Talk:Connecticut Route 15

FYI: The parkway section doesn't appear to be up to Interstate freeway standards

One of the rest areas was separated from the road by just a few feet of grass. Not even a ditch or curb. Will (Talk - contribs) 03:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

That would be because it isn't an Interstate. I'm not sure which rest-stop you were at, but the ones in Fairfield County (Fairfield esp.) have been having to cope with being in a construction zone for most of the year while they cut out a lot of overgrown trees, resurface the roadway, re-curb, etc. Markvs88 (talk) 14:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

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Merger proposal

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To merge Wilbur Cross Parkway, but not Merritt Parkway, into this article, given the independent notability of the latter. Klbrain (talk) 12:59, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

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I propose to merge Merritt Parkway and Wilbur Cross Parkway into this page. The two aforementioned highways are both components of Route 15 in their entirety, and it has long been practice to consolidate different segments of a numbered highway in a state in a single article. Some examples of this precedent are:

• Delaware Turnpike and Wilmington Expressway are both consolidated into Interstate 95 in Delaware
• Chicago Skyway and Jane Addams Memorial Tollway are both consolidated into Interstate 90 in Illinois
• Southern Tier Expressway and Quickway are both consolidated into New York State Route 17
• Chesapeake Expressway and Tidewater Drive are consolidated into Virginia State Route 168
• Dulles Toll Road, Dulles Access Road, and Dulles Greenway are consolidated into Virginia State Route 267

In addition to eliminating redundancy, merging the articles would mean editors would only have to maintain one article. Needforspeed888 (talk) 05:00, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Oppose -- While both roads are CT 15 in their entirety, Merritt Parkway and Wilbur Cross Parkway are better known as separate and distinct parkways themselves. Additionally Merritt Parkway is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, and contains a split page for the parkway's distinct overpasses. The parkways are far too distinct from the rest of CT 15. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 22:19, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Support per nom. I don't buy the separate and distinct aspect of the parkways; we're currently maintaining three articles when we could be maintaining one. A well put together article would mention everything and not be overbearing. –Fredddie™ 01:05, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Comment - So Bear Mountain Bridge Road can be distinguished as a separately listed NRHP road article, despite being part of the US 6/202 overlap, but Merritt Parkway can't? Also as I pointed out people refer to them as separate roads despite the fact that both parkway are part of CT 15. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 04:12, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

What? No. Merge that one too. –Fredddie™ 04:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

@DanTD: You raise an interesting point. If a route designation consists of two numbered highways for its entire length, then it seems that the precedent is to have a separate article. For example, Berlin Turnpike, Central Artery, Trans-Manhattan Expressway, and Downtown Connector all have their own articles. @Fredddie: Would you lean in the direction of merging these? If so, which of the two highways would they be merged into? Needforspeed888 (talk) 14:02, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

The Central Artery, Downtown Connector and Bear Mountain Bridge Road should all keep their own articles. I thought Trans-Manhattan Expressway was already redirected into I-95 in New York, just as the New England Thruway article was years ago. I never knew about the Berlin Turnpike article, but the history there seems to validate it's separation, and a hatnote into the CT 15 article (as well as US 5). Honestly, I'm fine with hatnotes to articles on the Merritt Parkway and Wilbur Cross Parkway in the Route 15 article. Also, for the record, I fixed the Chesapeake Expressway redirect. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 14:22, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Weak support. On one hand, there is little reason why we need to maintain three articles, two of which are in their entirety part of the same route. If the Merritt Parkway page were more developed, then WP:SIZERULE may justify keeping the Merritt page. As it, is the page is pretty deficient, but there is quite a bit of information that could potentially be added about that part of Route 15, due to its historical significance. Ironically, adding enough info to make the Route 15 article Good Article-standard would mean that Merritt might need to be split back into its own page anyway. The Wilbur Cross Parkway page is pretty short already, so there should be no problem merging that article. – Epicgenius (talk) 01:18, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Comment -- While we're mentioning other roads as examples, I've got another one that should never have been merged; the Orange Blossom Trail. That road is not just U.S. Route 441 in Florida. South of Kissimmee, it's strictly U.S. Route 17/92. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 11:14, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Oppose - Because of the historical nature of the parkway, plus the fact that it’s on the National Register of Historic Places whereas the rest of Route 15 isn’t. Stormy160 (talk) 16:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Keep Merritt Parkway. Merge Wilbur Cross Parkway.. The Merritt is on the NRHP and has plenty of notable sources/data that can be aggregated for it. The Merritt Parkway also is recognized as a scenic byway, while CT RT 15 is not. There have been legislation talks that include the Merritt, but not CT15: Tolls, RT7 Interchange, Storm preparation, etc. It has its own Advisory Committee also. However, the Wilbur Cross Parkway is just a named area of CT15. There is not much significance besides the name and West Rocks Tunnel. The WCP can be merged with its short amount of info like Epicgenious mentioned. I strongly oppose merging the Merritt Parkway however. AmericanAir88^(talk) 08:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose The Merritt is a distinctive parkway, is on the NRHP, has its own history, and should be a separate article. Agnostic on the Wilbur Cross.--RegentsPark (comment) 20:32, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose merging Merritt Parkway. Support merging Wilbur Cross Parkway. The Merritt Parkway is on the National Register of Historic Places. The Wilbur Cross Parkway is not. VC 17:10, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
• Comment/question It seems like the conversation is suggesting that the Merritt Parkway should not be involved in the proposed merge, but people are generally OK with merging in Wilbur Cross Parkway? Am I interpreting things correctly? Joyous! | Talk 03:39, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 08:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)