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File:Seagry map004.JPG

File:Seagry map004.JPG has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Wire723 (talk) 09:57, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

File:PumpkinTower.jpg

File:PumpkinTower.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

A1Cafel (talk) 03:32, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Template:IWM

Template:IWM has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this template, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:50, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Edwin Jones lived to age 125 and 11 months (As far as I am aware he is the oldest person in the world to have lived to this age.)

Hello Would you have a mailing address where I can send a certified copy of my Grand fathers death certificate that states birth date in the U.S.A. and death date in Wales Great Britain so he can be noted as the oldest person to have lived in the world.

I sometimes find Wikipedia hard to navigate to either get to the right person to achieve my goal as my eye sight is not too good. Thanks My grand father just lived his life to that age and did not even get a telegram from the Queen when he was 100. Philip Jones (Grandson) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamphilmj (talk • contribs) 14:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid we can't help you here, this is Wikimedia Commons, a media repository. You'd prbably get a better answer at the Wikipedia Help Desk. Cheers. Rodhullandemu (talk) 15:26, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

User:Rodhullandemu/Attrib

I noticed you use {{Attribution}} here. This is one of the weird legacy license templates to say you just require attribution. I would suggest you change it to {{self|cc-by-sa-4.0|GFDL|attribution=By Phil Nash from Wikimedia Commons CC BY-SA 4.0 & GFDL<br >[https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=commons.wikimedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} Views]}}. That way you use more standard templates. Multichill (talk) 19:54, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@Multichill: It's not really as pretty but no problem with that. Consider it done. Rodhullandemu (talk) 19:59, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Picasso

you kept a work by Picasso (Commons:Deletion requests/File:Picasso plate in the ceramics museum (8314970359).jpg ). Your decision is not the best. Not before public domain day 2044, you should think about it. --Goesseln (talk) 20:51, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

@Goesseln: I had no idea what "no uploads" meant, so regarded it as a defective nomination. We need reasons. Please renominate with a good reason based in our policies. Thanks. Rodhullandemu (talk) 21:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

 Info Template:no uploads. --Goesseln (talk) 21:17, 3 February 2020 (UTC)--Goesseln (talk) 21:17, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

{{tl|No uploads}} would have worked. OK, I'll delete it. Rodhullandemu (talk) 21:23, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Hugh Baird College

I have now uploaded with EXIF data included. I run the Hugh Baird College website and have just submitted an OTRS confirming my authority to release the image. Please remove all copyright violation tags you have added. Drb20141 (talk) 17:59, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@Drb20141: I will put the appropriate tag on the page to show that OTRS has been sent. Unfortunately we have a backlog so it may take some time to validate. Sorry, but to protect the Wikimedia Foundation from legal action there is no leeway in this, especially given that "today" and "2nd December 2019" are not the same. Thanks. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:04, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@Rodhullandemu: Thanks. Yes, the OTRS email reply advised there is a 1 day backlog. I have a ticket number if you need it. I'm not sure why the metadata is showing 2nd December 2019. Can you stop the deletion and remove tags once my authorisation has been approved. Thank you. Drb20141 (talk) 18:09, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@Drb20141: It's not up to me, bcause I don't handle OTRS requests. There are specialists for this, and they are under considerable time pressure. Sorry. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:11, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@Rodhullandemu: Can you remove tags once my authorisation has been approved? Is this automated? Drb20141 (talk) 18:15, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

@Drb20141: The OTRS volunteer will do that if satified by the email you sent. Cheers. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:21, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

RevDel edit summaries

Are you able to RevDel these [1][2][3] edit summaries? Bidgee (talk) 23:50, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done Waste of oxygen. Rodhullandemu (talk) 23:56, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Indeed it is! Bidgee (talk) 23:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Bungled cropping

Thanks for your help. Could I have reverted it - if so how? I had planned to produce a different image as you suggested, but couldn't see how within the crop tool. --TedColes (talk) 15:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

@TedColes: . To the left of each image, there's a box, and below the top image, there should be "revert" which makes that the current image. Not sure whether it will only work for admins, however. In CropTool, when you get the Upload page, there's an option to Overwrite or Upload as New Image; it should give the option to use a different name. Rodhullandemu (talk) 15:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Image corruption detected in File:Ash Street memorial, Bootle 3.jpg

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Hello Rodhullandemu, it appears that the version of File:Ash Street memorial, Bootle 3.jpg which you uploaded 2020-02-18T20:50:19Z is broken or corrupt. Please review the image and attempt to correct this issue by uploading a new version of the file. TheSandBot will re-review this image again in 7 days. If it is still corrupt at that time, then the file may be nominated for deletion. This is most likely to happen when a substantial portion of the image is corrupt. Thank you,

TheSandBot (talk) 20:50, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done, you moron. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Named after ...

If the structure on top of the churches' category is badly built all you've just done is to keep consistency with a crappy naming structure. It's years that the scheme is "Things named after ... " because the en.wiki's naming style is being gradually dropped on here. Instead of changing a single category to keep consistency with a failing structure, you'd better open a cfd in order to adequate the whole naming structure of the churches to the ones already existing. -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 17:44, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Category:Churches by country by patron saint is all by name. I'm very tired right now but it look like the problem is that Category:Things named after Bernadette Soubirous was in Category:Things named after saints rather than the more precise Category:Things named after saints by saint name, so I've moved it and on a quick look, it seems OK now. We should not be importing Wikipedia's categories here, because they're usually incomplete and often wrong. Commons is an entirely seaparate project and exists for a different purpose. So I'm not going to raise a Cfd to fix something that is not broken. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:15, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Valued Image Promotion

★ Your nomination has been reviewed and promoted ★
Congratulations! The image you nominated was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Voelas Street, Liverpool - restored.
If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Valued images candidates.

review

•  Support —Percival Kestreltail (talk) 16:18, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. —Percival Kestreltail (talk) 16:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Welsh Streets photos

Hi, I am developing an article for the Liverpool Welsh Streets on English wikipedia and noted you took a few photos during the redevelopment a few years ago. Do you have happen to have any more recent ones, such as post-development that could be uploaded too for use? Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:17, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bungle: Only what you see on the various categories, but I live about ten minutes walk away and could get some as part of my (cough!) exercise walk. Anything particular in mind? Rodhullandemu (talk) 00:28, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Ah, that's handy for you then (I wouldn't want to encourage you to make a non-essential trip though)! I can only see how it changed through google street view (and even that is a few years ago and not the streets themselves), so I can't say anything very specific in particular. It could do with having an infobox photo and at least 1 photo showing a completely refurbished street (I guess Voelas or Wynnstay would look better). I think one of the end houses also has "The Welsh Streets" painted on the side? I also don't know what the state of Madryn is yet and whether Ringo's old home is still under refurb or done? Article is here if you're interested and i'm already using 3 of your photos on it! Cheers. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bungle: Aiming to get there in the next day or two. I'll do a full set so you can pick the best. The article is in good shape, it should get GA easily. Rodhullandemu (talk) 19:50, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Ah great, i'm sure it'll be a big help (and also to see the current progress too in order to try and determine this for the article). Yes, it's going through a GA review as you noted as it's such a fascinating part of the area with such interesting contemporary history (a bit like the granby4streets which I am looking into an article for too, though source material isn't as readily available). Thanks again for the forthcoming photos. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bungle: OK, it's taken a couple of trips because of the sun, but I've now done all the streets part of the renovation process. File:Welsh Streets mural 3.jpg might be the best for an infobox since it's good quality and sort of generic. File:Powis Street, Liverpool 2020S.jpg is already in the infobox for Powis Street and is supported as a Valued Image. I've also taken pics of the surrounding streets (Elwy, Teilo, Dovey, Pengwern and Treborth) which are not in the renovation scheme and will upload them tomorrow. Cheers. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:14, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Evening, I actually noticed your photos a day or two ago slowly being added as I could see when scanning the categories that they were included, so have been checking your progress on this and picking a few to use (which I have). On the mural, I opted for the first one on the basis that it showed the writing more than the others (darn tree!) and part of the houses to give that "feel". Several of your photos now feature on the article which really elevates the look and feel and I am grateful that you took the time to update these. I also see google street view recently updated their stock to show the refurbished streets, albeit from summer last year so it's interesting to see the changes to your photos even since that time. Thanks! Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi again, I got round to creating the Granby Four Streets article which I hope to develop in the same way as the Welsh Streets ones. I don't suppose you have any photos of this area in your repository? Much of what is uploaded shows them in a derelict state, while there doesn't seem to be much from post-renovation times. As these are practically next to Welsh Streets, I wondered if you previously got any photos of this area too? No worries if not, as it may be a while before the article size could be considered significant anyway! Also, the Welsh Streets one got the GA pass and I think with your photos it looks great, as I'm sure you'll agree! Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Bungle: It's a good start. Haven't been there for a while but I can have a go tomorrow. Congrats on the GA for Welsh Streets. Rodhullandemu (talk) 15:22, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. The prose is a bit unpolished at the moment while I get the information together. It'd be great if there are any you can get (not sure about what to use for a "feature/infobox" image for this area?); I don't want to make requests in these circumstances, but would be grateful if you have the opportunity. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:52, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Vandal DRs

Thanks very much for all the work you put into cleaning this up. I did a CU and found the user who did it -- the fact that she quoted my words in the DR that she objects to were a strong hint, but the CU confirmed it. Rather than block her myself, I've asked for one of my fellow CUs to do it. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 20:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

@Jameslwoodward: Thanks Jim, I had a feeling there was some history here. Rodhullandemu (talk) 21:05, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Sidney David Gamble

I don't know, either. Gamble's photographs were in two categories (Category:Sidney D. Gamble (photographer)‎ and Category:Sidney David Gamble) and I moved them in one but didn't notice the disambiguation thing. I've moved them to Category:Sidney D. Gamble. Thank you. ——三猎 (talk) 12:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks for that. I started the first category in 2014 and someone created the other later on without noticing. Rodhullandemu (talk) 12:42, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Commons Photographers User Group: Meeting on May 30, 2020

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

I’d like to invite you to our group’s first Virtual Meeting on Saturday, May 30, 2020. The meeting will serve as an opportunity to get to know each other better, share learnings, and connect in times of the global COVID-19 pandemic.

Please take a look at the meeting page and add your name to the list of participants if you’re planning to attend.

Hope to see you in a week! All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 17:13, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Please remove picture

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Do-ujHDXsAABX5K.jpg I have found a better one

Thank you!--Kibitzkibitz22 (talk) 18:16, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

@Kibitzkibitz22: I have nominated it for sppedy deletion. It should be gone soon. Rodhullandemu (talk) 19:33, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Commons Photographers User Group: Meeting on September 26 and other stuff

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

I've got a quick update for you, containing three items:

• I’d like to invite you to our group’s second Virtual Meeting on Saturday, September 26, 2020. As last time, this meeting will serve as an opportunity to get to know each other better, share learnings, and connect in times of the global COVID-19 pandemic. If you'd like to present, please add your name and the proposed topic to the list on the talk page.
• Also, I'd like to start a conversation about how we should be sharing responsibility for the user group going forward. I'd love to get some help when it comes to organizing things and I'm convinced that we can achieve more if a couple of people helped with coordinating stuff.
• Finally, the Wikimedia Foundation has asked me to spread the word about their latest survey: Universal Code of Conduct Survey. The goal is to create a safer environment on Wikimedia projects and the Foundation gathers feedback prior to coming up with a first draft.

Hope to see you at the Zoom meeting in September!

All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 19:08, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Reminder: User Group Meeting this Saturday

Dear Commons Photographers User Group member,

This is a quick reminder that our second virtual meeting will take place this Saturday, September 26. The agenda entails presentations about drone photography, about the story behind a featured picture, and about the future of LRMediaWiki. We'll also discuss photographers’ contacts with the Wikimedia Foundation and the election of representatives for our user group. You'll find information about all of this on the event page:

• Virtual Meeting on September 26, 2020

I'm also inviting you to share some information about yourself and your photography work with other members of the user group on our new membership list:

• Comprehensive membership list

I hope you're well during these difficult times. All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 00:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Your email

Hi Rodhullandemu, Just wanted to let you know that I saw your email and replied, in case you haven't seen it. —Percival Kestreltail (talk) 13:12, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

@Kestreltail: I have, thanks. Rodhullandemu (talk) 14:13, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

File:YorkQuizBook.jpg

File:YorkQuizBook.jpg has been marked as a possible copyright violation. Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content—that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, for any purpose. Traditional copyright law does not grant these freedoms, and unless noted otherwise, everything you find on the web is copyrighted and not permitted here. For details on what is acceptable, please read Commons:Licensing. You may also find Commons:Copyright rules useful, or you can ask questions about Commons policies at the Commons:Help desk. If you are the copyright holder and the creator of the file, please read Commons:But it's my own work! for tips on how to provide evidence of that. The file you added may soon be deleted. If you have written permission from the copyright holder, please replace the copyvio tag with {{subst:OP}} and have them send us a free license release via COM:VRT. If you disagree that the file is a copyright violation for any other reason, please replace the copyvio tag with a regular deletion request. This file is a copyright violation for the following reason: Book cover with no indication of being non-copyrighted Warning: Wikimedia Commons takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

 

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 08:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

No, it's my own book. Do you want me to post the title page with my name on it? Rodhullandemu (talk) 08:35, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

If you hold the copyright, that's great - but we need WP:OTRS system to prove this is the case. Please send them the related documents, see Commons:Email templates for an easy template you can quickly fill in and send their way. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 08:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Circus posters

I have to ask you why you have only added deletion request to the circus posters that I have uploaded? There are many similar posters at Category:Circus posters by country yet you have not asked for many of these to be deleted even though many would be covered under the criterion that you have stated on your request? Do you have a problem with me? Because it certainly feels like it. If you are concered about the copyright, then with all the similar images, I suggest thet you go through them and add deletion requests as apropriate, to the other images. Kolforn (talk) 08:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

They are the only ones that stuck out as being obvious copyvios. As you already know, I do a great deal of work here, as do you. I am not required to be either consistent or complete in anything I do, although I do strive to be both, but my time on this planet is severely limited. If I were still an Admin, I would just have speedily deleted them as copyvios, but I'm not, so at least you get a chance to defend them. As I go about taking photographs, it is entirely frustrating that I cannot take some photographs of things that should be recorded, i.e. street art, but I am aware of copyrights. Cheers. Rodhullandemu (talk) 08:53, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

I won’t be defending them as you are correct as far as copyright is concerned for the circus posters which is a shame as they are artworks in themselves, although the image of the entrance has an argument to keep but we will have to see what happens with that. If and when they are deleted then there is work to do with many of the other circus posters, apart from the vintage USA posters as they seem to have gone out of copyright in America. The 3 posters and 1 entrance in Category:Circus posters in Spain in particular must come under the Copy-vio. Regards Kolforn (talk) 10:54, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Well, we have a bigger problem with pub signs, particularly those uploaded by Geographbot. There are maybe thousands of them, and I will nominate them as I see them, but my attention is elsewhere at present. Cheers.

RRS Sir David Attenborough

Hi Rodhullandemu Nice set of photographs of the RRS Sir David Attenborough at Liverpool Cruise Terminal. Is Liverpool her home port? Kolforn (talk) 09:05, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

@Kolforn: Thanks, her home port is Port Stanley, Falklands. She was built at Cammell Laird across the river from Liverpoool. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:02, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	For your excellent efforts to help Wikimedia Commons! Thank you! Prahlad (talk to me / what I've done) 03:39, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Commons Photographers User Group meeting on Saturday

Dear Commons Photographers User Group member,

I'd like to invite you to our next virtual meeting on Saturday, December 12. We'll have two presentations: Habib Mhenni aka Dyolf77 will answer the question Do "we" need DSLRs anymore? and Martin Falbisoner will walk us through the making of his featured picture File:Caribbean_Sea_-_Long_Exposure.jpg.

If you can make it, please add your name to the list of attendees to this page:

• Virtual Meeting on December 12, 2020

I hope to see you in three days. Also, I wish you, your family, and your friends all the best for 2021. Your contributions to Commons make a big difference.

Warmly, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 14:27, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

My apologies to you!

Hello,

For Category:Mississippi populated places on the Mississippi River, I used your suggested category Category:Populated places on the Mississippi River in Mississippi (state), not wrongfully I hope. I also apologize to you for any statements I made that seemed harsh to you. I haven't jumped into situations and reacted that way before and don't want to start. I'm sorry. Krok6kola (talk) 15:43, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

@Krok6kola: That's OK, no offence taken. I think Category:Populated places on the Mississippi River in Mississippi (state) fits in well with the existing structure in Category:Populated places on the Mississippi River. Rodhullandemu (talk) 15:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Christmas lights on Monk Bar, York

Merry Christmas, Rodhullandemu. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:39, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Malcolmxl5: Thanks and the same to you. Monk Bar makes me want to get back to York next year. Rodhullandemu (talk) 22:02, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Your most memorable shot 2020

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

Over the course of the past two years, we've been sharing pictures that have a special meaning with each other at the start of the new year. Today, I'm inviting you add your most memorable shot of 2020 to this page:

• Your most memorable shot 2020

I hope you, your familiy, and your friends are well during these difficult times. I wish you all the best for 2021 and I can't wait to see what your most memorable shot of 2020 looks like.

Warmly, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 20:56, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry...

...to read your have as serious health issues, please take care of yourself, --A.Savin 01:39, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Next Commons Photographers meeting featuring large format photographer Ben Horne

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

I'm happy to invite you to our next virtual meeting on Saturday, March 20, at the usual time. As I mentioned during our last get-together, I'd like to invite external guests every now and then, given that it seems good to expand our view and learn something from someone outside our community.

Our first external guest, Ben Horne, will talk about large format wilderness photography, followed by a question-and-answer session. Ben is maybe one of best known contemporary large format photographers in the United States. On his excursions to national parks, he shoots 8×10 film and talks about his adventures on his YouTube channel which has attracted more than 48,000 followers so far. He is YouTube's first, and longest active landscape photography vlogger and I'm thrilled that he has agreed to join our next meeting and talk about his experiences.

If you're interested in joining this meeting, please sign up on the page below:

• Virtual Meeting on March 20, 2020

Also, don't forget to post your question(s) prior to the meeting on the following page in order to ensure a good and fruitful question-and-answer session:

• Questions for Ben

I'm very much looking forward to this event and I hope you'll be able to join.

All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 21:58, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

My error on Category:Pictures by Macieklew

You may have seen a large number of reversions for pages and photographs in Category:Pictures by Macieklew. I was trying to help put only photographs by the user into that category. However, when I used HotCat on their user page, to my distress, it put linked pages also into the category! I quickly cleaned up the mess I made.

Apologies for causing your notifications to fill up with spurious warnings. Let me know if you'd like me to do something else. — hike395 (talk) 06:55, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Hike395: No problem. Did you use the "Undo" button on HotCat? That's the quickest way of fixing mistakes. Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:26, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

My mistake. CataLot has an Undo button. HotCat doesn't. So much for editing pre-coffee! Rodhullandemu (talk) 08:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

My mistake also -- I committed the error with Cat-a-lot, and cleaned up with HotCat. I had already navigated off the user's page, back to the category, when I noticed the mistake. I suspect it was too late for Undo at that point. But it's a good tip. — hike395 (talk) 17:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Reminder: Commons Photographers meeting tomorrow

Just a quick reminder: the meeting with large format-photographer Ben Horne will happen tomorrow, Saturday, March 20. If you haven't done yet, please consider signing up for the event and add your questions to this page. This will be our first virtual meeting in 2021 and I'd be super happy if you could join. All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 16:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

mail

I do not receive Wikimedia emails. Please post on my user page if you wish. Charlesjsharp (talk) 11:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

@Charlesjsharp If you don't receive Wikimedia emails, how do you know who sent them? Rodhullandemu (talk) 15:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Did you waste time?

Sorry you feel that way. Try to keep track of discussion about your nominations if possible. You didn't reply to my remark in 6 days, so nothing happened.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:37, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

• Not your fault. CharlesJSharpe's criticisms wear me down and I try to fight that. I took the whole heavy kit of tripod, pan head, L-bracket there on public transport and still it's not good enough. I'm 68 today and too tired to argue. Certainly not a mountain goat any more. I do what I can. Luckily, it will soon be over. Rodhullandemu (talk) 22:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, well

Finally, someone who may be able to explain to me how to change the lead/featured image. I assume you changed the lead image (image on the upper right) of this page to yours [4]. How is that done? If one tries to edit the page that image is not listed. Thanks -- Jim Evans (talk) 23:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

The image is on the Wikidata page inserted by {{Wikidata infobox}}. If you click on the Q-number on that box, that takes you to it, and there is an editable "image" field. Easy once you know! Rodhullandemu (talk) 06:27, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. And thank you for supporting my flower. By the way, though I can't remember how close I was to the flower, given the amount I had to crop to get that image, I must have been further away than many of my flower pictures. That is, I wasn't all that close. -- Jim Evans (talk) 16:21, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

WP:ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:58, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

@Charlesjsharp: There is not. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

• No, not yet. The rules state that I must notify you first and I may have used the wrong template. I am trying to work out the correct process. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:05, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

@Charlesjsharp: If you read COM:Dispute resolution you are also bound to try and resolve the problem inter partes before going to any ANI board. Where's that? Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:07, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

I hope this is the right place Commons:Village_pump#May_01. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:11, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

OK, no problem. I am aware from your home page and recent posts that you are very ill.
Will you please 1. Apologise on each of the 4 VIC nomination pages suggesting harassment; half-baked opinions; harassment; implying deliberate provocation for your intemperate language. 2. Desist from using personal insults in future. Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Let's do a deal. You agree to treat my nominations even-handedly, considering you've never ever supported them, only ever opposed. You agree to leave me alone and stop putting my health at further risk. I know I'm not going to make 70 but I would like to get through this weekend. Blood pressure, you know. But I will give you a Priti Patel/Noel Clarke apology: I'm sorry that you feel I've insulted you. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:29, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

• I believe in the integrity of VI. Where I believe scopes are incorrect I will usually make a suggestion first, then oppose if it is ignored. I do this with all nominations, not just yours. From the comments of other editors, my objections to your gravestone noms. have some merit. There is no excuse for your language, however victimized you may feel. Charlesjsharp (talk) 11:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

• So do I, but it's not meant to be a religion. The criteria are not meant to be so tight. I've changed one scope at your suggestion, assisted by Archeo's opinion. Meanwhile, on all four noms, your opposition is the minority view, failing the arrival of a bunch of be-torched and be-pitchforked peasants from Wikipedia. Doesn't that tell you something? You're welcome to withdraw your opposition. Meanwhile, I do have a backlog of work to process. Rodhullandemu (talk) 11:45, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

• You explained that I was 'bound to try and resolve the problem'. I think I have done that. Will you please 1. Apologise on one of the VIC nomination pages 2. Desist from using personal insults in future? Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the next stage is that I can post at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems Charlesjsharp (talk) 12:04, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

•  Done Rodhullandemu (talk) 12:22, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

• A less-than-fullsome apology, but I have withdrawn my oppose as a gesture of goodwill even though you only have the surname in the scope. Charlesjsharp (talk) 13:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

File:Appenzell_St_Mauritius_tower_20210528.jpg in CR of Quality image candidates

Hi Rodhullandemu/Archive 5, you declined this image even though you added your opposing vote today. However, an image should be promoted or declined only at least 48 h after the last vote. Therefore, I changed the status back to /Discuss. With best regards --Robert Flogaus-Faust (talk) 18:18, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

@Robert Flogaus-Faust: OK, thanks. I changed the numbers of votes and the template said "Declined", so I just followed that. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:20, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

File:Waiting room at Earlestown railway station 1.jpg

Hi Rodhullandemu,

Please don't take my comments regarding your image personally - rather see them as a criticism of the way the project is going as a whole. In my view, 50% of a VI should be attributed to the photograph itself and 50% to the supporting documentation.

Best regards Martinvl (talk) 14:02, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Blackcat

I noticed this user was causing disagreement with you with his pov pushing. He also started edit warring at Category:Wembley Stadium restarting his obscure crusade against the word Stadium, I felt I had to report it at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems because his actions have got out of hand in the past Oxyman (talk) 20:45, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

License

Hi, I would like to know if I did something wrong with File:Cô Hòa-Vân trong bộ y-phục tân-thời mùa thu của Lemur, 1938.jpg? I removed {{self|cc-by-sa-4.0}} because while the uploader claims to be the author, it was actually from an external website. — LX | Talk 10:11, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

^{[Lệ Xuân]} OK, the problem was you deleted "==Licensing==" which is important for different language versions, and the licensing was actually in the permission field. I've fixed it now. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:15, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Tks for explaining LX | Talk 13:02, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Copyright

Hello, I’m keen to resolve the copyright issues you have highlighted. I’m relatively new to this and want to get it right. Any help you can give would be gratefully received, particularly with regard to how I properly acknowledge copyright of photos already in the public domain. Thanks. 24may1819 (talk) 13:43, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@24may1819: Very few photographs younger than 70 years old are going to be public domain. You should cite the source they are taken from and if possible its date of publication. Scanning a photo from anywhere does not make it your "own work". In the case of the maps, if they are free of copyright or properly licensed (like OpenStreetMap), thay may be used as the basis of overlays. But one think you should not do is remove copyright warnings, to protect our legal position. Hope that helps. Rodhullandemu (talk) 16:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

@Rodhullandemu: Thanks so much for that - I have also read the Wikipedia copyright idiots guide. I didn’t realise the scope of the implications of adding photos. I will be much more careful in future! 24may1819 (talk) 10:32, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikipediocracy

I'm sure you didn't miss it, but in case you did, the post on Wikipediocracy where Beeblebrox says "gross" will be quite easy to present as evidence that he is motivated by homophobia, and pretty hard to deny he is not. Borgo Dobo (talk) 16:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I did miss it. Wikipediocracy is populated by losers with twisted minds, so I don't bother with them. I'm sure WMF T&S will have taken a look, though. Rodhullandemu (talk) 16:45, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Make sure you chase this up. Make sure they acknowledge receipt of the report, and tell you exactly who is responsible for investigating it, who their manager is, and how long they expect to take. The WMF has undergone lots of structural and personnel changes recently, so it would be easy for this to just slip through the cracks. And make sure you inform them that Beeblebrox only has a few months left on his current term as an Arb. Stress the importance of the English Wikipedia community knowing who they're potentially voting for in December, should he feel emboldened by the lack of community action over his personal attacks on Fae on and off site, to actually stand again. Borgo Dobo (talk) 17:13, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

• Interesting. I wonder why I can't hear what people have to say to me. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but something is rotten in the state of somewhere. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Your edit

Hi you did this edit and by it removing my promotion of an illustration. Could you please explain why? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 20:45, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

@Goran tek-en: I didn't remove it. I moved it to the bottom of the list, where new nominations should go. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:48, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, my mistake to put it at the top. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 21:35, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Jesse Hartley

Nice photo of the Salisbury Dock entrance walls. Hartley really deserves his addition to cyclopean masonry. Any chance you have a photo of his famous steps at Brunswick Half-Tide too? Andy Dingley (talk) 21:40, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley: Not that I know of, and I'll check tomorrow if I have time but it is Heritage Week and I'm quite literally all over the place for the next 10 days. Rodhullandemu (talk) 21:45, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh, what – things are open?? Like Doors Open Day, as they celebrated that back in the Before Times? Imagine that. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:04, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley: It's mostly listed buildings especially churches but there's also a Masonic Hall, Bidston Observatory and the Bluecoat School. 41 trips listed but I only expect I'll manage about 20. Rodhullandemu (talk) 22:24, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley: Brunswick Half-Tide dock has been filled in, and the steps lost, or at least I can't see any trace of them on Google Earth. Rodhullandemu (talk) 08:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

• Im thinking of these: [5] [6] – pretty sure they're specifically listed. They're just a nice example of his cyclopean style. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:38, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

@Andy Dingley: , OK, thanks to Jan Ford, I've located these to the sea wall between Brunswick Half-Tide and South Ferry Basin. Still there. Calder's photo is obviously the best view, but it's from the river and the ferry does not pass there as it's too far south of its journey. Strangely, not listed by Historic England, but I'll go and have a look when I get the chance. Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:28, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Du machst alles richtig

• You're doing everything wrong, correct is Cat Magellan (ship, 1991), kapierst?--PjotrMahh1 (talk) 08:56, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

So why didn't you leave an edit summary saying so? I am not psychic. Rodhullandemu (talk) 08:57, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

@PjotrMahh1: And it's still wrong. You need to change the dates on the filenames to the correct ship. Again, I'm not pyschic and neither is anyone else. Rodhullandemu (talk) 08:59, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Wait, I have the second case at the moment, this one: File:Eurodam Flag Tallinn 12 July 2013.jpg, deleted, 6 September 2021, in the corner was a small part of Tallinn TV tower, absolute Sch....., I must make fog in the corner --PjotrMahh1 (talk) 09:05, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

What has that to do with Magellan? Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:07, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

• ... that I am busy and I know the answers but can't respond fast enough, not more. To Magellan, these photos are mine and I use general format for all my ship photos:

Rules are here How to create a category for a ship,
B. How to name the category
The general format for category titles is "<name of ship> (ship, <year>)". <year> is the year the ship was completed, see Category:Ships by year built for further information. Samples: "Golden Hind (ship, 1973)" or "Pacific Dawn (ship, 1991)". Non-profi users make Magellan in Tallinn, Magellan in Sea, Magellan at Quay, Magellan off Island. After that I don't see all the photos at a glance on the one page. The cruise ships have more than 20 locations in the year (more than enough),--PjotrMahh1 (talk) 09:28, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Stop telling me stuff I already know. The fact that they are "yours" is irrelevant, see COM:OWN. In all topics it is usual not to overload main category pages with, say, 100s of images, becasue we should have some respect for those looking for images they want to use. For all ships, it's usual to structure them, for instance, by ports they are seen at. If you want to see *all* instances of a ship, maintain your own categories please, but don't strain our user's patience by showing then an unstructured mass of images. Not sure what you mean by "non profi"; if you mean non-professional, that applies to all of us here. If you mean unprofessional, that's an unwarranted personal attack on those who mean well but aren't familiar with subtle ways we have here. That's why it's up to us to tidy up these categories- when we're not doing our own work- and I suggest you stop being busy, there is plenty of time to get things right, and to follow what everybody else does. The alternative is anarchy, and we don;t do anarchy. I have to go out and take some photos. Please take the time to consider doing things the correct way, especially avoiding overcategorisation. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:32, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

• You're doing everything correct,--PjotrMahh1 (talk) 06:06, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

"perfectly valid refusal since the link is to correct filename which doesn't depend on the hash"

Any rule contains that bizarre content?. --Janiclett (talk) 02:56, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

No idea why you complain. This is not something to get upset about. Leave it. Rodhullandemu (talk) 08:31, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Your edit on QI

Hi, you made an edit commons:Quality_images_candidates/candidate_list#September_8,_2021 on this image Sutton Hoo helmet design 2-reconstructed-known. I did write info there but I'm not sure you will see it. Could you please explain why it not meet the standards of an QI? Also what do you mean by "which wouldn't have it anyway"? --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

• @Goran tek-en: I was replying to F. Riedelio, who complained that it has no EXIF data. I pointed out that an SVG file doesn't have EXIF data, so doesn't need it to comply with the QI standards. Hope that helps. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:20, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I totally misunderstood you, I didn't understand and thought it was towards me. --please ping me-- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:26, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

WMF grants

I wanted to ask you this early September but forgot to. Anyhow, I know that you are from the UK and sometimes worked with user "Fæ", Fæ did really important work with the Internet Archive's digital library and seemed to have stopped editing after some negative comments when they asked for money to continue their noble project. I have seen many users get small grants from the WMF for much, much smaller projects and I know that Fæ was an OTRS member until they were ArbCom banned from the English-language Wikipedia after sockpuppetry (even though they were the one being bullied) and even after their unban they were unable to ever successfully apply for the OTRS / VTRS ever again despite doing so annually. My impression is that users that are currently indefinitely blocked or have ever been indefinitely blocked on any Wikimedia website are automatically ineligible for WMF help in any way shape or form, is that correct?

I am asking you because you were an admin here for years at the same time while being ArbCom banned and saw how someone brought this against you at an AN discussion some months ago, so maybe you might know if my suspicions are correct. As it makes me wonder that if someone like for example user "Yann" would do the exact same thing with the IABooks that they might have received a grant. Honestly, I do wish that it would be easier for user "Fæ" to get money for this project and if they were still active I would have asked them to ask the Internet Archives themselves for cash as I believe they give money to that external links person. Anyhow, I hope that I haven't offended you asking this. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 09:22, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

You have to remember that sometimes people who contribute to these projects are perhaps a bit obsessed, perhaps a bit nerdy, and out of kilter with normal society. I am, but then I have seen "normal society" and would live without it if I could. Having said that, the Wikimedia projects should be human enough to tolerate idiosyncrasies unless they are realistically dangerous. That's why my ArbCom ban is indefensible by any standard and should have been overturned by @Jimbo Wales: . Unfortunately, he missed the point completely and set forth a series of conditions for my return to Wikipedia which were not realistically achievable. In terms of governance, it's a bit of a beauty contest who gets elected to adminship, ArbCom, etc, and as so often in the real world, the scum rises to the top as it does in a polluted river. My desysop here was another travesty, because nobody bothered to see it from my point of view, and anyone who voted for that can expect no respect from me. The result is, they lost a good vandal-fighter and copyright monitor.

I am sorry to see Fae leave (if this is permanent), but I am reminded of Jo Brand's comment about female harassment: "It may only be little things, but it builds up, it wears you down, and tires you out so eventually you just give up fighting". He's another victim of the "however much good work you do, we don't like you" syndrome, all too common on the WMF projects I've seen much of. I have heard nothing back from WMF about the complaint I submitted about Fae's treatmenr, but sadly I am not surprised, beacuse they are fucking useless about understanding the damage that sort of thing can do, and how it will eventually reflect badly on them and their desire for blandness from their contributors. I expect they'll block me for that, but then again, that would make my point for me. Rodhullandemu (talk) 11:24, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

I very much agree with you, an issue I see is that "All contributors can be replaced" and the compatibility of personalities between contributors and "the community" is 100% (one-hundred percent) the responsibility of whomever is being disadvantaged. I am skeptical of the WMF's "solutions" as the list of globally banned users seem to be ever expanding and the idea behind the UCOC could essentially be "be perceived to misbehave on one (1) project get banned for life from all" and judging on what Sasha Krassotkin told a friend of mine about his ban he had no notifications, no warnings, no trial, and still has no idea why he was banned, an admin and bureaucrat and a VTRS member just gone within a few seconds without even knowing why. I don't think that it's the "nerdy" culture of Wikimedia websites that caused this, I have been a member of a lot of nerdy communities both on- and offline and these are usually very accepting and inclusive and if you did something a few years ago you could be given second (2nd) chances, I just don't see the same here. The gender gap seems to be caused wholly by this exclusive culture, this is why female contributors are less likely to stay because unless they share the Disagreeable personality of "the community" they won't feel "at home" here. I really like the welcome-bot here because most "first messages" users get here are unwelcoming deletion templates because most novice users don't fully understand the rules yet because copyright © is complicated. Imagine if the only welcome users received was "your images have been nominated for deletion".

Anyhow, I don't like being too critical of the WMF as I have had a recurring nightmare where I turn on my telephone to be greeted by a WMF Global Ban notice, something which I have dreamt several times of since Krassotkin. I believe that the system needs reform to be more forgiving and to focus more on rehabilitation of blocked users for their inclusion rather than blanket exclusion, often based on transgressions a decade old or older. I think that indefinite blocks should de facto expire after a few years, most sock hunting I see isn't actually against abuse (vandals and other abusers get blocked on sight and rarely tagged per "WP:DENY"), but then again, in the current Exclusionist environment such reforms are either impossible or near impossible. I am just glad that we don't have a "ONESTRIKE" rule like the Simple English-language Wikipedia.

I don't know how your relationship with Sasha was, I just find it sad that he neither knows why he was banned and that he can't appeal, I often came across his contributions and will miss him. Even more so for Fæ, I don't think that the Wikimedia Commons has ever had a more valuable contributor and a healthy community would find ways for people like them to make their jobs easier, not insult them when they ask for help. I hope that they are just on a WikiBreak due to WikiFatigue and didn't WikiLeave. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:20, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Commons Photographers meeting on October 30th

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

I'm happy to invite you to our next virtual meeting next Saturday,  October 30. This time, our colleagues User:Dey.sandip from India and User:Ermell from Germany will talk about their work.

If you're interested in joining this meeting, please sign up on the page below:

• 5th virtual meeting of the Commons Photographers User Group

I'm very much looking forward to this event and I hope you'll be able to join.

All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 18:59, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Richard dadd, il colpo da maestro del cantastorie, 1855-64, 02.jpg

I thought that crops could be deleted as not useful, just like any other file. And this file is not in use, so it is worth a discussion. Why did you close the request early? Brianjd (talk) 07:46, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

We do not usually delete different versions of files simply for that reason and we do not know if it is used on a website outside Wikimedia. HTH. Rodhullandemu (talk) 09:03, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Commons Photographers User Group: first board election

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

In preparation of the first board election of our group, I invite you to take a look at the following page:

• Commons:Commons Photographers User Group/Board Elections 2021

and provide feedback. I've listed a number of positions for our first board and I've also outlined a possible timeline for the elections. The current plan is to open the self-nomination process up on November 15 and then have the election start on December 1.

I'm super excited to get this going and I'm very much looking forward to hearing from you. Please use this talk page for your thoughts.

I hope you're safe and well, and I wish you all the best! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 23:56, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Stop it, Get some help.

Did you realize when deleting my art called "Electromagnetic waves are bad 4 u" its comedic art? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawico666 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

1, I didn't delete it.

2, As an attempt at factual information, it was a failure.

3, As a parody of anything, it was also a failure.

4, I don't need help. You do.

HTH. Rodhullandemu (talk) 23:51, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Commons Photographers elections: self-nomination phase is open

Dear member of the Commons Photographers User Group,

The self-nomination phase for the first board election of our group is open as of today. If you'd like to take on a more active role and take our user group to the next level, please consider running for one of the open positions. Please check out the Board Election 2021 page for more details.

I hope you, your family, and your friends are doing well. All the best! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 16:40, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Ships in Liverpool

You asked: Why the move? Ships are not inland. The River Mersey is not "in" Liverpool? The answer is to bring the category in line with the other categories. You'll find categories "Ships in" or "Ships of". If it is not correct, thousands of categories have to be renamed. For the Mersey it can be different. --Stunteltje (talk) 10:53, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

OK. I've always seen "<ship> berthed AT <port>" but if everyting else says otherwise... Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:57, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

A goat for you!

Hang on in there! (A goat, because they had run out of trouts!)

-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 13:14, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Valued Image Promoted

★ Your nomination has been reviewed and promoted ★
Congratulations! The image you nominated was reviewed and has now been promoted as a valued image. It is considered to be the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Northeast Lodge, Halsnead Park.
If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Valued images candidates.

review

•  Support Useful & used. If you think it's worth the trip, it's always good. However? The car is disturbing.--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 05:52, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

 Comment Thanks. I met the couple who live here two years ago, and they are not at all friendly. They are older, i.e. my sort of age, so I guess retired and don't drive to work, only going out during the day for their shopping. This is right out in the country 11 miles from where I live and it takes a bus, a train and a long walk from the station to get here. So I'm not just going to "pop by" on the off chance. I'm certainly not going to negotiate a muddy, windy, rainy field and skulk behind a windbreak of trees for hours until they move that car. Having said that, cars are an occupational hazard for VI/QI noms. There is one address on Rodney Street, Liverpool that had an ambulance parked right in front of it for ten months, but eventually it was moved and I was able to get the photo. I started counting through my VIs and found 25 with cars partially obscuring the subject, but I gave up counting about 1/3 into the 1600, so clearly it's not fatal to a VI. Not your fault, I know, but I do despair of reviewers who carp about that cars in blase way, and to them I say, "you come here and do better. I do what I can." Thanks. Rodhullandemu (talk) 11:42, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

• Note: I have the feeling you are offended by me. I will never willfully offend anyone!--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 17:59, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Absolutely not, Agnes. It's people with unreasonable expectations of me that are offensive. Rodhullandemu (talk) 19:25, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Result: 1 support, 0 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:13, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

--VICBot2 (talk) 00:21, 1 December 2021 (UTC)