn. What a beautiful set.
The most I have ever spent so far on a LEGO set was the 6991 monorail ($450 w/ tax and shipping, before the prices went quite insane).
I am a big, big fan of LOTR, so I might eventually buy it but I am struggling with display space already. And this thing needs its own shelf!
I had to read this in three installments. Hope the Lego Store has this out on display so I can get to see it.
Thanks for the great review. Almost felt like I was actually seeing it.
@oukexergon said:
" @CapnRex101: A speed-build on YouTube showed the builder using a plate to align the tiles on the roofs--is this shown in the manual or something that I should have known about some other way?"
I was actually going to ask what he used as a straightedge, since there's absolutely no way anyone managed to precisely line up all those diagonal tiles by hand. And this is a handy trick to know for any instances where you have to line up a bunch of 1x1 square bricks, plates, or tiles. I've done it several times in the past for letter tiles. I find it's easiest to manage if you use a 1x8 tile placed upside-down. The smooth tile surface won't catch on the surrounding studs, and it's a small and manageable piece to work with, while providing a long edge that can force several tiles into alignment simultaneously.
A beautiful set, indeed. And certainly evocative of the original location built in the NZ bush.
For me, it will be a 'must buy' set which I will populate with a few extra personalised minifigures representing my family as we overlook the Council and other attendees.
@Shadowcloner:
From what I recall of the books, only Tom Bombadil's domain is impervious to Sauron's influence. They could have theoretically just left the Ringin his home, and it would have been perfectly safe...assuming he didn't lose track of it because he was disinterested. Galadriel felt the temptation to use the Ring, though she was able to resist. I've never heard anything that suggests Rivendell would be any more powerful than Lothlorien in that regard. Elrond is even fearful of taking the Ring to hide it. I don't remember if they tried to destroy the Ring at this time in the books, but I think Gandalf did recite the Black Speech written within the Ring.
It's a beautiful set but ... is it just me or is Aragorn's fly down?
I'm not a Lord of the Rings fan, but this set is simply AMAZING! One of the best 10 sets ever! Bravo LEGO!
Love this, but display, and or storage space, & price makes it a pass for me. But still a awesome set.
@CapnRex101:
Peregrin Took
Peregrine Falcon
@Zordboy said:
"It's a beautiful set but ... is it just me or is Aragorn's fly down?"
And Legolas is wearing his shorts on the outside of his pants.
Far from a perfect fit, but I figured the helmet from Reinhardt 75973 could be used as a rough approximation of Sauron's head-piece (in minifig form). Mini Helmet, No. 234 (6254168|49484).
Quite expensive!...
I'll be passing on this set, as that's a lot of money and I would need to clear a lot of space, but I quite enjoyed the review. For one thing, it taught me a new word: récamier! I love the features and the minifigures. Speaking of which, am I the only one who thinks Bilbo looks like Doc Brown?
@ecleme11 said:
"So with them producing a new item for Narsil, and the minifigure version of Sauron appearing in the poster, anyone else think we're going to get a Last Battle set in the future, with Isildur and Sauron?"
I'll be disappointed if we don't get them as minifigs at the very least. A polybag like 5000202 would be enough for me.
@arathemis said:
"I`m in AWE .....
Now let`s just wait for a suitable GWP, and i`ll buy it."
Reportedly, if VIPs buy it within the first couple days it's available to them, they'll get a Frodo and Gollum brickheadz pack.
@Fedora_Flipping said:
" @arathemis said:
"I`m in AWE .....
Now let`s just wait for a suitable GWP, and i`ll buy it."
Reportedly, if VIPs buy it within the first couple days it's available to them, they'll get a Frodo and Gollum brickheadz pack."
I said suitable. Something like the forestemen hideout from last year. BH does not interest me one bit
Excellent review. The map details are strange. I don't think it would be bad to simplify the map but Orthanc inside of Mordor does look weird.
I'll definitely be getting this set but the Brickheadz GWP is not cutting it for me so I'm not in a rush to order.
Wow, the architectural details are amazing. Absolutely beautiful.
After seeing the floor in this set, a Jedi Council set is a must!! Master builder set with most/ all members of the council! It would be a wet dream for me.
That's Minas Morgul depicted on the map, not Orthanc.
This set is a marvel to look at. Impressive colors, details, techniques, clever parts usage (the chairs of the council are a delight to the eye... And to the stomach for Hobbits I guess ^^), the whole assembly is... A marvel to look at. And will stay so, as it is desperately far too expensive for me to get it. As a long time LOTR aficionado, it's so hard to see this beauty of a set, knowing that it's not for me. Very frustrating. Excellent review, excellent pictures, thank you.
Sweet Jesus - that’s the good stuff.
hmmmmm...... this set is..... not an usual LEGO set.... this is an artwork! never seen so many fanstic details, the floor, the tower with all those gray minifigures, the ROOF!!!!!! and most of all - the pavillon!
so let me think about what to sell next to get the money fo this set.... my car? my dvd or record collection? some LEGO sets?
a must have - no doubt about is!
It`s beautiful, but it can wait.
I don't know if I should be thankful or not: I am now 100% convinced to buy this. I thank you, but my wallet is more fearful than Pippen when he woke up every orc in Moria at once.
I watched the first movie, I watched the amazon series, without any real understanding of it, or recognising the appeal, but this is such a beautiful set, that the price is the only thing stopping me from getting it.
When I brought the Colosseum, it took me ages to earn that money back, because I'm a student and work for a non-profit. I only have savings and surveys. Depending on others to get sets like this have you over a barrel, they expect you to bend over backwards, you feel guilt, you're made to feel guilt and gratitude all the time, it almost taints the set.
I am really tempted by it, but I hear rumours of what's coming this year, and I want them confirmed before I surrender.
Then again I might just buy it anyway.
It's kind of unforgivable that they re-used existing faces for Legolas and Arwen and a torso for Glóin in this $500 set
@arathemis said:
" @Fedora_Flipping said:
" @arathemis said:
"I`m in AWE .....
Now let`s just wait for a suitable GWP, and i`ll buy it."
Reportedly, if VIPs buy it within the first couple days it's available to them, they'll get a Frodo and Gollum brickheadz pack."
I said suitable. Something like the forestemen hideout from last year. BH does not interest me one bit"
Agreed. If they had an exclusive, great GWP, I'd buy it on day one. A BH GWP makes me hit the snooze button, and wait for another day.
@bananaworld said:
"
@PurpleDave said:
"That is clearly Hypnotoad’s eye under the council seating."
All glory.
"
You are technically correct. The BEST kind of correct!
Only a cool GWP or discount will make me buy this set..... unless.... (droning buzzzzzz).... perhaps I will buy it, maybe two, in fact.....
@PurpleDave said:
" @CapnRex101 :
Peregrin Took
Peregrine Falcon"
Thank you; corrected.
@darkstonegrey said:
"That's Minas Morgul depicted on the map, not Orthanc."
I realise its location suggests Minas Morgul, but I know it is supposed to be Orthanc because a pre-release iteration of this set was shown at Fan Media Days last September. The graphics were not finalised and the map sticker was even more chaotic. The geographical issues were discussed and Orthanc appearing in western Mordor was specifically mentioned.
As ever if you bought two and mirrored one to make one large display this would be amazing.
@daniellesa
I highly recommend watching the rest of the LOTR films, they get better as they go along. More cinematic experiences than adaptations of the books (which I also love).
@dunkandegg said:
"This is a ridiculously fantastic set and definitely a day 1 buy - one question, is the set really as deep as the official measurements? After mocking it up in Studio it doesn’t come close to the 50cm depth - it would be great to know as I’m intending on displaying it on an IKEA Billy bookcase, 76cm wide by 37cm deep"
They make a 37cm deep version of that bookcase too?!?! Can't find other than 28 cm depth online..
@darkstonegrey:
I see this set at the top of the big map, Gondor below that, Barad-Dur on the far right, and Orthanc, which looks like a chess room, in the middle. I don’t see an icon representing Minas Morgul anywhere. Remember, this is licensed from the Peter Jackson films, not the books, so everything has to be based on what we saw in the films.
@waltair:
Remember, you can only sell one kidney before you’re in a real bind.
Overall, I’m very impressed and I’m sure that I will scrape together the cash to buy this (at some point…).
There are a few things that feel like missed opportunities here:
First, once again, why on Earth is Gandalf’s hat not blue? His hat is clearly described as blue in the source material and it’s definitely blue in the movies too, with the slightly more muted, faded colour undoubtedly being best represented in Lego by the sand blue. This would have been a good upgrade for Gandalf relative to the original LotR minifig. Oh well, Bricklink is still available but that really shouldn’t be necessary.
Agree with everyone else who feels that there ought to have been more than one type of elf hair piece. There were several made for the previous LotR sets and some of those would have been perfectly suited for re-use here. On balance, I actually prefer the more streamlined look of the previous version of the “standard” elf hair piece with ears; this new one feels just a little too bulky to me.
I think much the same can also be said for some of the head prints. The original Legolas face may have been somewhat stylised but it worked and the use of several generic faces in this set feels like a cop-out. I understand that the old prints were out of production and they probably shaved a little off the costs by incorporating some parts already in production but it definitely feels like a missed opportunity.
Not having a fully re-forged Anduril as well as the hilt shard of Narsil (as cool as it genuinely is!) also feels like a miss in a set this expensive. Admittedly that’s more for the books than the movies at this point in the story but we can only hope that the fully restored version of this sword appears in LotR sets yet to come… and the same for Gandalf’s Glamdring.
I’m aware, however, that I’m actually just being very picky here, although I do feel that’s somewhat justified given the very high price point. That said, it really is a truly blockbuster set and I already have plans for how to populate it with a mixture of both the new minifigs and a good selection of those from the original LotR sets. Especially the elves…
For those of you who are sad about Glamdring, the current Lego swords in sets like the Medieval Blacksmith look very much like Glamdring. That’s what I’ve been using.
This masterpiece by Tolkien deserves a set that does justice to this epic story - and this is it. Without a doubt, a day one purchase.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @CapnRex101 :
Peregrin Took
Peregrine Falcon"
Thank you; corrected.
@darkstonegrey said:
"That's Minas Morgul depicted on the map, not Orthanc."
I realise its location suggests Minas Morgul, but I know it is supposed to be Orthanc because a pre-release iteration of this set was shown at Fan Media Days last September. The graphics were not finalised and the map sticker was even more chaotic. The geographical issues were discussed and Orthanc appearing in western Mordor was specifically mentioned."
Mentioning this bit of info in the review would have been helpful for those of use who were not privy to that FMD panel discussion.
It begs the question then if that's truly meant to represent Orthanc why did it not get placed better after being called out at that preliminary stage? For me it will represent Minas Morgul as that tower icon at that location on the map fits best with traditional Middle Earth maps regardless of what TLG intended or what other pedants pontificate about movie license accuracy.
@nejakdivne said:
" @dunkandegg said:
"This is a ridiculously fantastic set and definitely a day 1 buy - one question, is the set really as deep as the official measurements? After mocking it up in Studio it doesn’t come close to the 50cm depth - it would be great to know as I’m intending on displaying it on an IKEA Billy bookcase, 76cm wide by 37cm deep"
They make a 37cm deep version of that bookcase too?!?! Can't find other than 28 cm depth online.."
Not in production anymore. So many great Lego-storing IKEA furniture have been put to sleep :(
Having totally agreed with all of the praise, I do wish Lego would send out minor updates as they occasionally do with grievous errors.
Being able to get a new sticker with an updated map, for example, would go a long way to earn goodwill with customers who buy very expensive sets.
As mentioned in the review, Bilbo's book not being red is another unforced error in my opinion. I love the set but it’s annoying when a few minor details prevent a “perfect” score. My opinion of course.
@HOBBES said:
"Far from a perfect fit, but I figured the helmet from Reinhardt 75973 could be used as a rough approximation of Sauron's head-piece (in minifig form). Mini Helmet, No. 234 (6254168|49484).
Quite expensive!..."
That’s what I did! Back then, the piece wasn’t terribly expensive. My Sauron: https://brickshelf.com/gallery/AmperZand/Fantasy/sauron_lego_w.jpg
@Zordboy said:
"It's a beautiful set but ... is it just me or is Aragorn's fly down?"
One does not simply walk around with one’s fly down. Not with 10,000 men could you do this. It is folly!
I'm no LOTR fan by far, mainly because I have never watched any of the movies but this set seems to have an amazing minifigure selection and a fabulous design considering the $500 price point. Lego seems to have made this set well, because it reminds me of many great MOCs I have seen.
If I stop eating and sell my blood, I could justify buying it regardless of how expensive it is.
There is no way for me to justify that price with stickers.
No sale
@jamie75 said:
"After seeing the floor in this set, a Jedi Council set is a must!! Master builder set with most/ all members of the council! It would be a wet dream for me. "
I don't buy SW sets (usually) but I would buy that. Not a wet dream for me but a quick and easy way to get all the Jedi without having to buy tons of (sometimes) obscure sets. I second that.
I'm not a huge LOTR fan so I can pass, but even so it was a hard decision. The entire build looks amazing from every angle, so rich in details that I might even download the instructions to have a look at the building techniques for use in my own Star Wars MOCs. And so many minifigures, all perfectly updated! I think Arwen deserved her own hairpiece though, currently it looks like she's balding at the front.
Great review!
@SinKiller_Nick said:
"Amazing set!
I just wish Lego would do a similarly sized and detailed Jedi Temple with 15 minifigs!"
This ^^^
If LEGO made this set I would definitely buy it on release, if it costs under $1500 AUD.
What minifigures would people want in it?
Personally I'd just want a new Plo Koon, Adi Gallia and maybe a couple of Padawans.
@elangab said:
" @djcbs said:
"It is a beautiful set.
However, at 500€, it's overpriced.
There are a ton of small pieces hiking up the numbers (so ppp isn't a good measurement), the instructions - if done in the recent white background style - look like garbage and, above all, the use of any stickers at this price point is inadmissible.
I will definitely buy this set.
But I highly highly doubt it'll be on release day. I just don't see a set worthy of the full 500€ here.
Had they made it a much larger, micro-scale build, I would probably be more compelled to buy it day 1."
"I will definitely buy this set." :)
Well, it's your choice but being so critical of it, by buying it you're just telling them to continue pricing these sets like that, use lots of stickers and same instructions design. The only thing that matters is if you'll buy it or not. You can buy it while being upset, they don't care about as they still got your money."
Yes I am aware of that.
Which is why I'm not buying it day one. I will wait for it to show up somewhere else with a discount.
"Don't buy it to send a message" would be a good thing to do...IF LEGO was remotely interested in hearing what their customers like and want or why they didn't buy a certain set.
They're not. LEGO talks a big game but they're hypocrites. They will do what they want, when they want, and they will not change a thing as a result of a set flopping in sales.
@nejakdivne said:
" @dunkandegg said:
"This is a ridiculously fantastic set and definitely a day 1 buy - one question, is the set really as deep as the official measurements? After mocking it up in Studio it doesn’t come close to the 50cm depth - it would be great to know as I’m intending on displaying it on an IKEA Billy bookcase, 76cm wide by 37cm deep"
They make a 37cm deep version of that bookcase too?!?! Can't find other than 28 cm depth online.."
Technically it's a 40cm deep version (but 37cm is the actual space available on the shelf) - still seems to be available direct from IKEA here in the UK
I think I'll bricklink the Cypress tree for my city.
Stickers are NOT acceptable!
They print complex forms like the figures as if there is no tomorrow but a couple of flat pieces in a 500 bucks set that is meant to be a show piece is too much to bother. Hell no, it's disrespectful to the customer. There are non LEGO brands who print the hell out of their sets and they do a great job for an even lower price.
@The1RealmShifter:
And Sting (either version) is a great substitute for the sword Wonder Woman uses in the Gal Gadot films (certainly much better than the gladius).
@darkstonegrey:
You know, I can’t even remember if they show the entire tower at Minas Morgul in the film. Attention is largely focused on the city walls (which look like a sea urchin made sweet, sweet love to a fairly standard bear trap). I had to look up images of what the filming model looked like, but that tower terminates with a flared platform that looks like it has a siege tower perched on top. It sorta looks like one of the Easter Island Moai statues that has a hat.
Also, I gotta ask this because you’ve genuinely piqued my curiosity. “Er Mer Gerd, using facts!” seems like an even weaker argument than “Er Mer Gerd, making typos!” Has that ever resulted in anyone conceding that you were right? I mean, call it Bag End, if you feel like it, but that silhouette is a dead ringer for Peter Jackson’s Orthanc.
@OttoT:
Prints on minifigs is why they have to put stickers on basic parts. Or rather, stickers on basic parts allow them to use prints on minifigs.
Will buy this day one! But gonna swap out Arwens head and hairpiece with those from 79006.
wow, everywhere you look it is gorgeous
@Torrent_Studios said:
" @SinKiller_Nick said:
"Amazing set!
I just wish Lego would do a similarly sized and detailed Jedi Temple with 15 minifigs!"
This ^^^
If LEGO made this set I would definitely buy it on release, if it costs under $1500 AUD.
What minifigures would people want in it?
Personally I'd just want a new Plo Koon, Adi Gallia and maybe a couple of Padawans. "
There are 12 council members. I would add two temple guards and Jocasta Nu for the figure lineup. If it wasn't going to be the full council, I would keep the temple guards and Jocasta Nu, as well as Plo Koon, Shaak Ti, Agen Kolar, Adi Galia, Kit Fisto, Saessee Tiin, and Oppo Ranciss from the council. I would also add Ahsoka and the younglings that she teaches which are Gungi, Ganodi, Katooni, Zat, Pedro, and Byph. Although I doubt they would do the younglings since some of them are the same species as council members(Zat and Katooni), and they likely aren't popular enough. If I were to maintain a 15 minifig limit, I would cut from the previous list Kit Fisto and Plo Koon since their popularity will likely get them in a set at some point no matter what. Realistically, it would contain Yoda, Windu, Anakin, Obi wan, maybe Ahsoka, popular council members like Plo Koon and Kit Fisto, and hopefully a few temple guards.
Anyway, that's my rambling answer.
@PhantomBricks:
Yeah, gotta include Jocasta Nu. If she’s not in a set, then she doesn’t exist.
@PurpleDave said:
" @PhantomBricks:
Yeah, gotta include Jocasta Nu. If she’s not in a set, then she doesn’t exist."
Until she is made, the archives will always be incomplete...
@PhantomBricks said:
" @Torrent_Studios said:
" @SinKiller_Nick said:
"Amazing set!
I just wish Lego would do a similarly sized and detailed Jedi Temple with 15 minifigs!"
This ^^^
If LEGO made this set I would definitely buy it on release, if it costs under $1500 AUD.
What minifigures would people want in it?
Personally I'd just want a new Plo Koon, Adi Gallia and maybe a couple of Padawans. "
There are 12 council members. I would add two temple guards and Jocasta Nu for the figure lineup. If it wasn't going to be the full council, I would keep the temple guards and Jocasta Nu, as well as Plo Koon, Shaak Ti, Agen Kolar, Adi Galia, Kit Fisto, Saessee Tiin, and Oppo Ranciss from the council. I would also add Ahsoka and the younglings that she teaches which are Gungi, Ganodi, Katooni, Zat, Pedro, and Byph. Although I doubt they would do the younglings since some of them are the same species as council members(Zat and Katooni), and they likely aren't popular enough. If I were to maintain a 15 minifig limit, I would cut from the previous list Kit Fisto and Plo Koon since their popularity will likely get them in a set at some point no matter what. Realistically, it would contain Yoda, Windu, Anakin, Obi wan, maybe Ahsoka, popular council members like Plo Koon and Kit Fisto, and hopefully a few temple guards.
Anyway, that's my rambling answer. "
I feel like even only 15 figures would be pushing the limit of LEGO Star Wars a little bit, but yeah, I agree with your selections! I definitely just want a modern Plo Koon. Also forgot about the Temple Guards, definitely would want at least 2.
They could also design the Jedi Archives and include Tera Sinube and Jocasta Nu (so we can re-enact the Grand Inquisitor fighting her in the library), and I would also want at least Gungi (since they could theoretically reuse him for Bad Batch sets)
@Torrent_Studios:
The two Death Star playsets had around 20 minifigs each.
@Torrent_Studios said:
[I feel like even only 15 figures would be pushing the limit of LEGO Star Wars a little bit, but yeah, I agree with your selections! I definitely just want a modern Plo Koon. Also forgot about the Temple Guards, definitely would want at least 2.
They could also design the Jedi Archives and include Tera Sinube and Jocasta Nu (so we can re-enact the Grand Inquisitor fighting her in the library), and I would also want at least Gungi (since they could theoretically reuse him for Bad Batch sets)]]
This would fall under MBS so 15 figures isn't too much of a stretch. Cloud City had 19 and Mos Eisley has 21 figures. My hope is that they release Plo Koon and Wolfpack in a similar set to Windu's 187th. They could also do that with Aayla and the 327th.
I assume that fight is from the comics? I have no recollection of that. I hope we get Gungi, but we probably won't know until next year's wave. I just hope they have a lower priced Bad Batch set I actually like.
It is a lovely set, but I was in the Leicester Square LEGO store yesterday and they had one made up and guarded by a member of staff, but you were allowed to touch and examine! I thought the set was beautiful, but (and this may be a unpopular thing to say!) I thought it was a little underwhelming and small!
The details are great, and I don't know if it looked so small made up in a LEGO store amongst so many other sets, but I thought it overpriced for what was in front of me? I'm not a great LOTR fan, which some might say cloud my judgement, but although the minifigs (the statues are brilliant) and little details are great, it wasn't a purchase for me I'm afraid.
And stickers on such an expensive set should be illegal :)
@AndyPol:
Given the level of detail, the stated dimensions actually sound a bit larger than I was expecting.
I am a little disappointed that the cypress wasn't placed up to the level of the gazebo.
This could have been an official Cypress Hill set.
@PhantomBricks said:
" @Torrent_Studios said:
"I feel like even only 15 figures would be pushing the limit of LEGO Star Wars a little bit, but yeah, I agree with your selections! I definitely just want a modern Plo Koon. Also forgot about the Temple Guards, definitely would want at least 2.
They could also design the Jedi Archives and include Tera Sinube and Jocasta Nu (so we can re-enact the Grand Inquisitor fighting her in the library), and I would also want at least Gungi (since they could theoretically reuse him for Bad Batch sets)"
This would fall under MBS so 15 figures isn't too much of a stretch. Cloud City had 19 and Mos Eisley has 21 figures. My hope is that they release Plo Koon and Wolfpack in a similar set to Windu's 187th. They could also do that with Aayla and the 327th.
I assume that fight is from the comics? I have no recollection of that. I hope we get Gungi, but we probably won't know until next year's wave. I just hope they have a lower priced Bad Batch set I actually like."
Oh right, I forgot that LEGO can be generous sometimes with figures in some Star Wars sets.
I also hope for something along the lines of the Republic Fighter Tank for different legions, but the problem here is that LEGO will eventually run out of models in similar scale to the Tank. If they made smaller models, those would probably be around the size of a Battle Pack, and we know how 75206 Jedi and Clone Troopers Battle Pack was received, on the basis that there were not one, but two named characters in a battle pack.
The only things I can sort of see being made similarly to the Tank would be a Swamp Speeder, Hailfire Droid, Tank Droid or a Homing Spider Droid. (notice how I ran out of Republic vehicles lol). For clone legions I'd like the requisite 104th and 327th, as well as Galactic Marines.
And yes, the duel between Jocasta Nu and the Grand Inquisitor is from a canon comic. Jocasta was overpowered and would have been defeated had Vader not interfered, having been instructed to bring her in alive. It's quite an interesting comic run, you could probably find more information on Jocasta's Wookieepedia page.
@Torrent_Studios said:
"Oh right, I forgot that LEGO can be generous sometimes with figures in some Star Wars sets.
I also hope for something along the lines of the Republic Fighter Tank for different legions, but the problem here is that LEGO will eventually run out of models in similar scale to the Tank. If they made smaller models, those would probably be around the size of a Battle Pack, and we know how 75206 Jedi and Clone Troopers Battle Pack was received, on the basis that there were not one, but two named characters in a battle pack.
The only things I can sort of see being made similarly to the Tank would be a Swamp Speeder, Hailfire Droid, Tank Droid or a Homing Spider Droid. (notice how I ran out of Republic vehicles lol). For clone legions I'd like the requisite 104th and 327th, as well as Galactic Marines.
And yes, the duel between Jocasta Nu and the Grand Inquisitor is from a canon comic. Jocasta was overpowered and would have been defeated had Vader not interfered, having been instructed to bring her in alive. It's quite an interesting comic run, you could probably find more information on Jocasta's Wookieepedia page."
That's true that they would run out of Republic vehicles quickly. I wouldn't mind it if the build was Separatist focused since they likely won't include more interesting separatist droids or figures. They could also do sets more akin to the Battle of Saleucami where they include smaller Republic vehicles, Separatist vehicles/buildable droids, and a terrain build. I loved that set as a kid, but I'm not sure how well it was received by others.
Ah, I remember my brother talking about that comic now. I love Wookiepedia, but it's almost as bad as YouTube for me in how I lose track of time on it.
Things are tight, so now selling off bits of the collection to get this and some of the other high priced sets. Time to be more selective. Desperate times I guess… :D
@blogzilly said:
"Things are tight, so now selling off bits of the collection to get this and some of the other high priced sets. Time to be more selective. Desperate times I guess… :D"
No offense, but first-world problems LMAO
@CapnRex101 said:
" @dunkandegg said:
"This is a ridiculously fantastic set and definitely a day 1 buy - one question, is the set really as deep as the official measurements? After mocking it up in Studio it doesn’t come close to the 50cm depth - it would be great to know as I’m intending on displaying it on an IKEA Billy bookcase, 76cm wide by 37cm deep"
When displayed with the main building facing directly forwards, the depth is 38cm. However, you can angle the model for a minimum depth of 35cm, so it should fit on your bookcase.
I have no idea how LEGO could have calculated the 50cm depth."
What about the center piece alone (main building) How deep is that, if displayed alone?
@danieltheo said:
"I know nothing at all about the Lord of the RIngs and the subject matter therefore does not interest me at all, but that is an awesome set, the construction techniques and detailing used are exceptional but it at a huge cost too..."
You really need to watch the movies, and if you have the time, read the book!
@margulies said:
"Looks beautiful. But aligning all the 1x1 tiles for the roof must be a nightmare..."
I thought so too, but if you look at the manual they have you sliding a long plate along the edges to align entire rows quickly.
@PurpleDave said:
"
That is clearly Hypnotoad’s eye under the council seating.
"
Looks like it's been steam-rolled. Oh wait, it was!
@dunkandegg said:
"This is a ridiculously fantastic set and definitely a day 1 buy - one question, is the set really as deep as the official measurements? After mocking it up in Studio it doesn’t come close to the 50cm depth - it would be great to know as I’m intending on displaying it on an IKEA Billy bookcase, 76cm wide by 37cm deep"
Hey, I have the same case and I wonder if you managed to fit it in. Would you mind sharing how it worked for you?