Talk:Ben-Gurion University of the Negev

Netanel Altschuler

No indication outside Wikipedia for the existence of a "Netanel Altschuler" listed as a computer scientist.

Name should be removed from faculty list.

The name was changed "after Ben-Gurion's death in November 1973" – But Ben Gurion died on Dec. 1, 1973 ? --Dr Oldekop (talk) 06:58, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

International programs

Jwa123 has deleted the documented information I added about the successful campaign in South Africa to get the University of Johannesburg to cut its links with Ben-Gurion University. Please explain why you deleted it. It's all documented and relevant to that particular section of the page. Nescio vos (talk) 22:07, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Jwa123 please explain why you deleted the above information. For other contributors' reference, the removed text was as follows: Ben-Gurion University used to have links with the University of Johannesburg in South Africa. Following an academic petition supported by more than 250 academics, including Breyten Breytenbach, John Dugard, Antjie Krog, Mahmood Mamdani and Achille Mbembe,[1] the Senate of the University of Johannesburg decided to end its ties with Ben-Gurion University in March 2011.[2] The University denied that the decision amounted to an academic boycott of Israel.[3] Others have claimed it as a “a landmark moment in the growing Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign.”[4] Zionist and Israeli groups have criticised the decision.[5] Nescio vos (talk) 12:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

I have now restored the deletion given the lack of any reply. Nescio vos (talk) 11:55, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Political science department

Nothing about the controversy over the political science department. Academics accused the Netanyahu government of trying to close down the political science department, because it was too liberal and critical of right-wing policies, including one professor who supported the boycott movement.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israeli-education-body-reverses-decision-to-close-ben-gurion-university-politics-department.premium-1.503188 Israeli education body reverses decision to close Ben Gurion University politics department Negev university successfully appeals against Higher Education Council's controversial ruling, putting an end to an affair that caused widespread controversy among academics. By Talila Nesher | Feb.13, 2013 | 2:46 AM

http://chronicle.com/article/Fate-of-Controversial/134782/ September 30, 2012 Fate of Controversial Political-Science Department in Israel May Be Decided Soon --Nbauman (talk) 20:26, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

"A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject."

Who? --RaphaelQS (talk) 12:15, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi RaphaelQS! Fair question.

Who? The user named Jwa123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · blacklist hits · AbuseLog · what links to user page · count · COIBot · Spamcheck · user page logs · x-wiki · status · Edit filter search · Google · StopForumSpam). This user is probably either a copyright violator (though maybe not on purpose) or a university employee. See his/her talk page. Looking at the user's articlespace edits, the user has only ever edited articles about BGU or BGU departments or BGU faculty or other topics connected with BGU. The user has never edited any other article.

The user has only ever made one[1] talk page edit, on Harry the Dirty Dog's talk page:

Hi,

I am relatively new to Wikipedia and it is taking me some time to do what I want, however, I find it very intrusive that you are editing my article while I am also doing so. There are changes I want to make, but this is becoming impossible if you are editing at the same time and not letting me learn by my own mistakes.

Thank you for your attention.

jwa123

(Harry replied elsewhere.)

Jwa123 is probably the main contributor of such (unsourced) drivel as:

There are sixty one interdisciplinary research centers at Ben-Gurion University including: the S. Daniel Abraham International Center for Health and Nutrition, the Robert H. Arnow Center for Bedouin Studies and Development, the Ben-Gurion National Solar Energy Center, the Goldstein-Goren-International Center for Jewish Thought, the Esther and Sidney Rabb Center for Holocaust and Redemption Studies, the Edmond J. Safra Center for the Design and Engineering of Functional Biopolymers, the Reimund Stadler Minerva Center for Mesoscale Macromolecular Engineering and the Zlotowski Center for Neurosciences.

I'm not sure we need to know the names of any of the interdisciplinary research centers, and even if we do, we definitely don't need to know the names of the donors who made them possible. Jwa123's very long run-on sentence is hard to read and understand.

I have added a {{Connected contributor}} template at the top of this talk page.

I have also toned down Jwa123's puffery. ("Ben-Gurion University has eight world class research institutes"? Jwa123 provided no reliable source asserting that they were world-class.)

Jwa123 first started editing in August 2010, and most recently edited in December 2013. I have presented the user with {{welcome-COI}} and {{uw-advert1}}. (I am surprised that nobody had done so before.) Please do not hesitate to present the user with other templates in the {{uw-advertN}} series if the user comes back and hurts Wikipedia again.

Kind regards, —Unforgettableid (talk) 00:39, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. RaphaelQS (talk) 04:58, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

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Cyber@BGU

Please add the following part about the new Cyber Security Research Center named "Cyber@BGU":

Cyber@BGU (CBG) serves as a shared research platform, in partnership with various multi-national companies and governmental organizations. Situated in the Ben-Gurion Advanced Technologies Park in Beer-Sheva (Israel's Cyber Capital), CBG encompasses the Cyber Security Research Center, a joint initiative with the Israel National Cyber Bureau; Deutsche Telekom Innovation Laboratories in partnership with Deutsche Telekom; and Center for Computational Criminology, in partnership with the Israeli Police.
Core research under the Cyber@BGU umbrella includes IoT security; cyber for intelligent transportation; cyber for aviation; malware; AI-based cyber defense; fraud detection; and Big Data analysis for cybersecurity.
Website to cite for this part: "https://cyber.bgu.ac.il/" Zahira Cohen (talk) 10:50, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Reply 07-DEC-2018

  Secondary sources needed  

• Please provide secondary sources for these claims, per WP:PSTS.

Regards,  Spintendo  12:29, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Request edit on 22 November 2020

Replacing obsolete logos.

Both logos in the infobox are obsolete. I want to replace them with the new logo. See the top of the infobox of the Hebrew article for the new logo: https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%98%D7%AA_%D7%91%D7%9F-%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%95%D7%9F_%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%92%D7%91. You can also see the new logo in the web page of the marketing unit of the university: https://in.bgu.ac.il/marketing/graphics/bgu.sig.he-en.vertical.png

Adig-pt (talk) 14:56, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

References

 Done Thanks for using the request edit template. Z1720 (talk) 16:18, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi @RaphaelQS:, I noticed that you changed this logo back to the original image. Why was this changed back? Z1720 (talk) 14:45, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

I updated the vector files with the new logos. --RaphaelQS (talk) 15:38, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Adig-pt: is the logo now correct? Z1720 (talk) 16:00, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Z1720: No, it's not. The new logo can be seen at the top of the infobox of the Hebrew article on the university: [[2]] Adig-pt (talk) 16:15, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Adig-pt: I am a bit confused now after looking at the university's website. The logo on the website has an orange flame with a white background with the university name beside it. The current English Wikipedia logo has a white flame with an orange background with no words. The Hebrew Wikipedia has a white flame, orange background, with words. I think we should use the one on their official website. Thoughts? Z1720 (talk) 17:25, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Z1720: Let's agree that the top pic in the infobox is not the university's logo. Regarding the bottom logo: although the orange flame on white background is on the university's web page, it's not their official logo. The official logo is displayed on the web page of the marketing department [[3]]. There are some versions there, in one, two or three languages, and the logo may be on top of the text or beside it, but it is always white flame on orange background. If this is not convincing enough, I can ask the university's spokesman to issue an official letter on the matter. Adig-pt (talk) 20:36, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Adig-pt: I have looked at the marketing website that you provided. Both the orange flame-white background (university logo) and white flame-orange background (University logo-circle) are used. Likewise, the top of the page has an orange flame-white background while the example of the logo with the name of the university further down has the white flame-orange background.

This is what I am going to do: The image at the top is going to be the one that is currently there: white flame-orange background, no text. The logo at the bottom is going to be the image used in the Hebrew wiki, which is white flame-orange background, name of the university in English and (I think) Hebrew. Does this fulfil your request? Z1720 (talk) 21:06, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Z1720: No problem with the bottom logo. Regarding the top image: let me consult with the university's spokesman to get an official answer, because there are indeed some confusing images on their site. Hope to update here in a day or two. Thanks for your efforts and patience! --Adig-pt (talk) 08:11, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

If you are going to ask the university directly can you ask for the official vector files? Thank you. --RaphaelQS (talk) 08:55, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

@Z1720:@RaphaelQS: Ok, so I emailed the spokesman and he said that the top image is not the seal/shield of the university but an obsolete logo that should be deleted (you can also notice that the orange tone is darker than in the new logo). He asked to replace it with the image of the white flame with orange background: [[4]] like in other Israeli universities: [[5]], [[6]], [[7]] (other universities here just display the full logo - image and text on the top of the infobox [[8]], [[9]]). Regarding the vector files: do you mean SVG files?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Adig-pt (talk • contribs) 11:12, December 1, 2020 (UTC)

I have moved what used to be the logo into the image parameter of the infobox. Old image was tagged for deletion. Z1720 (talk) 22:37, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

I updated the logo with the official vector file provided by the university. --RaphaelQS (talk) 09:41, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

@RaphaelQS:, Somehow the article reverted to the old logo. The vector file for the new one is this: [10] (the bottom version should be chosen) --Adig-pt (talk) 13:53, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi @RaphaelQS:, I also received an svg file of the new logo, if this helps --Adig-pt (talk) 08:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)