Talk:7.1 surround sound

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Page moved to 7.1 surround sound  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

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8 channel audio → 7.1 — This should be renamed to 7.1 (surround sound). That's how it's widely known and named (compared to 8 channel audio) and it would match the naming structure with previous configurations (5.1). Sujayt (talk) 01:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Unsure. It's a fairly esoteric name. Sure, those who know about this topic use this terminology, but many would not even recognise it as the name of a surround sound system. Would 7.1 surround sound be acceptable as an alternative? Andrewa (talk) 07:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support. My system is 7.1 and they are marketed as such. Google returns 215,000 hits for "8 surround sound", 2,750,000 for "7.1 surround sound" and 169,000 for "8 surround sound" -7.1. Vegaswikian (talk) 08:08, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
  • So, would you be happy with 7.1 surround sound rather thn just 7.1 as currently proposed? Andrewa (talk) 09:41, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
    • Yes to 7.1 surround sound. While 7.1 is correct and likely the common name, making the name clear is not an issue here. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:17, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
      • See also Talk:5.1#Requested move for a proposal to move to 5.1 surround sound. Andrewa (talk) 18:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
        • I think 7.1 surround sound and 5.1 surround sound would be great compromises for both articles (with 5.1 and 7.1 redirected to the articles), and would unite with the most commonplace and understandable naming method. --Sujayt 19:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
          • Agree on the redirects. Andrewa (talk) 08:03, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
      • It's perhaps not a clear as it might be, but I think this is also a support vote for the alternative proposal to move to 7.1 surround sound, which is formally proposed below. Andrewa (talk) 05:13, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Agree that the current name isn't right. It's not just that there are more common names, also a problem is that 8 channel audio is ambiguous. For example, many early 1/2" multitrack reel to reel tape recorders and a least one 1/4" model were eight channel audio, but they weren't 7.1, in fact they weren't surround sound at all. Andrewa (talk) 17:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

See also Multitrack recording#History. Eight track is a type of eight channel audio, and turns out to be more historically important than I realised. Andrewa (talk) 17:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose move to 7.1. Support the alternative proposal below. SnottyWong talk 22:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Alternative proposal

8 channel audio → 7.1 surround sound as discussed above.

• Support alternative proposal as nominator, see arguments above. Andrewa (talk) 08:03, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support --Sujayt 22:06, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support (was Oppose) There are three different -- very different -- kinds of eight channel audio: the old eight-track cassette (sometimes called car or Lear cassettes), even older eight track audio tape, in 1/4", 1/2", and 1" formats (and in analog and digital forms, and some not even tape), and the new 7.1 surround system (which in some ways is not eight channels at all!) Covering all of these in one article is probably not useful; I'm inclined to eight channel audio being a disambiguation term, pointing at the three different topics, rather than assuming that 7.1 is meant. htom (talk) 15:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Changing to support; this article has nothing to do with eight channel audio, that article needs to be written. htom (talk) 16:39, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Agree. Not sure a disambiguation page is the best approach, it's arguably not strictly disambiguation as Wikipedia uses the term although an appeal to WP:IAR might be a success here! I'm also tending towards an overview article on all eight channel systems, which have been particularly significant in several different areas. Such an overview would link to this more detailed article on 7.1, to relevant multitrack articles including multitrack recording and history of multitrack recording and possibly use the image at File:Korg D888.jpg, to the detailed article on 8-track tape, and possibly to others. Andrewa (talk) 21:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

• Support move to 7.1 surround sound per nominator. This move would standardize these article names, as the discussion at Talk:5.1#Requested move appears to be headed down the same track. SnottyWong talk 22:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
• Support per the entire discussion and 5.1 surround sound. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

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7.1 audio in gaming

i think id would be worth to add a section what 7.1 audio means to gaming. when using a 7.1 audio system or headset you will have great directional sound that is usefull in fps games, if someone tries to sneak up behind you, wou will hear them! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.249.159.41 (talk) 18:40, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

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Diagrams Needed

This article is all about geometry, so it is screaming for diagrams to help readers (like me) to visualize what's now only written in words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffryfisher (talk • contribs) 21:34, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree with this, I came here looking for a picture of the 7.1 setup. The description is really unclear, and assumes I already know how 5.1 works. I just googled for a different website instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.241.62.17 (talk) 22:34, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Need section describing "6.1" systems

There are a number of receivers that refer to themselves as "6.1" systems. [this also] There needs to be information describing what the difference between this and 7.1 systems. Nodekeeper (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:08, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Really, this article needs a complete rewrite esp. as to the audio/decoding that the individual channels are arrived at. Nodekeeper (talk) 18:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC)