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It isn't useful to the project --Banfield - Amenazas aquí 02:01, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. does not render -- Common Good (talk) 20:00, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
This letter is not the work of any nation, hence it is not in the public domain. Rights may be reserved by CNN. malo (talk) 04:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Steve Smith (talk) 18:49, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete Obviously. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:10, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
bad joke image malo (talk) 04:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete - per nom - nonsense - can be deleted without waiting for seven days Cholo Aleman (talk) 09:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:53, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
bad joke image malo (talk) 04:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - strong delete per nom - nonsense Cholo Aleman (talk) 09:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:53, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
nonsense outside project scope malo (talk) 05:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:53, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Image clearly taken from a TV screen, unused, likely copyrighted malo (talk) 05:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete - copy violation Cholo Aleman (talk) 06:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:52, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
License states CC-ND malo (talk) 05:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:52, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
This license it's false (PD old in a nes aerial photo!) André Koehne TALK TO ME 06:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Common Good (talk) 20:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
out of scope Amada44 (talk) 07:19, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete - per nom Cholo Aleman (talk) 07:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:51, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
not useful and too small Amada44 (talk) 07:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - not usable - looks like a joke / test or something similar Cholo Aleman (talk) 09:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:50, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
another false license (PD old to aereal photo) André Koehne TALK TO ME 08:37, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Common Good (talk) 20:04, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
fantasy logo - small, unused = out of scope, unusable Cholo Aleman (talk) 10:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete as possible copyvio, but it's not fantasy. The image has a proper description, it's a logo of some real life structure: [1]. Trycatch (talk) 01:35, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:55, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
personal image --Mykee881211 12:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Shockblazer (talk) 14:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 19:01, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I do not believe this is "own work", because it looks too much like something cropped from a book. Teofilo (talk) 12:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, unlikely own work Belgrano (talk) 20:37, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, This users gallery is entirely images from other sources but maked as the users work, including Heinrich Harder see File:Carodnia.jpg --Kevmin (talk) 20:02, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:55, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
The image description says only that the image was released for promotional purposes, and certainly says nothing about "unrestricted redistribution, commercial use, and modification." -Steve Smith (talk) 18:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
this file contains classified info on the prowler --71.49.188.28 20:57, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Kept. DOD probably knows best what's classified, eh? -- Common Good (talk) 19:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
copyright logo Benstown (talk) 03:05, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
- Delete I think it's virtually sure, that User:Prekazi81 is not the original creator of these logos. In addition to these five images nominated for deletion, he has uploaded files
- that should probably be deleted too. --Herra Maka (talk) 22:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. NW (Talk) 18:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
empty file Amada44 (talk) 07:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted by Túrelio: empty file Cholo Aleman (talk) 11:02, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
copyright logo Benstown (talk) 03:42, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Deleted by Túrelio: Fair use material is not allowed on Commons: the file should not have been moved to Commons - the original copy is located on en.wikipedia [2] and tagged as non-free
Work of a living artist,no FOP in the United States --KTo288 (talk) 14:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete, per nom (or has set a new world record). OSX (talk • contributions) 03:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Keep, the criteria aforementioned does not apply in this case. The Photo has been taken from a public monument, situated in a public place, designed, built and used for the public in general. Photographers are allowed to take pictures of public places, monuments, parks, paintings, architecture and their details in buildings, whether the artist, architect or civil engineer were alive or not. Now, what can be done is to find out the sculptor's name and make the appropriate attribution to her/his name. I can find out and do it. But this is a monument which has been funded with the tax-payers' money and in that sense belongs to the public of New Jersey and constituted their patrimony and therefore it is a property that falls in the public domain. JohnManuel (talk) 23:27, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
- In general you're right with regards to buildings but not art works (please see Freedom of Panorama in the United States). Taking a photograph for pesonal use, i.e. you just want a photo for your own personal photo album at home is one thing , however all files here on Commons must allow commercial re-use by third parties, something most artists would be reluctant to allow. In this specific case it may be possible that the artist relinquished his copyright to the city when he accepted the commission, and that the city is happy to allow commercial third party use, however I have found nothing which would indicate that this is the case. This related case may be of interest.KTo288 (talk) 07:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- It is very interesting, but at this point you and I don't know exactly what is the real position of the artist, therefore, we should find out first. In addition, the photo really doesn't show the details of the monument. We both can contact the artist and find out what is his/her real outlook about the whole thing. Anyway, thank you, you are exercising a very important role for the project as a whole. Sincerely JohnManuel (talk) 21:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete That's like drinking beer from someones fridge because "you and I don't know exactly what is the real position of the" owner. It may be OK to ask him/her, but first one stops drinking his/her beer. Erik Warmelink (talk) 14:50, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- It is very interesting, but at this point you and I don't know exactly what is the real position of the artist, therefore, we should find out first. In addition, the photo really doesn't show the details of the monument. We both can contact the artist and find out what is his/her real outlook about the whole thing. Anyway, thank you, you are exercising a very important role for the project as a whole. Sincerely JohnManuel (talk) 21:53, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- In general you're right with regards to buildings but not art works (please see Freedom of Panorama in the United States). Taking a photograph for pesonal use, i.e. you just want a photo for your own personal photo album at home is one thing , however all files here on Commons must allow commercial re-use by third parties, something most artists would be reluctant to allow. In this specific case it may be possible that the artist relinquished his copyright to the city when he accepted the commission, and that the city is happy to allow commercial third party use, however I have found nothing which would indicate that this is the case. This related case may be of interest.KTo288 (talk) 07:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
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- As JohnManuel --Starscream (talk) 18:09, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Copyrighted sculpture, insufficient FOP in the USA. ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 15:07, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
in scope? Amada44 (talk) 07:24, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Is used in a userpage... I think that even a pointless but used image can not be deleted because is pointless.. Fale (talk) 23:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Keep Please do not nominate images that are in use for reasons of scope. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- The image still has the Deletion Template... is that normal? Fale (talk) 16:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Kept. Mbdortmund (talk) 23:47, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
unused personal image - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 13:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted, in addition to above, "source=facebook" Infrogmation (talk) 19:20, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
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Personal photo of uploader's friends; useless for educational or informative purposes Nyttend (talk) 13:29, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Note that this was transferred from en:wp; by "uploader" I mean the en:wp uploader, not the person who transferred it to Commons. Nyttend (talk) 13:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Keep: Strangely enough, illustrates a well-known tradition, at least in Illinois, at a national landmark. Rubbing Lincoln's nose on the front bust at Lincoln's Tomb for good luck (or just because you can) is common practice. I think I did even did it when I was a kid; and even for anyone who doesn't know about the tradition, the eye-catching shine on his nose makes them do what comes naturally. Evidence back at least 40 years: Irene Hunt discussed it in 1967 when accepting her Newberry Award; Bloomington's sister city delegation from Vladimir, Russia rubs the nose in a 1989 photo: "Sister City Association celebrates 20th anniversary" by Sharon K. Wolfe, The Pantagraph (Bloomington, Illinois), 2009-09-12; travel guide page 126 of In Lincoln's Footsteps (1991); author mentions doing it in the Introduction in The Lincolns: A Scrapbook Look at Abraham and Mary (2008); a 2008-06-21 blog post at The State Journal-Register (Springfield's main newspaper) about tomb renovations is titled "The nose … is closed"; and there is a retired Christmas ornament from 1996. There are no other photos of this on Wikipedia. --Closeapple (talk) 08:13, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Withdraw per Closeapple's evidence; I never imagined that this was anything but a silly juvenile attempt to disgust viewers. Nyttend (talk) 14:34, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
- I can see how the way the kid in the hat is positioned might be suggestive; but regular behavior really is to touch the outside like he's doing, not what his finger suggests. (There are pictures on the web of people doing otherwise, and inside the monument no less, but they are of course vulgar blasphemers. Tsk!) --Closeapple (talk) 15:30, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
- I assumed that they were pretending to pick his nose :-) Nyttend (talk) 01:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- Keep clearly an often-touched nose. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Kept - nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure). /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 22:54, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Unused personal picture. Ices2Csharp (talk) 13:04, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Question: How is this different than before, when the result was Keep? (It illustrates an Illinois tradition, and for a file to be out-of-scope under Commons:Project scope#File not legitimately in use, it also must not be "realistically useful for an educational purpose".) --Closeapple (talk) 13:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- It's not true the result was 'keep'. The nomination was canceled instead. I see no realistic educational purpose, adding such a picture to an article would be considered vandalism. Ices2Csharp (talk) 13:13, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- I think perhaps you're misunderstanding what is going on in that picture: Perhaps you think they are picking his nose? This was discussed in the previous nomination. They are rubbing the tip of his nose for "good luck" (or just because it attracts people to touch it). It's actually one of the better-known attributes of Lincoln's Tomb, at least to people in Illinois. If Commons had a better image of the same behavior at Lincoln's Tomb, maybe I could see how this file would be an unnecessary duplicate because it has been mistaken for nose-picking in the past. --Closeapple (talk) 13:56, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Also, as far as it being canceled: I see "Kept" from a non-admin closure, which is allowed by Commons:Deletion policy#Closure "if they have a good understanding of the process, and provided the closure is not controversial". An explanation, agreement, and withdrawal of a nomination, followed by a over a month and a half open for anyone else to assert deletion reasons again, with no response, is about as uncontroversial as it gets. --Closeapple (talk) 02:11, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- It's not true the result was 'keep'. The nomination was canceled instead. I see no realistic educational purpose, adding such a picture to an article would be considered vandalism. Ices2Csharp (talk) 13:13, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Keep speedy - it is quite clear that Ices2Csharp had not considered the previous nomination. Plaes stop making this kind of nominations. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 13:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- It's true I didn't see the other nomination when I started this one, but I still think this file should be deleted. (You didn't add any valid reason for 'speedy' closure.) Ices2Csharp (talk) 14:03, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
- Keep sigh. Pro-tip -- if the link to the talk page is blue, the picture was already nominated for deletion or there is something on the talk page you should consider before the nomination. Trycatch (talk) 15:51, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the tip. Could you also say why you want to keep this? "Sigh" is not quite a clear argument. Ices2Csharp (talk) 20:25, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Keep per same reasons as previous discussion: Still "realistically useful for an educational purpose" (per Commons:Project scope#File not legitimately in use), with all the citations I noted in the previous nomination, all of which are still online. Likely to remain realistically educational unless Commons gets better examples of someone rubbing the nose in front of Lincoln's Tomb, which is a long-established, well-documented tradition in Illinois. --Closeapple (talk) 02:11, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- Keep. It appears to have been uploaded as a personal picture, but it's a member of the rare breed of personal pictures that are realistically useful for the general public. No reason to delete this, given the sources that Closeapple gave in the first deletion nomination. Nyttend (talk) 03:40, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Kept per comments and previous nom. -- Infrogmation (talk) 18:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
out of project scope malo (talk) 21:36, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete - per nom Cholo Aleman (talk) 10:32, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete - stills from an internet video; copyvio. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 03:09, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
out of scope malo (talk) 21:53, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- out of scope, delete--Motopark (talk) 20:18, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Delete - per nom, out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 10:22, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Comment at second sight: there seems to be a relation to a swedish club, see http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosy_Den - but it is unused, and the connection is less than clear.. Cholo Aleman (talk) 20:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 03:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
out of scope malo (talk) 15:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
delete it, I don't care --77.196.22.168 06:56, 13. Apr. 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom. Amada44 (talk) 14:00, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom Cholo Aleman (talk) 14:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom --AllyUnion (talk) 12:05, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. –Juliancolton | Talk 00:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
out of scope malo (talk) 19:25, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom Cholo Aleman (talk) 08:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
deleted per disc--DieBuche (talk) 20:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
unused image of an unknown mexican musician - self promotion - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 10:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 14:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
copyright logo Benstown (talk) 06:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Deleted by Bidgee: Copyright violation: it's a copyright logo
copyright logo Benstown (talk) 06:40, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Deleted by Bidgee: Copyright violation: it's a copyright logo
out of scope malo (talk) 05:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete - joke, unusable Cholo Aleman (talk) 13:17, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Delete - agreed with above. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:53, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
unused, out of focus, terrible band photo malo (talk) 04:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete - unused and unusable Cholo Aleman (talk) 20:15, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. ZooFari 16:14, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
promotion for a website only, outside project scope malo (talk) 04:51, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete out of scope, advertisement - no source Cholo Aleman (talk) 20:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. ZooFari 16:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
out of scope malo (talk) 05:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete per nom Cholo Aleman (talk) 20:31, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. ZooFari 16:15, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
unused private image - out of scope (funny people, but private and undescribed) Cholo Aleman (talk) 06:37, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. ZooFari 16:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
out of scope malo (talk) 19:28, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete - no source, unusable - can be deleted speedily Cholo Aleman (talk) 19:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete Funny image, and I like it too, but the signature doesn't fit to the uploader's name. Trycatch (talk) 17:24, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, I missed that; seems to be "Moozer" or something. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 17:32, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. ZooFari 16:17, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
"Patty Conwell" ? --- is out of scope :) - unused private image - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 19:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. ZooFari 16:18, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
strange unused drawing - unused since 2006, only edit of this user - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 19:44, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. ZooFari 16:18, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
unused private image - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 19:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. ZooFari 16:17, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
copyright logo Benstown (talk) 03:33, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Deleted, likely copyright violation. Kameraad Pjotr 19:01, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
The image appears to be a crop and photo edited from a not specified source. As such, the copyright status of this derivative image is disputed. Bluemask (talk) 09:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Info read also File talk:Bishop-helder-camara.JPG
Deleted --russavia (talk) 16:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
used for advertisement, outside scope, possible copyright vio malo (talk) 04:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Delete - taken from a website - copyright violation Cholo Aleman (talk) 04:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 00:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
low quality, lots of other drummer pictures Drakosh (talk) 07:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 00:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
The subject died in 2007, yet the uploader claims it was taken in 2009. 293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 08:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 00:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
unusable pdf, broken text, unused, looks like test - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 09:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 00:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Not useful for any imaginable educational purpose. SchuminWeb (Talk) 12:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 00:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Tagged as {{PD-Sweden-photo}}, but this is neather a photographic picture nor a photographic work. —LX (talk, contribs) 12:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete License does not apply. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 00:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
No basis for the claim that the copyright holder of this work has released it under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike license. The Permission field references Sweden's Freedom of Information legislation, but this legislation has no impact on copyright. —LX (talk, contribs) 12:52, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete License cannot apply. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:16, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Wknight94 talk 00:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Music from Dream Theater`s title "Metropolis", played and recorded by someone else. I believe that makes it a copyvio, even if it is only a short part othe entire work. /Ö 13:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete Copyvio (but see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Atzeret Dana MVI 5780.ogg for different opinions). /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:22, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Blacklake (talk) 19:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Bertrand Piechaud's artwork. The artist is alive. No freedom of panorama in France. 88.122.69.27 13:19, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Si c'est le principe de supprimer les photos d'oeuvres sur la place publique, montrées ici à titre d'illustration, go, mais je doute que ce soit vraiment la loi que d'interdire les reproductions d'oeuvres sur des sites comme celui-ci. Il suffit d'indiquer qu'il s'agit d'une présentation à titre d'illustration pas à des fins commerciales, ce qui est déjà fait... Je pense qu'on a ici des juristes un peu trop emportés par des démarches de haute considération de leur interprétation des lois... cordialement. Jean-Louis Lascoux (talk) 15:24, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
- Il ne s'agit pas seulement de l'autorisation du photographe (en l'occurence Jean-Louis Lascoux), mais de celle de l'artiste qui a conçu l'œuvre représentée sur la photo. La loi c'est la loi, sur Wikimedia Commons comme ailleurs. Pas de liberté de panorama en France : la règle est clairement exposée ici. Sans autorisation de reproduction par l'artiste ou les ayant-doits de l'œuvre représentée, on supprime. 91.168.3.13 13:21, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Stifle (talk) 10:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
unused unidentified object - unusable - out of scope Cholo Aleman (talk) 19:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Comment Looks like a species of category:Arum. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 16:41, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted. Stifle (talk) 10:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Not used on Wikipedia, we have a better headshot released; subject requests deletion and specifically asks that it is not used in any Wikipedia article. The image is taken form a CC-licensed external site and is not, as far as I can tell, the work of a Commons editor. JzG (talk) 20:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --JN466 15:02, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Photo of a notable model (and actor) on a public event (AVN Adult Entertainment Expo 2009), and on its work, so no privacy concerns. The other images of this subject being of better quality, is in my opinion subjective. License is also good, as this site releases most of its work under a CC-BY-SA 3.0 license. I´ve added a personality rights tag and a more exact image source. Tm (talk) 01:20, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- Keep The fact that it is not used on Wikipedia is irrelevant - it is within the Commons project scope. The fact that we have a headshot of the subject in no way speaks to whether we should keep this image or not. The fact that it was not the work of a Commons editor is completely irrelevant -- what we care about is that it is freely licensed, which it is. Photo was taken at a public event, where subject had no expectations of privacy (see Commons:Photographs of identifiable people). Even if the subject did actually want the image removed, we do not normally allow image subjects to dictate what images are kept on the Commons. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
- We also have two better full-body photographs on Commons alone. Guy 12:25, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- So? We typically don't delete images because we also have others of the same subject. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Kept. Stifle (talk) 10:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
The undeletion discussion in the following section is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive.
Joseph Gatt requests this photo be deleted on the grounds that he is recognizable and has not approved this image Motones (talk) 00:01, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Keep Per last deletion request this is a photo of a notable model (and actor) on a public event (AVN Adult Entertainment Expo 2009), and on its work, clearly posing and being conscious of the presence of the camera, so no privacy concerns and in the USA there is no expectation of privacy in public place, even more of a public figure. The other images of this subject being of better quality, is in my opinion subjective. License is also good, as this site releases most of its work under a CC-BY-SA 3.0 license. I´ve added a personality rights tag and a more exact image source. Also no proof this is a legitimate request. And all others images in Category:Joseph Gatt are uploaded by the user that started this deletion request, and they all seem to me to be copyright violations,incluinding one uploaded today, that is heavily interpolated and is a copyright violation from Getty Images, even if there is a template for a pending otrs. Tm (talk) 00:48, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- Comment There is a deletion request of a derivative file, open by the same user and with information vandalized by the same user. Tm (talk) 01:07, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Keep Per Tm's logic. Tabercil (talk) 22:24, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
- Keep per above. Joseph Gatt appears to be a person of some notability making an appearance at an event. If Gatt doesn't much care for this image, that is not in itself a reason for deletion. If there are restrictions on photography at this event, some evidence of such would be relevant not just to this photo but to presumably all of the large number of files in Category:AVN Adult Entertainment Expo and it's subcategories. (Note to Gatt or their agents - submission of good quality free licensed images of Gatt are encouraged.) -- Infrogmation (talk) 23:10, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
No consensus to delete -FASTILY 22:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
1925 picture. No evidence is provided that the (unknown) photographer died more than 70 years ago. Teofilo (talk) 13:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Before that you would have to show that it was published and check in that publication if an author name is provided. Teofilo (talk) 12:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- That is not true. I see no problem even if this was never published. Provenance is clear: Archives of the Corps Bavaria in Erlangen. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 12:30, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- If unpublished, publication starts with the upload on Wikimedia Commons in 2010, and you can't start using {{PD-EU-no author disclosure}} before 2010 + 70 (+1) = 1 January 2081. Teofilo (talk) 15:06, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted, without first publication we cannot be sure no author was mentioned. Kameraad Pjotr 18:19, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Source is given as "от моего деда" (from my grandfather), but uploader lists self as author, and this sure looks like it came from a book, magazine, or wall display. It is possible that this can be clarified and kept, but it is clearly not OK as it stands. Jmabel ! talk 04:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Здравствуйте, источник указан "от моего деда" потому как права на размещение и использование данного материала перешли ко мне от моего дедушки Игнатьева Петра Александровича. Автором фото я указал себя, потому что фото действительно сделал я со стенда в музее Великой Отечественной Войны Днепропетровского Машиностроительного Завода где размещена информация о моём дедушке. Автор той фотографии которая размещена на стенде в музее не указан - скорее всего один из работников завода.
Возможно я действительно не совсем корректно заполнил поля описания к изображению (т.к. не имею опыта размещения статей на Википедии), но хочу обратить ваше внимание на то, что я имею полное право использовать и распространять информацию о моём дедушке. Эта информация является общественным достоянием. Исходя из этого настоятельно прошу вас изображение не удалять, а помочь правильно заполнить описание к нему. Заранее Спасибо!
I don't have enough Russian to translate the above, but Google Translate gives the following:
Hello, the source specified "from my grandfather," because the right to occupancy and use of the material passed to me from my grandfather Ignatieva Peter Alexandrovich. The author of the photo, I pointed to myself, because the photo really made me to stand in the museum of the Great Patriotic War, the Dnepropetrovsk Machine-building plant which contains the information about my grandfather. The author of the photos posted on the bench in the museum is not specified - probably one of the workers.
Maybe I'm really not quite correctly filled field description to the image (because it does not have the experience of posting articles on Wikipedia), but I want to draw your attention to the fact that I have every right to use and disseminate information about my grandfather. This information is in the public domain. Therefore I urge you not to delete the image, but to help fill out the description of him. Thanks!
Unless these photos are somehow in the public domain, this still looks to me like derivative work of a copyrighted work. In particular, the photographer of the images in the museum, not the subject of the photo, would be the copyright owner of those underlying images. - Jmabel ! talk 17:35, 10 April 2010 (UTC)http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:MemorialPAIgnatiev.jpg&action=edit
Sorry, but I don't have enough English to understand all that you say, only most part of it. Let's look on it like this. If photografer that create this photo in 1956 year give this photo to museum that everyone can look on it and make photo of it - it's public domain. Or it does not?
And also employees of museum do not object of that I can use this photo. In the current moment this photo is the property of the museum(not copyright, just as property).
And also, I don't surely understand what evidence I can give to you to proof that this photo is in public domain? I ready to do all that I can.
I use to make decisions looking on assumption of innocence. So if there are no copyright holder that pretend on this photo - then it's public domain.
- No, placing something in a museum does not make it public domain in copyright terms, although it would presumably constitute publication. Again, the copyright would normally belong to the photographer, or someone to whom the photographer has explicitly assigned it, as long as that copyright exists. I don't know Russian copyright law well enough to know the details on expiration on anonymous work from (I presume) 1956 that was effectively published when it was placed in the museum. We need to find someone who can sort that out. But the precautionary principle means that if we don't have a clean picture of the rights, Commons can't host it. That wouldn't mean you can't put it anywhere on the Internet, just not here. I certainly have images on my Flickr account that wouldn't past Commons rather strict standard for rights. - Jmabel ! talk 17:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Ok, than let's look on this situation next way. I live in Ukraine. Photo was made in Ukraine. Museum is stands in Ukraine. I have looked at our law and there sayed(sorry source in Russian, I can't correctly translate so much):
Закон Украины "Об авторском праве и смежных правах" - Раздел II. Авторское право
Статья 21. Свободное использование произведения с указанием имени автора
Без согласия автора (либо другого лица, обладающего авторским правом), но с обязательным указанием имени автора и источника заимствования, допускается: 1) использование цитат (кратких отрывков) из опубликованных произведений в объеме, оправданном поставленной целью, в том числе цитирование статей из газет и журналов в форме обзоров печати, если оно обусловлено критическим, полемическим, научным или информационным характером произведения, в которое цитаты включаются; свободное использование цитат в форме кратких отрывков из выступлений и произведений, включенных в фонограммы (видеограммы) или программы вещания;
2) использование литературных и художественных произведений в объеме, оправданном поставленной целью, в качестве иллюстраций в изданиях, передачах вещания, звукозаписях или видеозаписях учебного характера;
3) воспроизведение в печати, публичное исполнение либо публичное сообщение предварительно опубликованных в газетах или журналах статей по текущим экономическим, политическим, религиозным и социальным вопросам либо публично сообщенных произведений такого же характера в случаях, когда право на такое воспроизведение, публичное оповещение или иное публичное сообщение специально не запрещено автором;
4) воспроизведение в целях освещения текущих событий средствами фотографии или кинематографии, публичное оповещение или иное публичное сообщение произведений, увиденных или услышанных в ходе развития таких событий, в объеме, оправданном информационной целью;
5) воспроизведение в каталогах произведений, выставленных на доступных публике выставках, аукционах, ярмарках или в коллекциях;
6) издание выпущенных в свет произведений рельефно-точечным шрифтом для слепых;
7) воспроизведение произведений для судебного и административного производства в объеме, оправданном этой целью;
8) публичное исполнение музыкальных произведений во время официальных и религиозных церемоний, а также похорон в объеме, оправданном характером таких церемоний;
9) воспроизведение в информационных целях в газетах и других периодических изданиях, передача в эфир или иное публичное сообщение публично провозглашенных речей, обращений, докладов и других подобных произведений в объеме, оправданном поставленной целью;
10) воспроизведение произведения в целях и при условиях, предусмотренных статьями 22 - 25 настоящего Закона. Этот перечень свободного использования произведений является исчерпывающим.
You can check this information in the internet. So what the 4th item say to us. It currently says that I can use foto and video without the consent of the author IF I use it to highlight current events and the extent justified by the information purpose.
Let's look how I use this photo? I made visit to museum (current event), made story about my grandfather, and I had posted photo that was made by me on what we can see part of two photo's that was made by same other author. So by posting this photo I don't copy every image of those authors (one by one), I use it to highlight current event(visit to museum) and on photo it's clearly seen that it made from wall display (as you sayed) and I use it in extent justified by the information purpose (no more no less). So using this photo in that current way I not violate the law of Ukraine. And i don't need consent of the author. How you look on this thing? --Fares Dnepr — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.25.9.9 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
- Delete К сожалению, для Викисклада такой свободы недостаточно, она не соответствует определению свободного произведения. Это все добросовестное использование, которое на Викискладе запрещено. Trycatch (talk) 01:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Deleted, copyright violation: photo from a copyrighted subject. Kameraad Pjotr 19:39, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
