Talk:Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna of Russia (1890–1958)
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A Few Corrections
Marie's stepmother did not use the surname Paley until she was created a princess by Nicholas II shortly before World War I.
Marie's business in Paris after the revolution was called Kitmir and produced very high-quality machine embroidery which was mostly used by the great Paris fashion house of Chanel. Marie never operated or owned a dress shop, though she made most of her own clothes for a considerable time, and also took in orders from friends.
In her memoirs, Marie maintained that her embroideries were of the highest quality. The business eventually failed because it was under capitalized and Marie knew next to nothing about how to run a business.
RogerInPDX 03:50, 14 April 2007 (UTC)RogerInPDX
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I removed this box from the website. It should be re-added, however, the problem is, that when this table is in the article, the entire article ends up in the box. I can't figure out how to fix it, hopefully one of you can. Mulder1982 10:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna of Russia | |
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| Born | April 18, 1890 |
| Died | December 13, 1958 |
| Children | Prince Lennart, Duke of Småland (1909-2004) and Prince Roman Putiatin (1918-1919) |
| Parent(s) | Grand Duke Paul Alexandrovich of Russia and Alexandra Georgievna of Greece |
Why such a long article name?
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 16:46, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna of Russia (1890–1958) → Maria Pavlovna of Russia (1890–1958) – Not reasonable to have such a long bio article name, with title and all, when her identity is determined through her life years in parentheses. SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:53, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:NCNT title is relevant, moving would imply she was Empress as prospered move is format reserved for sovereign kings, queens, emperors and empresses. - dwc lr (talk) 22:10, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose. It is inconsistent to take off the title, but leave the "of Russia". Move to Grand Duchess Maria Pavlovna. That's the way she is given in this news story from 1917 and in The Flight of the Romanovs. I note that is actually shorter than the proposed shortened version. She is the referent for the first few results that come up on Google, so I think we can make her primary topic. The term is a redirect to nowhere now, so we might as well use it for something. Kauffner (talk) 12:05, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose per "Other royals" point #2 at WP:NCNT, and because there were 2 grandducheses of this name whose lives overlapped, so dates readily disambiguate. Other alternatives should be considered after this move is rejected. FactStraight (talk) 09:52, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
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