Talk:Aryan race

RfC on restoring revision content to adopt proposed changes

The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Consensus is to adopt the proposed changes, and the reverting editor has withdrawn the objection. --WikiLinuz {talk} 21:10, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

---

Should this version of the proposed changes be adopted into the article in lieu of this current version? --WikiLinuz {talk} 04:48, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Diff between the two versions for added ease of comparison by Pincrete. Pincrete (talk) 06:06, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

• Support for the reasons stated exhaustively in Talk:Aryan race#Consensus to restore revision 1152101176; the series of 12 edits does improve the article and therefore the proposed changes should be adopted into the article. --WikiLinuz {talk} 04:53, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
• Mostly support, as adding relevent sourced material. However, the existing sourced material on the term Volksgemeinschaft should not be removed.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  15:15, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
• Support for the reasons listed in Talk: Aryan race#Consensus to restore revision 1152101176. Chefs-kiss (talk) 16:57, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
• Support. That proposal would improve the article. Fad Ariff (talk) 12:15, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
• Comment - Given the !votes here, I withdraw my objections to WikiLinuz' edits. Beyond My Ken (talk) 16:59, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

@SMcCandlish: I'm confused by what you mean the existing sourced material on the term Volksgemeinschaft should not be removed. The current version of the articles does not mention the term Volksgemeinschaft at all (you can Ctrl + F and search for "Volksgemeinschaft"). That was added by me in one of those 12 diffs that I am proposing to be adopted into the current article. Mind to elaborate? --WikiLinuz {talk} 19:54, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

I must have misread the diff by Pincrete, then. My point is that the material on Volksgemeinschaft should definitely be included; it is very helpful to the reader to see these confusingly similar non-English terms in sequence and distinguished from each other.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:18, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

The diff provided by Pincrete compared my revision vs. current revision.
For convenience, this diff compares current revision vs. my revision.
This is the exact revision number that I'm proposing to restore. --WikiLinuz {talk} 20:30, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

Right. I think I'm in agreement with your revisions, then. They seem well-founded and -sourced, and the flow is overall improved, with good material being added (such as the Volksgemeinschaft explanation).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  22:10, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Definition of aryan race in nazism

Aryan race was defined by Nazism as all Europeans who do not have Jewish ancestry, this is an easily verifiable historical fact and I do not understand how WikiLinuz can delete my contributions. Midofe1996 (talk) 20:35, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Aryan race was defined by Nazism as all Europeans who do not have Jewish ancestry - No, is was not. Read the cited sources. --WikiLinuz (talk) 22:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_for_the_Restoration_of_the_Professional_Civil_Service Midofe1996 (talk) 07:22, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

@WikiLinuz Midofe1996 (talk) 10:00, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

The page doesn't contradict what I'm saying or what this article says. Slavs, Balkans, Spaniards, etc. are "European", but not "Aryan". Nazi's definition of Aryam primarily implies Nordic and Germanic peoples, or their supposed "racially purer" descendants. They did some mental gymnastics with regards to Hungarians, Finns, etc., but doesn't change anything. --WikiLinuz (talk) 12:07, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

@WikiLinuz

No, the Nordics were a part of the Aryan race, but this concept encompassed all Europeans including the Slavs and Mediterranean Europeans.

You have no evidence to support those myths, so let me edit the article. Midofe1996 (talk) 08:49, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm not gonna argue with you if you have difficulty understanding what the sources actually say, but if you continue this style of editing (which you are doing on every Nazi racial theory related articles), you will be taken to ANI. --WikiLinuz (talk) 15:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

This page is sophistry

Ctrl-f Yamnaya: no hits — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.219.59.82 (talk) 02:39, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Who cares? That's about "Indo-aryan", quite different. Doug Weller talk 08:30, 12 September 2024 (UTC)