Talk:Aziz al-Abub

Lack of references

The only two references on this article are:

• From Citizens Commission on Human Rights, an extremely unreliable source.
• A copy of a book review from The Guardian, which complains about the lack of any sources in the book for its assertions. "It is particularly troubling in his account of Dr Aziz Al-Abub, whom he names as the physician-torturer of hostages in Beirut, and whose role he reproduces in some detail without ever giving us a fragment of evidence to support the story."
• The "Further reading" is the same book that the review complains about.

A search for any good references falls into a sea of Wiki-echos, conspiracy and Islamophobe pages which frequently reference back to this page. Lacking a reference of his death, this is still a BLP article. I'm removing the non-RS refs, and adding a Prod blp. AndroidCat (talk) 14:26, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

The two refs added, Bodansky, Yossef. _target America & the West and British Medical Association. Medicine Betrayed, once again both lead back to that single poor source Journey Into Madness, which the British Medical Association describes as "Evidence is sketchy apart from a racy journalistic account". I'm afraid that the unreliable sources tag needs to go back, and I suggest honest effort to find good sources. AndroidCat (talk) 20:33, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Summing up for 208.81.148.195: All of the references in the article lead back to one primary source (I spent the time to check, including Yossef Bodansky's footnotes):

• Thomas, Gordon (May 1, 1989). Journey Into Madness: The True Story of Secret CIA Mind Control and Medical Abuse.

Both the Guardian review, and the British Medical Association. Medicine Betrayed describe that book (see above) as without any cited sources and sketchy. It's a poor source, and merits the tag. Simply removing the tag is not an option. The way forward is to either find sources that don't lead back to Journey Into Madness, or AfD. AndroidCat (talk) 21:01, 22 May 2018 (UTC)