Talk:Arrowverse

The CWverse Name.

Before I speak up about this I just wanted to let you all know that I am NOT in Support of the name "CWVerse" I am committed to calling it "Arrowverse" even though Arrow has ended.

However the subheading about when the name "CWverse" came out seems to be incorrect.

In 2019 before Crisis On Infinite Earths was aired the CW came out with a Comics come to life Sizzle Reel that had that name in it. https://comicbook.com/dc/news/dc-tv-sizzle-reel-the-cw-arrow-batwoman-legends-supergirl-flash-/

Now I don't know how reliable Comicbook.com is but if you look at when this article got uploaded it also has a date in July 19 2019.

Shouldn't we amend the subheading a bit to reflect that fact? Maxcardun (talk) 9:31, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

I need to actually read these articles closer. There is in fact a mention there but not putting down the 2019 date. Maxcardun (talk) 8:12, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Serial Box shows

I think we should cut the section about upcoming Serial Box shows. There's been no news about that in nearly 3 years, and Serial Box doesn't even exist anymore. --Dsethlewis (talk) 22:16, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I agree.. Serial Box has a new name, so it technically still exists.. but they have no mention of the shows on their website anymore so it's safe to say the project did not happen. Spanneraol (talk) 22:29, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done -- Alex_21 _TALK 00:10, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Crossover Definition

I figure that I should make a talk page out of this before anyone makes a concrete move on this subject. I noticed that we are counting the final appearance of Oliver Queen on the Flash under the "Crossover" Category. While this is a notable event, I feel as if it shows a certain bias seeing as how Batwoman in one form or another and Nia Nal from Supergirl also made an appearance at some point. To lessen the potential Bias seeing as the episode was a single one, we can either remove this episode from the crossover list or we could include Mask Of The Red Death and Wildest Dreams in the Category. Or perhaps amend the 2023 Crossover Events to a single name and perhaps put the Episode names under the show they are crossing over from. Maxcardun (talk) 03:24, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

"It's My Party and I'll Die If I Want To" has been referred to specifically as a crossover episode. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:10, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

A crossover is when two shows crossover with each other. Olivers appearance was a guest spot.. it was NOT a crossover since nothing crossed over. Spanneraol (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Reliable secondary sources refer to it as a crossover. Therefore, it is a crossover; our own personal defintions are irrelevant. -- Alex_21 _TALK 00:19, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

That Reference you pointed out is NOT the CW, those guys at "Comic Book" will say anything. Again I'm trying to point out that Batwoman/Ryan Wilder also had one of these spots in a big way. When we think about it we can probably ignore Nia's Episode from this season since she is not in fact "Supergirl", and it would probably fall in line more with the time Ray first made an appearance on The Flash. If we're giving attention to this one guest spot when Oliver comes on, why not Ryan? It's not like either was a Major Event since both their shows concluded some time ago. Maxcardun (talk) 14:23, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't matter, sources used do not have to be only from the primary source. Do you have any sources stating that any of your mentioned examples are crossovers? If not, it violates WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Wikipedia bases its content only on reliably sourced material, not your personal opinions. -- Alex_21 _TALK 20:55, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Don't you threaten me talking about violations, I didn't touch your precious article about this, that's why I started this conversation. At any rate since it seems no one calls the other two instances a "Crossover" despite the actual occurrence and another "Comic Book" Article stating from The Director that the episode serves "In A Sense" as the Final Crossover event, not a Crossover event, the prime definition sadly seems to me to be up in the air, and like a lot of things in the CW in the end apparently belongs to the people who take some kind of ownership of it like you and Favre1fan93. So I guess we have no control in the end for a proper civil consensus, and two separate articles explaining the same thing. One here and one in The Flash Season 9 Maxcardun (talk) 17:32, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Please remain civil, I have not threatened you in any format. If you source you provided calls it a crossover, "in a sense", then it's a crossover, "in a sense". It seems to be that you are indeed the one trying to force their point of view against Wikipedia's core policies and against sourced content. Do you have any sources that specifically say it is not a crossover? Or is it simply that you don't like it? -- Alex_21 _TALK 20:49, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

"in a sense" is not a crossover... and outside of bloggy fan sites like comic book do you actually have an official source calling it a crossover? It wasn't Panabaker calling it that in the article, it was the writer. Spanneraol (talk) 21:34, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, just to clarify my understanding on your position on sources: do you believe that Wikipedia's content should be supported only by primary, "official" sources? Is that the only acceptable type of source, in your eyes, to support the addition of such content? -- Alex_21 _TALK 03:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Expanding upon my reply, ComicBook.com is actually far from some "bloggy fan site"; if you'd taken the time to read their About page, the site is part of Paramount Global and lead by an extensively experienced editorial team. This site is probably as reliable as you can get; that's why it's used in over 4,600 Wikipedia articles. -- Alex_21 _TALK 08:01, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

FWIW, the new EW cover story about the end of The Flash includes "nine official mega crossovers" in the article, but does not name them. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

That would indicate "It's My Party and..." doesn't count, because otherwise the number would be ten. O.N.R. ^(talk) 07:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

And that would be WP:OR, as you're personally assuming what doesn't count. -- Alex_21 _TALK 07:32, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Superman & Lois crossover

Superman & Lois has never crossed over with an Arrowverse show, so I don't think it's appropriate to mention otherwise in the infobox even if the show began production as an Arrowverse show. Feel free to revert me if you think otherwise. Linkin Prankster (talk) 11:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)