Talk:Belladonna (actress)

the tattoo

User:4.153.224.107 changed the description of her chest/shoulder tattoo, from being "a chinese dragon" to being "a sacred heart". A photo of the tattoo is here, and it's clearly a dragon. I'll restore the info (although it's smaller than I though, so I'll reflect that). I'm pretty sure one of the other tattoos she has is indeed a heart, but I don't know where. -- Middenface 22:33, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The tattoo on her chest is of a heart not a dragon. Here is a link to a picture of it http://www.enterbelladonna.com/guests/free/010204/set1/006.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22:46, 1 August 2006 (talk) 69.110.129.195 (UTC)

What year did she get it exactly? Trevor GH5 20:25, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

picture

Are there no PD images of Belladonna avilable? The current one used here is from a DVD cover, which can't be used on other wikipedias. --Bomkia 16:02, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Bomkia, if we had a PD image, we would have definitely used it for the article. :-) -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. ^{Think out loud} 12:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

And in fact, there is now a PD image of Belladonna on this page.  :) Tabercil 23:15, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

This information is uncited

The following was not cited. I have removed the content so that people may provide links to it or modify it so that it can be reintroduced into the article.

Since 2004 (possibly coinciding with her marriage), her work has been exclusively Girl/Girl films. However, according to news and photos on her official website posted on January 25, 2006, it appears she will be returning to classic boy/girl gonzo films. Her return to the genre will include a scene with actor Lexington Steele and is scheduled for release on May 30, 2006.

Any questions, comments or concerns? -- Joe Beaudoin Jr. ^{Think out loud} 12:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Her only doing Girl/Girl as of lately is more of a matter of fact. While she did star in some scenes involving male partners, I'm not aware of her having performed WITH them (as in: performed sexual acts with/on them in front of the camera) ever since, apart from transsexuals (as evident by her website's (sample?) galleries).

I don't know where that statement about her "return" comes from -- possibly it's an assumption based on a statement on her website. I also don't know whether the fact she hasn't starred with a male partner for two years is a coincidence or intentional as I do not recall her having ever talked about it.

I'd wager the best source of information would be her website, as it is apparently maintained by her and her husband.

Sidenote: She DID perform with a male partner in some of her website's photo galleries: her husband. I think that's rather rare, though, at least in comparison to how often she performed with male partners before 2004.

I can't cite anything but original research here, though. -- Ashmodai 13:01, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

alot of this information seems biased

theres absolutely no negative criticism of belladonna herself. im not saying that negative criticism is needed to make information accurate, but she's not jesus either(for lack of a less controversal, but "perfect" person). Just to give a background on my views, I have no problem what so ever with pornagraphy. Even if this article was about [put bad person here; i cant think of a universal enemy], having no good information about that person would sound just too one sided.

sounds like something an agent/publicist would write. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teimu.tm (talk • contribs) 21:25, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Well you're welcome to add whatever negative information you want provided it's sourced... Also, I think belladonna is jesus. PrettyMuchBryce 16:36, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Doctor Michelle Sinclair

She often introduces herself as Doctor Michelle Sinclair, aka Belladonna. Does she actually have a doctorate, and if so, what is it in? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.94.44.14 (talk) 03:01, 30 December 2006 (UTC).

No. 76.105.157.77 (talk) 07:58, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

She dropped out of high school due mainly to familial matters. She took a career in porn given her sexual temperament and eventually stayed due to her impact.

She had stated she has interest in the science of gynecology given her career's and impact on both the pornographic and mainstream media. She has directed multiple pornographic films amongt main stream acting.

Despite what other men personally think she has branched into many career paths though due to early life struggles and success of her career she chose not to pursue academia.--68.194.102.212 (talk) 05:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

References

Belladonna: disambiguation/plant/atropine

There should be a link to the disambiguation page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belladonna_%28disambiguation%29

Paulownia5 04:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

• No, there shouldn't. Valrith 23:17, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I agree. Who would type "Belladonna (porn star)" when they're looking for a plant? Atamasama 16:29, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Recent vandalisms

In the wake of the recent and tragic vandalisms that were recently visited upon this page I would like to recognize those studious Wikipedia editors that quickly acted to vacate the page of the aformentioned vandalisms. I would like to add that I am shocked that anyone actually cared enough about the subject matter to go through the trouble of reverting the vandalisms. My guess is that you truly care about the future of this encyclopedia and for that you deserve to be recognized. Bravo you brave men and women, bravo. 70.152.143.31 05:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't pass judgment on the content of the articles. I do pass judgment on the content of the edits to the articles. There are some handy tools which help flag and revert potential vandalism faster than it's created. The only difficulty to overcome is the sheer number of vandals. -wizzard2k ^(C•T•D) 05:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandals will take over Wikipedia one day just as barbarians have taken over the world! 70.152.143.31 06:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

semi-retirement

If you go to her website, enterbelladonna.com, and read her blog dated 9/23/07, you'd see that she has reconsidered her choice to retire from working with other people. And in subsequent blog postings, you can read or sometimes even see pictures showing that she is in fact interacting with other adult stars in her scenes. The edit indicating this was removed since it was "unsourced." Well, if anyone wants, the info is there on her site and should be altered here. I don't visit wikipedia enough to figure out how something should be correctly cited so I'll leave it to the experts. Nygoodliving 02:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

• That's what is needed: a source. However, the specific entry you point out does not conclusively state that she's returned to work. I've restored the text and qualified it. Tabercil 02:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you sure she's the same Belladonna that appeared in "Family Business"?

She doesn't look the same at all as the woman who, in the series, first worked as his office receptionist and then later as a porn star. Also, Fashionistas came out in 2002, and at that time, Family Business hadn't been shot, she hadn't gotten a boob job, and she hadn't started doing films. Of course, this is "reality television" and not reality, but in any case, the actresses do not look the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.68.65 (talk) 20:54, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

• You've got your porn stars mixed up. The one who appeared as the receptionist was Mari Possa. Bella Donna appears in numerous episodes of Family Business - and is identified by name. 68.146.41.232 (talk) 12:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Pirates II

It's been announced that she's going to be in the sequel to Pirates. I wouldn't know how to do it, but this seems significant enough to be mentioned in the article, seeing as it's anticipated to be one of the highest-grossing adult films of all time. 24.11.13.171 (talk) 00:05, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Debut movie

Does anyone have the name of her debute movie? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dücanem (talk • contribs) 22:58, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I was the producer of the PrimeTime segment that "made" Bella; at the time, she told me that her first movie was "Deviant Behavior", and that she was so upset by that experience that she had gone back home to Utah for a while, before returning and getting back into the industry again. (This was in May 2001, when I chose her from out of a half-dozen girls we interviewed with Ona Zee to see which ones we wanted to follow around for a couple of years to see what their experiences would be like.) The confusion with what movie was her first stems, I think, from the sequence in which the movies were shot; some were shot early on and came out later, others were shot later and were rushed to market, once people figured out she was going to be on network TV.DaveLaFontaine (talk) 00:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Early tattoo does not equal turbulence

A tattoo at age 12 does not entail a turbulent childhood, as the text now seems to imply. It is also a rather trivial piece of information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.155.200.200 (talk) 06:38, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

While I don't entirely disagree, she is notably tattoed (it's what brought me to this article), and since in most jurisdiction, certainly in mine, tattoing a thirteen year old is quite illegal, and if protective services had gotten wind of it they would've taken an interest it quite probably should imply a turbulent childhood. --99.6.140.108 (talk) 17:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Ethnicity

By Ethnicity please name source !!!!!! This is Encyclopedy and not "I write in what I want " !!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.16.40.179 (talk) 01:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Subject Page Name Change

It seems to be suggested through a recent Vice article and her involvement in the film Inherent Vice that Sinclair wishes to be known as Michelle Sinclair now, rather than her porn stage name "Belladonna", I propose a move of the page name to "Michelle Sinclair" with the former title a redirect and a mention of Belladonna as "also known as". CaffeinAddict (talk) 06:55, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I say we give it a little time. She might not continue in mainstream acting or might switch back and forth depending on the project. Also, add the fact that you say "suggested". That doesn't sound very firm to me. Dismas|^(talk) 20:50, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Or you could just go ahead and do it anyway while seemingly ignoring my response. Dismas|^(talk) 05:23, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I reverted this. Such a move requires consensus given WP:UNDUE. Her fame and notability is as under Belladonna and one article under her real name does not establish the reason for the move. Morbidthoughts (talk) 05:33, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I feel like this is a case of something I did on wikipedia that overzealous editors refuted, and in a few months to a year the article will probably be moved. So I won't waste my time editing this article anymore. CaffeinAddict (talk) 21:58, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, you didn't really have a compelling case. You didn't provide a link to the interview in question, or lacking an online source at least giving a publication name, and you haven't defended your position on the word "suggested". The article may well be moved in the future but I guess we'll never know if you had a strong enough case for moving it now. Dismas|^(talk) 22:07, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

"Catching up with the actress formerly known as Belladonna" VICE magazine, January 9th 2015 [1] CaffeinAddict (talk) 00:54, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Great, I love it when I do have a case, y'all disappear. Just cause you follow the page of your favourite pornstar doesn't mean you can Bully my stance on this. CaffeinAddict (talk) 09:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay, so here's my response... My opinion remains the same. I didn't see a reason to repeat myself before. Dismas|^(talk) 19:32, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

(actress)/(pornographic actress) RfC

An RfC which may affect this article's title is currently taking place (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pornography#RfC: Should a person who has appeared in exclusively pornographic films be described as "(actor/-tress)" or "(pornographic actor/-tress)"?). Rebecca1990 (talk) 06:29, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

I think performer is more appropriate to appearances in porn productions. I also think acctress enables people to detail of every production title, often of unsalubrious nature, and clutter up the page with reminders of things better left unmentioned in a BLP.Overagainst (talk) 20:43, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

BLP issues

There are a few thing about this article that I think are a little over the top for a BLP considering that she is definitely retired and can't be assumed to approve of microscopic attention to her adult career. I think the adult awards section is particularly excessive, and not notable. She was a popular adult performer, but has now retired and debuted in a modest film, a major Hollywood movie for an acclaimed director, and has recently finished filming another part in a prestigious production for another name director. She can legitimately be described as an movie actress, and can be assumed to not object to being described as such.Overagainst (talk) 13:45, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I agree that the awards tables were excessive focusing on her nominations but her awards should at least be listed. Morbidthoughts (talk) 00:34, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes, the award wins should be included, as with any subject, asserts notability. And she has won some very notable awards in the industry. The nominations and finalists mentions should be removed.Wikiuser20102011 (talk) 03:24, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

In any case, too many nominations listed or not, this is not the way to go. Trim the awards table if it is excessive. She is notable for her career as a pornographic actress, not for her brief appearance in Inherent Vice. In fact, if that appearance were her only claim to notability, this article would not pass the notability guidelines. Nymf (talk) 17:21, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Husband should not be referred to as "actor"

"She married Aiden Kelly, an actor," A single appearance, 4 years ago, as an actor (per imdb.com) doesn't merit stating that this is her husband's profession. Clearly, it isn't, earnings-wise. That would be like saying someone who cut down a tree in their yard years ago was a landscaper.

I think "an actor" should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Interzone826 (talk • contribs) 15:42, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Prison scene corrected

A reference to the early group sex prison scene contained a description of slapping, abuse, and her being on the 'verge of tears'. The cited source for this statement (reference 3), contains no such information so I deleted it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.175.29 (talk) 03:43, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Footnotes in lead

The three citations after the subject's name in the lead section are there to verify the subject's real name: Michelle Sinclair (born 1980 or 1981) [is] known professionally as Belladonna. The title of the article is irrelevant. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 04:09, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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