Talk:Jews
Latest comment: 7 days ago by Carlstak in topic What’s with the glazing in the last paragraph?
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Non-White Jews
editWe all know full well there are such things as Arab Jews. Why is there no data on all the Moroccon Jews? They all exist. But we only recognise the Ashkenazi Jews (Modern Israel Jews) Issue resolved MjhdNfl (talk) 00:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean. We have several articles on Mizrahi Jews and Arab Jews, History of the Jews in Morocco, and so on. Andre🚐 03:02, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Andrevan
- Ik, but shouldn't it be part of the bigger article on the Jews? MjhdNfl (talk) 03:24, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, of course, Mizrahim occurs at least 7 times on this page, North Africa at least 20 times Andre🚐 03:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- Moroccan Jews are mentioned in five places in the article. In addition, there's a section titled "Ethnic divisions". So it isn't clear what your concern is. Largoplazo (talk) 13:13, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Largoplazo oh ok nvm MjhdNfl (talk) 13:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Not the only Israelites that had kept their distinct identity (See: Samaritans)
editName and etymology: "After the Exile, the term Yehudi (Jew) was used for all followers of Judaism because the survivors of the Exile (who were the former residents of the Kingdom of Judah) were the only Israelites that had kept their distinct identity as the ten tribes from the northern Kingdom of Israel had been scattered and assimilated into other populations."
This claim is not totally true and misleading. Samaritans are crying in the corner. Theofunny (talk) 08:02, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
What’s with the glazing in the last paragraph?
edit“Jews wrote the Bible, founded Christianity, and had an indirect but profound influence on Islam.”
Not only does this sentence contain somewhat misleading (or at least incomplete) phrasing for the first two parts, but the language itself seems to be leaning towards glazing. The preceding sentence is sufficient.
Lmk if I’m totally off base here, this is just my perception 65.112.8.31 (talk) 07:03, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Seems fine to me, literally true statements, no puffery detected. Andre🚐 07:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, perhaps I was mistaken. I still think it might be beneficial to reword it in a way that doesn’t oversimplify things as much. 65.112.8.31 (talk) 11:30, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- How would you want to reword it? Andre🚐 22:50, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- "Jews authored the Bible, established Christianity, and influenced Islam." Moxy🍁 01:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Seems fine to me. Andre🚐 01:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- The first two clauses seems mostly a substitution of longer words for shorter ones, with no apparent change in meaning or other improvement I can see. As far as the last clause, given that Islam is one of the three Abrahamic religions, and the many links mentioned in the lead paragraph of Judaism and Islam, the word profound seems an accurate description, and not puffery.
- To the IP: a short, assertive statement in the WP:LEAD is not an oversimplification, if it is a summary of content in the body of the article that demonstrates that the lead statement is correct and lays out the most important points without all the details excected in the body. Not everything can be crammed into the lead; remember that WP:LEAD is just a summary of the most important points of the body, and that sentence seems fine for the lead. (edit conflict) Mathglot (talk) 01:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Mathglot. Carlstak (talk) 02:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- "Jews authored the Bible, established Christianity, and influenced Islam." Moxy🍁 01:24, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- How would you want to reword it? Andre🚐 22:50, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, perhaps I was mistaken. I still think it might be beneficial to reword it in a way that doesn’t oversimplify things as much. 65.112.8.31 (talk) 11:30, 21 December 2024 (UTC)