Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests

Current requests

File:Prince Louis (carriage window crop) 2024.jpg

There was no consensus in favour of deletion. The larger file from which it was cropped (and the series of which that file was part) remains in place unchallenged. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 16:54, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@Robin S. Taylor, It would be good of you to link the larger file which you indicate was uploaded while the license was valid, since I can't find that in the file history of the deleted file. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 17:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Comment: There may be a basis for discussion, although not for the reason stated in the request. From its logs, it looks like the file "Prince Louis (carriage window crop) 2024.jpg" was uploaded to Commons on 22 June 2024 and was sourced directly from flickr. As such, it was under the CC NC-ND license on flickr. The only argument to keep that was made in the deletion discussion was that seven days before the upload to Commons, the flickr photo had, very briefly, a CC BY license. That could not be a valid argument to keep the file, based only on the facts presented in the DR. The deletion decision is correct based on those facts. However, you mention the larger image "File:Trooping the Colour 2024 (GovPM 26).jpg" (currently sourced from the wrong flickr page), uploaded to Commons on 15 June 2024, which brings an interesting aspect, because the chronology gets much more compressed and because it seems to have exif data that are apparently not displayed on the flickr page. The chronology goes like this. Everything happened on 15 June 2024. The photo was taken at 12:19 (UTC or UTC+1 assumed). The photo was uploaded to flickr at some unknown time apparently very briefly under CC BY, the license was almost immediately set to CC NC-ND at 13:40 UTC, and the file was uploaded to Commons at 21:14 UTC. Even with that compressed timeline, the upload to Commons still occurred after the license was already CC NC-ND at the flickr source used. (And the fact that the license was CC BY for only a few minutes suggests that it may not have been intentional.) However the exif data on Commons display these usage terms : "Usage terms: This image is for Editorial use purposes only. The Image can not be used for advertising or commercial use. The Image can not be altered in any form. All images are Crown copyright and re-usable under the Open Government Licence v3.0, except where otherwise stated. To view this licence, visit: https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/ Pictures marked as the copyright of a third party may only be re-used with permission from the rights holder." That sounds like the restrictions exclude the OGL. -- Asclepias (talk) 18:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

To closing admin: if the license on the original file was valid when it was uploaded, then this file should be restored, since that one is the source. If not, we should obviously delete that one as well. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 17:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

File:Trooping the Colour 2024 (GovPM 27).jpg

This was the source file.

The copyright on UK Government photographs is often confusing and contradictory, but the impression I've garnered over the past few months is that all the files copied to the Government Flickr Archive are automatically covered by that site's general licence even if the information for a specific image says otherwise, and indeed that the Number 10 Flickr account's general statement on image usage trumps whatever may be applied to individual pictures (hence Wikimedia having a dedicated licence tag for that). My general impression for a long time has also been that once a copyright-holder has released some intellectual property under any Creative Commons (or equivalent) declaration then they cannot revoke said declaration later, so if there are multiple contradictory official notices for the same photograph then we should take the most permissive one as correct.

I agree that it "may not have been intentional" for whichever government employees actually operate the Flickr accounts to initially release under one licence and then change after a few minutes, but then I'm not sure what those people's intentions have ever been because different images on those accounts are under a smorgasbord of different tags with no apparent rhyme or reason behind them. To take one example, a large number of coronation photographs from last year (and a smattering of other ones for many years before that) uploaded to Flickr under the Public Domain Mark rather than the Public Domain Dedication and eventually the community decided to treat them as the same, realising that in many cases the uploaders themselves didn't know the difference. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 19:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@Robin S. Taylor: 1. About the CC license, you may be confusing the notion of "cessation to offer a license at a source" with the notion of "revocation of a license already granted". Please see the Creative Commons FAQ for more details. 2. On principle, the specific conditions trump the general conditions. 3. The mention of a dedicated license tag for Number 10 relates to Template talk:Number-10-flickr, and the previous decisions might be worth exploring to see if you can find something there. -- Asclepias (talk) 21:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

 Oppose First please note that

File:Prince Louis (carriage window crop) 2024.jpg is not extracted from

File:Trooping the Colour 2024 (GovPM 26).jpg

While the two are similar, the pattern of rain drops is different and in the first, the hair is surrounded by white from the opposite window while in the larger image the hair is surrounded by black. On the other hand

File:Trooping_the_Colour_2024_(GovPM_27).jpg, is the source image. This has a CC-BY-NC-ND 2.0 license so both the subject image and the larger one cannot be kept here.

.     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 19:31, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

You've just unilaterally deleted another image within fifteen minutes of seeing it and with no deletion discussion nor acknowledgement of anything I said about it. This is unacceptable. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 20:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@Robin S. Taylor I am willing to give the benefit fo the doubt, however, those two pictures, while uploaded under a CC-BY license, were changed within a day to the by-nc-nd license. What that tells me is that the license they were uploaded with was incorrect, and they corrected it within a reasonable amount of time. What we don't do here at Wikimedia Commons is play "gotcha" with people who have uploaded under erroneous licenses. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 20:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@Jim, the other one has the same license problems as the ones already deleted. I've put that one in a DR. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 20:53, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Reopened per request. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 21:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for leaving it open for a little while. Although the part about the CC license is settled, it seems that the part about the OGL might need to be addressed, in light of Template talk:Number-10-flickr, listing some keep decisions for other cases. -- Asclepias (talk) 21:17, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes, apparently the metadata states the OGL, but does that supersede the Flickr license? Does Number 10 know what they are doing? Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 21:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I think that, considering the metadata is the only actual per-file licensing statement that complies with the UK government licensing framework, it should be taken as an appropriate attribution statement. Some files explicitly change their statement to remove the OGLv3 notice, which shows that there is at least some awareness of the meaning.

A Freedom of Information request and/or a Re-use of Public Sector Information Regulations request can always be made if further clarification is needed. It is worth noting that images uploaded recently have made the attribution statement just Crown copyright. Licensed under the Open Government Licence. For any of those images, a RPSI request can compel them to OGL it anyways. Isochrone (talk) 21:50, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done per discussion. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 20:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Definitely sounds like a complicated request. I deleted it since as I said in the closing message that the photograph had an unfree license at the time of upload. I agree with Jim that CC-BY was not the intended license. The OGL question is a tough one, since as mentioned above, it appears Number 10 licenses under OGL unless otherwise stated. CC-NC-ND is not a default on Flickr so it feels to me that it would fall under the otherwise stated. I almost feel like we should ask Number 10 about this. Abzeronow (talk) 21:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Freedom of Information request filed. I also note that, as stated here, No 10 has not obtained a delegation of authority to exempt itself from the Cabinet Office licensing framework. Isochrone (talk) 22:02, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Bastique has now withdrawn his deletion nomination for picture No. 26 based on seeing the outcomes of similar discussions. Logically it follows that No. 27 and its derivatives shouldn't be deleted either. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 23:46, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I withdrew my nomination primarily because I didn't want to separate the point of discussion for what appears to be a larger discussion. Until we come to some consensus about this, this shall remain open. Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 00:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

File:Park Sung-jae.jpg

• Previous talk: Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2024-12#File:Park Sung-jae.jpg

This photo was originally uploaded on the “Open Minister's Office”(열린장관실) homepage of the Ministry of Justice. Scroll down to the bottom and you'll notice three things.

1. “COPYRIGHTⓒ MINISTRY OF JUSTICE. REPUBLIC OF KOREA. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.” — This claim is on every website of the South Korean government, even on the page of the KOGL. This is just a general disclaimer only.
2. Logo of WebWatch in green color — A web standardization certification that has nothing to do with copyright. (It's like W3C or HTML5 logo)
3. The KOGL Type 1 logo ({{KOGL}}, File:KOGL 1.svg) — It is clearly indicates that the entire content of the this subdomain of MoJ is released under KOGL Type 1. Please note “Open Minister's Office” homepage is separated from the original homepage of MoJ. It is only accesiable by click "법무부 소개" > "장관소개" from top menu and it will be open in new tab. You can obviously see that it's separated from the original site with diffrent logo, title and web design.

Average Pennsylvanian mentioned that he couldn't be sure because each photo didn't have the KOGL logo, which is not true. Here's an example of a misuse of the KOGL logo. This is the homepage of the Office of the President. It also displays the KOGL logo(File:KOGL wordmark (Korean).svg at the bottom of the page, but it doesn't say what kind of KOGL it is at all. In this case we cannot use the image unless there is KOGL logo and specified type on each page.--Namoroka (talk) 13:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

File:Prasklina na okne auta 32.JPG

File in use at v:cs:Uživatel:Juandev/Problémy/Volkswagen Golf/III/Variant/Juandev/Nejde otevřít nádrž and might be moved to main ns in the following days. I wonder how the user could nominate this and other files for deletion if they were in use in the WMF project. How files are used in other projects might be out of scope.--Juandev (talk) 07:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose Assuming that Google translate is doing a good job here:

1. The photograph has no explanation of what it is and its file name does not match the photo at all
2. The caption for the place where the photo was used calls out a "cotter pin" but there is no cotter pin in the photo, so it is actually irrelevant to the place where it was used.

.     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

File:Antigua.news.jpg File:Antigua.news small icon.jpg

File: antigua.news.jpg File: Antigua.news small icon.jpg

Hi,

I noticed that the above files have been deleted for copyright reasons. However the owner of the images authorizes the use of them with credit and link. Both requirement have been met on the wiki page where there are used.

Please note that on antigua.news website there is this copyright message on the bottom of the page, which confirms what I wrote above:

“All contents of this site including images, texts and other assets are copyrighted and owned by Antigua.news. No contents of this site may be reproduced, altered, or distributed except you give appropriate credit and provide a link to the copyright holder, and indicate if changes were made.”

Therefore, I kindly request to undelete the images.

Thanks and regards.

--Mediascriptor (talk) 09:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose The requirement for a link cannot be met in print use, so the permission cited is not enough for Commons. These are fairly simply and probably don't have a USA copyright. We know nothing about the Threshold of Originality in Antigua, but as a former UK colony it is probably very low, so these probably have a copyright there. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Can the requirement for a link be met in print by simply including a URL in the printout? I'd hope so. In this case, that's probably moot (in the U.S. sense) because of your salient point about COM:TOO Antigua, but it's still worth a thought. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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File:Alice Prince SLATE.jpg

Please restore the following pages:

• File:Alice Prince SLATE.jpg (edit · last · history · watch · unwatch · global usage · logs · purge · w · search · links · DR · del · undel · Delinker log)

Reason: Kept per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Alice Prince SLATE.jpg, which included specific web research about the subject by User:Nakonana, but part of a batch deletion as a result of Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Dr. Alice Prince, which I just became aware of, and which gave only a generic reason for deletion. In fairness, User:TheImaCow, who started the second deletion request, should be pinged (the first was started by an IP user), as should those who closed both deletion requests: User:Sadads, User:Krd (yes, unusually, there were two closers for that thread) and User:P199. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Done: apparently, seems to be in-scope. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 07:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Reopened. I note that in one of the DRs there are a number of images which include Ms. Prince which are claimed to be {{Own}} but which are obviously not selfies -- for example: File:SLATE Alice Prince Podcast G.jpg. The subject image is also claimed to be her work, but it doesn't look like a selfie. If this were in isolation, I might be OK with it, but given the clear evidence that the uploader does not understand the meaning of {{Own}}, I think we must not restore it. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

That's a legitimate point that I did not consider. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@Jameslwoodward: I don't disagree with your thoughts. It appeared a little like selfie and I didn't had a much deeper look. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 16:54, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

@Yann: do you have any opinion on this? _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 09:22, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Jim has a point, and a VRT permission would be highly preferable. Yann (talk) 09:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

I'll go ahead a delete it then. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 09:38, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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closing as  Not done for obvious reasons. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 09:39, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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File:BlueySteven.jpg

This file has been created and drawn by me, I checked that the image didn't contain anything suspiciously against the copyright law and nothing to do with Roblox itself. I created this image in question on the animating app FlipaClip. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLordBluey (talk • contribs) 13:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

It is actually File:BlueySteven.png. If this is close enough to a commercial character to be educationally useful here, then it is a derivative work and cannot be kept here. If it it not close to a commercial character then it is personal art, which we do not keep. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Not done: as per Jim. --Yann (talk) 19:05, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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File:Tomio Otani.jpg

This photo is from a family photo album. It is not copyrighted--Finlay73 (talk) 15:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC) 8 January 2025

@Finlay73: How can it have a Creative Commons license if it is not copyrighted? Thuresson (talk) 16:47, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose 1970s or later picture of Tomio Otani, copied from Facebook. Yann (talk) 11:05, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose First, I note that you have uploaded this image three times after it was first deleted and twice after being warned not to do it again. I am surprised that you have not been blocked from editing here. If you break the rules again, you certainly will be blocked.

Second, note that all images from the UK are copyrighted from the moment of creation and that the copyright is held by the actual photographer, not the subject. This image can be restored only if the actual photographer or his heir provides a free license using VRT. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:52, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 19:06, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

File:Flag of Lunda Tchokwe.svg

This file was just deleted because it doesn't fit in TOO Angola, but the symbol in the middle is the traditional lusona symbol for antelope footprint. [1] Other than that the graphic consists of just simple rectangles and circle. Therefore the deletion was incorrect. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 17:26, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Interesting, although COM:Angola also notes that "Traditional learning and use are treated the same as literary, artistic and scientific works." I will admit that my knowledge of African symbols like this is lacking so I won't oppose restoration here. Abzeronow (talk) 21:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

I hadn't thought about it before, but the pattern probably already existed in colonial times and Portuguese law, where folk patterns are not protected, may apply. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 13:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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File:Myrie Senate Full Headshot.jpg

The file deleted is the official headshot for State Senator Zellnor Myrie as provided by the NYS Senate. I am a member of the Senator's district office staff and for years have had to correct changes made to this photo every few months. Please restore this photo as it is the Senator's only official and approved headshot image. If this needs to be discussed further, please contact me at [redacted email]--Abe.nysenate (talk) 19:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

There are two solutions here @Abe.nysenate: 1.) An authorized person can contact COM:VRT to verify a free license for the photo. 2. You can post that the photo is licensed under a Creative Commons license that we can accept (CC-BY or CC-BY-SA or CC-Zero) on your NYS Senate website. Abzeronow (talk) 21:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose Note that it is very unlikely that the Senator has the right to freely license the image as required here. The photographer may have licensed the senator's use of the photo for campaign and other publicity purposes but it is very unusual for a photographer to allow a licensee to sub-license an image for any use as required here. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:43, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

The copyright to a photograph is held by the photographer, not the subject or their district office. For this image to be undeleted, the photographer needs to contact COM:VRT with a copyright release in the approved terms. Stifle (talk) 10:02, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 12:16, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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File:nikitalorusso.jpg

Non ho fatto nulla di snagliato, sono un rapper , mi trovate ovuqnue, stavo scrivendo la biografia seguendo le vostre norme --Nikita Lorusso (talk) 23:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)Nikita Lorusso

@Nikita Lorusso your image hasn't been deleted. I don't understand. Do you want us to delete it? Bastique ^{☎ let's talk!} 23:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose COM:WEBHOST. Personal image by non contributor. Yann (talk) 10:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Machine translation of request: "I didn't do anything out of the ordinary, I'm a rapper, you can find me everywhere, I was writing the biography following your rules". I am guessing this is an attempt to appeal the deletion of w:it:Utente:Nikita Lorusso, their userpage on itwiki, which was deleted for being an inappropriate use of userspace. Stifle (talk) 10:04, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 12:16, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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File:EDLP-trofeos-copa-argentina-23-copa-liga-24.jpg

Solicito se restaure este archivo de mi autoría ​ya que los trofeos allí visualizados, entiendo, tienen los derechos de autor liberados. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cazadoroculto (talk • contribs) 10:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose Derivative work of the poster and the trophies. Yann (talk) 11:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Not done: See above. --Yann (talk) 12:16, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

File:구 제일은행 여수지점 1.jpg

• File:구 제일은행 여수지점 1.jpg
• File:구 제일은행 여수지점 2.jpg

These images are released in {{KOGL}} by Korea Heritage Service (previously known as Cultural Heritage Administration). link 1, link 2. KOGL Type 1 is a Commons-compatible license, it seems that the original uploader may have misunderstood something.--Namoroka (talk) 12:46, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Note that this building was bulit before 1942 during the Korea under Japanese rule.--Namoroka (talk) 12:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

※ko:special:diff/38476991, https://www.kogl.or.kr/info/licenseType1.do

I. 이용조건의 표시 및 변경
1. 이용자가 공공누리 저작물 활용시 출처표시를 꼭 해주셔야 합니다.
2. 공공누리 저작물의 이용조건은 변경될 수 있습니다. 다만 이용자가 이용조건 변경전 사용하셨다면 해당저작물 한해 용도변경 없이 계속 이용할 수 있습니다.

III. 공공기관의 면책
1. 공공기관은 공공저작물의 정확성이나 지속적인 제공 등을 보장하지 않습니다.
2. 공공기관 및 그 직원은 이용자가 공공저작물을 이용함으로써 발생할 수 있는 어떠한 손해나 불이익에 대해서도 책임을 지지 않습니다.

본인은 KOGL과 CCL 라이선스가 호환되지 않는다고 판단합니다.(I believe that KOGL and CCL licenses are incompatible.)
2016년 당시나, 지금 시점이나 마찬가지입니다.(It was the same in 2016 as it is now.)
본인(메이)은 '이용자'였었고 면책 대상이 아닙니다.[I(메이) am not exempt from liability]
위키미디어 공용에서 왜 KOGL이 허용되는지까지는 모르겠습니다.(I don't know why KOGL is allowed on Wikimedia Commons.)
파일을 복구하여 저를 손해나 불이익의 당사자로 만드는 것에 절대 동의할 수 없습니다.(I absolutely cannot agree to restoring those files and making me a party to any harm or disadvantage.)
영어 내용은 구글 번역 사용하여 덧붙였고, 영어로 쓴 내용은 한글로 적은 내용에 우선하지 않습니다.(The English content was added using Google Translate, and the content written in English does not take precedence over the content written in Korean.)

감사합니다.(Thank you.)-- 메이 (토론) 16:58, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Well, okay. This user believes that KOGL is not a free license. There was a lengthy discussion about KOGL long time ago. However, KOGL is still an accepted license here in Commons, and personal beliefs are irrelevant. If this user does not wish to upload files under his/her own name, please allow me to upload the files instead.--Namoroka (talk) 17:38, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

File:문재인 대통령, 2018 평창패럴림픽대회 선수단 출정식 참석 2018-03-02.jpg

This file was deleted through deletion requests but it was released in {{KOGL}} Type 1 in 2 March 2018 by the Blue House of South Korea. (archived link) KOGL is non-revocable. {{Change-of-KOGL}} This file was first uploaded on Commons in 7 March 2018, only four days later.-Namoroka (talk) 12:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

The mascot character in the background seems to be fine under COM:DM.--Namoroka (talk) 15:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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File:NiloferQureshi.jpg

I am writing to request the undeletion of an image I previously uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. The image in question was taken by me using my equipment, and I am the sole owner of its copyright. I am granting free use of this image to the public, including for its use and upload on my new wiki profile. Additionally, I have emailed the appropriate channels to confirm my release of rights for this image but have not received a response yet. --Niloq (talk) 22:05, 9 January 2025 (UTC) Nilofer Qureshi 1/9/2025

@Niloq: There is no file by that name, and you have no deleted file. Yann (talk) 22:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

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Already done: File uploaded, which looks like a selfie. --Yann (talk) 09:44, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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File:Cirrocumulus sin halo.jpg

La tiré de mi casa, no tiene derecho a ser borrado.

Supercellofphoto (talk) 23:52, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi, You also uploaded File:January 3, 2025 Tehama EFU tornado.png with the information

|source=Yahoo |author=FCSanDiego

Yann (talk) 09:46, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Done EXIF is consistent with their other uploads. @Yann: The deleted photo shows that they are honest about the source of their uploads. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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File:Ramkripalyadavg (cropped).jpg

Please undelete — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yohhh (talk • contribs) 16:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

 Oppose @Yohhh: you need to provide a reason to undelete, and please don't reupload the same image under a different name. Günther Frager (talk) 16:56, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

For the record: Category:Sockpuppets of RAMKRIPALYADAVGO --Achim55 (talk) 18:32, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Not done: Commons is not your personal webhost. _Regards, Aafi ^(talk) 17:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

File:Sanshokuki2.svg

The symbol in the center (the reason for the file's prior deletion) may be too simple to exceed COM:TOO Japan. HapHaxion _{(talk / contribs)} 16:36, 10 January 2025 (UTC)