Talk:CityFibre

Virgin Media to buy CityFibre

It is written that Virgin Media offered to buy Cityfibre. but i cant find any confirming source of this, only a few news articles and user discussions. There are no official comminications on this topic from CityFibre or Virgin media. Since the source of the news from The Telegraph leading me to be beleive this was WP:FAKENEWS

If anyone can find an other WP:Reliablesources can you add them as citations. If not i will remove that paragram entirely.

TagKnife (talk) 21:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

I think it was relevant at the time, but it doesn't seem like there's been any progress if they were in-talks, so its notability is perhaps debatable. I do think it's worth being in the article (as you say, it was covered by news articles) but seems harmless to remove due to effectively being a rumour at worst, failed talks at best.

It's worth noting that there were doubts that it'd even be allowed anyway https://www.capacitymedia.com/article/2bfcli0b5oynpc3tjzim8/news/cma-approval-for-vmo2-cityfibre-takeover-unlikely HarrySONofBARRY (talk) 23:15, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

My main gripe with it is that The Telegraph is the primary source of this news, all other articles I read refrenced the article by The Telegraph and that article its self does not reference any realiable source confirming the legitamcy of the claim, there has also been no news since of the talks failing/succeeding/continuing.

So i beleive the article and news itself is wholey a speculative/opinionated WP:RSEDITORIAL peice. TagKnife (talk) 23:54, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I don't entirely disagree with you, feel free to remove. HarrySONofBARRY (talk) 01:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

I have removed the sentence. TagKnife (talk) 16:20, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Update on this.

I just caught wind that cityfibre is partnering with on of the largest ISPs in Britain. No infomation other than that, cityfibre hasnt made a comment but rumours are either BT, Virgin Media or EE has partnered with Cityfibre to provide FTTH broadband. TagKnife (talk) 09:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

This turned out to just be a partnership with BT to turn off landline phone connections. Nothing special TagKnife (talk) 10:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Article Improvements

There are alot of history, achievements, aquasitions & partnerships, news and whole years of activity missing around CityFibre.

The page could be grown to include points such a legislative and political influence, connected cities/towns and/or cities/town being worked on (a table perhapse or a map?).

I know @HarrySONofBARRY has being majority editor of this article with 73% of the page written by them, but there is still lot missing and i suspect more to come down the pipeline as CityFibre is growing fast as a company and activtly contesting other companies with regular complaints to Ofcom and Anti-competitive complaints in court against other companies.

With some good collaberation CityFibre can easily be brought out of a Start-Class Article. TagKnife (talk) 00:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Yeah this article was a two-line stub when I found it https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CityFibre&diff=prev&oldid=1162704382 I remember thinking that was highly unusual given its notability. It's definitely not the best article I've written and is somewhat outside of my personal expertise, I've mostly done the best I can with it. I support whatever improvements you can make :)

Whatever you decide to do, do note that this page has a history of, let's say, unusual and persistent reversions by IP editors https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CityFibre&action=history HarrySONofBARRY (talk) 01:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Yea, I saw the one right after my edit that you reverted. Hence the need to bringe the article up out of start-class topic. Then it can be semi-protected.

I my self am no proficient writter, I commonly make typos, spelling mistakes or generally tend to skip whole words in a sentence and I find i type slower then i think. So i can end up writting think forward and forget the inbetween part.

This is a candidate for WP:Teahouse but im not sure of the helpers there would be able to offer up much help. There is alot of research, digging, formamting and original writting that needs to be done.

I have nominated the page for Wikipedia:Articles_for_improvement TagKnife (talk) 01:30, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

CityFibre has passed the Articles for improvement vote and added to the list Wikipedia:Articles_for_improvement/Articles TagKnife (talk) 10:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I have added the help needed banner to the article. TagKnife (talk) 00:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

I have seperated the years in the history, this will allow editors to easily see timelines which are missing.

As clearly obvious, 2015-2020 is completly missing and 2021 is missing. TagKnife (talk) 09:48, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Company name and type

Do we want to change company name and type of Cityfibre?

I think it is benifitial to the article to correctly follow chain of ownership and mark the company type as "subsidiary".

CityFibre Limited Is the operating company

Which is majoritively owned by CityFibre Holdings Limited - Responsable for assets and captial.

Which is majoritively owned by CityFibre Infrastructure Limited - Responsable for aquasitions/builds/billable materials.

Which is majoritively owned by Cityfibre Holdco Limited - The collective company with goldman sachs, Antin infrastructure, intergo etc etc.

After 2014, this is how the company structure was changed to allow for the majority shared ownership of the operating company for investors in the private takeover.

I think we should change the company bar to be name 'CityFibre Limited' and type of 'subsidiary'

TagKnife (talk) 09:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable to me. Article name should remain as is but changes to the infobox, sure. HarrySONofBARRY (talk) 19:13, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Cool done that, Also took it on my self to update Entanet and Fibrecity Holdings to be subsidiaries of CityFibre as per the full accounts filing. TagKnife (talk) 12:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

COI tag (June 2024)

Edited by employee of CityFibre JoelleJay (talk) 05:50, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Only two editors have made significant contributions to this article, myself and @TagKnife:. To who is this COI directed at? HarrySONofBARRY (talk) 22:57, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

The only COI i know about was the @CityFibre account which has been banned for a while now. TagKnife (talk) 00:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Their contributions were mass deleted shortly before I came upon this article, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=CityFibre&diff=prev&oldid=1161140161 HarrySONofBARRY (talk)

Yea, thats why (as with you) Im confused where the COI is. There has been no post on either of our talk pages and nothing in WP:COIN

Also if you manually reply, put ~~~~ after your text to properly fill in the comment. As your last comment doesnt have reply to or time stamp. TagKnife (talk) 17:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

In lieu of an explanation, I've removed the tag.

I've also removed the "needs an update" tag, as I feel it's no longer required. HarrySONofBARRY (talk) 15:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Agreed, there has been no provided justification, other than the vaque "emplyee" remark. TagKnife (talk) 23:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Update: it would appear TagKnife was banned for COI violations. I cannot tell if that is related to this article or not, but worth noting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TagKnife#c-TagKnife-20241113122300-November_2024 HarrySONofBARRY (talk) 18:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)