Talk:Killing of Michael Brown

No mention of BLM?

Why is there no mention of the fact that this is the incident that kick-started the Black Lives Matter movement? I see a refernce to BLM in the related articles but this was THE incident that made BLM into a prominent group. Any unbiased person who reads this, feel free to add it to the page, people should know that such a large movement was started over misinformation. 99.18.204.223 (talk) 23:51, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a weird thing to omit. I'll look into this tomorrow. Schierbecker (talk) 05:48, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Still undone? Here are the sources from the BLM article which can be used to add the necessary text. I suggest its level of importance would place the information after, "... unrest in Ferguson (then add) when the movement called Black Lives Matter began their first massive street demonstrations." See Day, Elizabeth (July 19, 2015). "#BlackLivesMatter: the birth of a new civil rights movement". The Guardian. And see Luibrand, Shannon (August 7, 2015). "Black Lives Matter: How the events in Ferguson sparked a movement in America". CBS News. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.23.199.194 (talk) 20:47, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

I concur - this event was at the root of what is now known as 'BLM'. 172.250.237.36 (talk) 16:48, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

I absolutely agree. But certain people are keeping a close eye on this article to push right wing narratives. Some of them appear to have some pull around here too. MysticStyles (talk) 16:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

The court case

The article reads quite oddly to me. There's a long section on "Investigations". Then there's a very long set of sections on the Grand Jury hearing. Between these, I would expect to find a statement "Wilson was charged with murder" (or maybe manslaughter/unlawful killing). But I see no such statement. I infer from all the Grand Jury stuff that he must have been so charged, but it's strange that the article doesn't explicitly say so. Maproom (talk) 21:53, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Jennings Disbandment

The portion of Darren Wilson's background that mentions his previous employment with the disbanded Jennings, MO PD should also mention the reason for the disbanding:

The small city of Jennings, Mo., had a police department so troubled, and with so much tension between white officers and black residents, that the city council finally decided to disband it. Everyone in the Jennings police department was fired. New officers were brought in to create a credible department from scratch.

From https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/darren-wilsons-first-job-was-on-a-troubled-police-force-disbanded-by-authorities/2014/08/23/1ac796f0-2a45-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

As the sections stands now, this portion of his history seems non sequitur. 2601:14A:600:1780:88B0:782B:F7CE:63FA (talk) 10:53, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Article being _targeted by racist/white nationalist contributors

Mike Brown was, objectively, a child at the time of his death. Several media outlets regularly referred to him as such while reporting on this story. Despite this, my edits to this article were repeatedly reverted by a racist troll, who is now threatening to have my ability to edit articles blocked. Be careful about adding factual information to this article, racists might _target you too. MysticStyles (talk) 16:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Do sources refer to Michael Brown as a "child"? More importantly, you are not assuming good faith about your fellow contributors by calling them a "racist troll". – Muboshgu (talk) 16:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

"One last point: I have zero tolerance for racists and Nazis. I will block you on sight"

I find this tidbit a bit ironic. I guess Mike Brown Sr. being quoted by mainstream sources several times isn't good enough for wikipedia. Whatever. You guys run the site, so you're the arbiters of truth when it comes to racist police killings. You win. Have a nice day!

MysticStyles (talk) 16:15, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

You're editing this article from your point of view, which is against WP:NPOV, one of the core pillars of Wikipedia. Racism is abhorrent. The editors you are accusing of being "racist trolls" have shown no evidence of racism, but are upholding NPOV. Have a read of the policy to better understand what might help you be a constructive contributor here. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

This was not homicide 184.155.118.38 (talk) 05:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

article is not neutral

While this article has the posture neutrality (very long, with many details), almost all of the "facts" serve to exonerate Wilson and condemn Brown. It quotes ONLY discredited witness testimony condemning Wilson, and reports ONLY witness testimony exonerating him: repeatedly specifying that witnesses who exonerated him were "black" (an obvious attempt to deflect potential critique that the testimony was racially motivated). It repeats supposed "facts" exonerating Wilson, for instance at least twice citing St. Louis County prosecutor Wesley Bell's inconclusive investigation: it makes it sound as if Bell exonerated Wilson, whereas Bell in fact said that the investigation did not exonerate Wilson: “the question of whether we can prove a case at trial is different than clearing him of any and all wrongdoing.” I don't know whether the article is "being _targeted by racist/white nationalist contributors," but the article is not neutral on its face, so should be reviewed by Wikipedia for factual accuracy and balanced viewpoint. 151.202.23.122 (talk) 03:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

It may be helpful to know that wikipedia is overwhelmingly white and male. AcademicPerfection (talk) 18:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

along these lines, why is the height and weight of Brown and Johnson noted and not the height and weight of Wilson? 45.46.25.29 (talk) 22:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)