Talk:John Murray (publishing house)

Add external link

Please add a link to <http://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/>, which is editing and publishing all of the correspondence of Charles Darwin. John Murray was a significant correspondent of Darwin. Eadp 14:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

The JM website link seems to go to something that has nothing to do with the case.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackiespeel (talk • contribs) 17:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Copyvio

I have some concerns about today's edits. They seem to have largely copied and pasted content from here:

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Could I ask that the most blatant copyvios be removed? --Mais oui! 19:09, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I removed all the copyvio material added by user 128.205.150.52 (talk · contribs) but retained the references. — Athænara ✉ 20:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. --Mais oui! 08:01, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Melville item

"One must also add that John Murray was one of the first publishers of Herman Melville.After his manuscript of a book based on his adventures in the Marquesas was rejected by Harper and Brothers in New York it was accepted by John Murray in London. This "Narrative of Four Months among the Natives of Valley of the Marquesas Islands" was later published as "Typee" by Wiley and Putman of New York."

The above was added to the John Murray archives section of the article by user 67.164.114.68 (talk · contribs). I moved it here as references which verify it are needed. If it is verified it should perhaps be in a different section. — Athaenara 22:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

John Murray the publisher vs. John Murray the publishing house

Before someone reverts my edit again: I saw that the two have been mixed together here and I don't know how the best way is to fix it. The article talks about both. I've come across other articles that mentioned John Murray either as the publisher or the house and both link here. I've not touch any since this one needs to be fixed first. I don't know how many article link here so is it even possible to fix it? If so I think we should have two separate articles. One on the publisher and one on the publishing house.--Nocturnalsleeper (talk) 13:12, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure the distinction is meaningful. What was the legal status of the publishing house? If it was a corporation, then we may be able to write on it; but if it was a partnership, or the property of John Murray Sr. or Jr., what is there to say? It was, at any given time, what the living John Murray was doing, and no more. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:22, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Until its takeover, John Murray Publishers was as far as I know (speaking as a former Editor under John Murray VII) always a private family-owned firm headed by the contemporarily senior John Murray (generally with his successor-to-be in a more junior position) as a full-time occupation. Because of this, contemporary references to "John Murray" often meant the publishing house or the individual interchangeably, because the business-related activities of the two were indistinguishable. I'm not aware that any of the seven John Murrays were notable for any activities unconnected with their primary positions, so to me it makes sense to subsume the individuals within their business. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 13:48, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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Requested move 23 May 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Pages moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 17:17, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

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• John Murray (publisher) → John Murray (publishing house)
• John Murray (1778–1843) → John Murray (publisher, born 1778)

– As has been previously mentioned (in 2008 and 2009, above at Talk:John Murray (publisher)#John Murray the publisher vs. John Murray the publishing house), anyone researching the publishing house or the generational publishers named "John Murray", will almost certainly type "John Murray" and sort it out at the disambiguation page, rather than type "John Murray (1778–1843)" or "John Murray III". The use of stand-alone vital dates as a qualifier should only appear as a last resort when no other disambiguation can be found, which does not seem to be the case here. As for John Murray (publisher), it should redirect to John Murray#Literature. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:26, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

• Support "Publisher" is an ambiguous term. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
• Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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