Talk:Endling

Hi, I would like to see a section on the, I guess you would call it emotional connotations with the word and its meaning. The article linked in the notes (http://www.ejmagazine.com/2002a/history.html) touches on this - "It is deep-to-the-bone chilling to know the exact date a species disappeared from Earth. It is even more ghastly to look upon the place where it happened and know that nobody knew or cared at the time what had transpired and why." That's quite specific to the thylacine but hopefully you get my drift.

Uneffect (talk) 11:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

"Endling is also an artist whom works at snafu comics"

Removed this nugget by a first and only time anon contributer from article untill some kind of notability requirements are satisfied. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uneffect (talk • contribs) 18:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Verification

I came across this article following a link from an article that mentions the recently-deceased tortoise, Lonesome George. While the concept of an "endling" is valid, and is actually quite evocative, I can't find any reference to the term in either the Oxford English Dictionary or in the formal scientific literature (via Web of Knowledge). As such, the term may simply be an ephemeral neologism. However, given that the term will likely come into its own during the ongoing mass extinction, I'm reluctant to delete it (or flag it for deletion). But it needs proper referencing of uses of it in reliable sources. Google turns up a few, but it needs to be done properly (shorthand for: I'm too lazy). --PLUMBAGO 12:43, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I completely agree with Plumbago. After sufficient research, I too cannot find any reliable information. The sources provided do not give a single ounce of evidence for this article to still exist. Broden (talk) 13:15, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

The term is used in an article in the New Statesman which supports the definition used in the article: New Statesman. 7/2/2012, Vol. 141 Issue 5112, p14-14. 3/4p. It appears that the original use of this term was in this article in Nature: Nature 380, 386 (4 April 1996) | doi:10.1038/380386c0 Richardjames444 —Preceding undated comment added 02:37, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Also used in Robin, Libby (2001) The flight of the emu: a hundred years of Australian ornithology, 1901-2001, p. 322, and in SEJ Journal: The Quarterly Publication of the Society of Environmental Journalists, Volume 12 (2002), p. 68. Goustien (talk) 01:14, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Plants

Are the last surviving individuals of plants also endlings? --Melly42 (talk) 11:03, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

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Thylacine

The section about the extinction of the thylacine appears to contradict Wikipedia's main article about that animal, e.g. was the last zoo specimen male or female, and who captured it? Both articles should be edited to bring them into harmony. Muzilon (talk) 00:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

Pyrenean Ibex, two endlings

Being that the Pyrenean ibex was cloned after extinction and that individual survived for 40 minutes, for that time there was again only one living Pyrenean ibex. So, it has had two endlings which may be worth mentioning. I am going to add this information in, but this is a different case from other endlings, so if others object to that inclusion in the article, that can be discussed here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blanketstitch (talk • contribs) 02:42, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

This should be mentioned as part of the Celia section, but "Celia junior" does not need her own listing. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 23:39, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

There is a note regarding "Celia junior." It says that Celia is still the species endling despite cloning and if there will ever be a successful cloning or de-extinction in the future. So, I guess that this cannot be added, and I assume the same applies for "Benjamin" when Colossal and University of Melbourne de-extinct the thylacine through genome editing and for any back bred aurochs or quagga from their respective projects. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 02:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Qiqi, Pahu, Yangtze giant softshell turtle, Najin, and Fatu

Qiqi was the final known baiji that died of old age in 2002, Pahu is the only known Bornean rhinoceros in captivity, there is only one known Yangtze giant softshell turtle that lives in Suzhou Zoo, and Najin and Fatu are the last two known northern white rhinoceros that live on Ol Pejeta conservancy in Kenya. Do they belong on the list of endlings with some clarifications? None of these species are extinct, but functionally extinct.

There is still a small population of wild baijs left in the Yangtze River, 2-3 wild Yangtze giant softshell turtles in Vietnam, and there is an estimate of 80 or less wild Bornean rhinoceros, but Najin and Fatu are confirmed to be the only two northern white rhinoceros left with no evidence or sightings that prove that there is still a wild population. Should they be listed here with clarifications on there still being a small wild population of baijis, Yangtze giant softshell turtles, and Bornean rhinoceros and that the species are just functionally extinct?

*EDIT* I saw the notes regarding the northern white rhinoceros and for last known individuals in captivity. So, that also eliminates the Yangtze giant-softshell turtle in China, Qiqi, and Pahu due there still being individuals in the wild. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 23:36, 7 September 2024 (UTC)