Talk:King's Fund

Would it be possible for this page to be edited to reflect a more balanced view of the independence of The King's Fund in relation to the funding of the organisation? As I work for The King's Fund, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to make these edits. There is more information on this on our website: http://www.kingsfund.org.uk/about-us/how-we-raise-and-spend-our-money Honganhnguyen (talk) 10:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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Requested move 1 November 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Good arguments that in independent reliable sources "the" is not usually capitalised in running, thus we leave it out of the title per WP:THE. Jenks24 (talk) 10:04, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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King's Fund → The King's Fund – The is part of their proper name as seen by the prominence given to it in their logo, webpage etc. Already exists as a redirect. Philafrenzy (talk) 14:11, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:THE. Not generally capitalised in running text, as far as I can see. The BBC certainly doesn't usually. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:05, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

See usages on these pages plus the logo and their own homepage:

• https://twitter.com/thekingsfund?lang=en
• https://www.youtube.com/user/kingsfund
• http://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/category/kings-fund/
• https://www.sduhealth.org.uk/areas-of-focus/r-and-d/the-kings-fund.aspx
• https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmhealth/1583/1583we07.htm
• https://peopleshistorynhs.org/galleries/the-kings-fund/

You have to click through as it is often abbreviated in URLs but not generally otherwise. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:13, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

What they call themselves is irrelevant. Purely branding. It's what others call themselves that's important. Your fourth citation (SDU), incidentally, doesn't capitalise "the" in the running text! The others are either internal sources or have taken text directly from the organisation. Not sure what any of this proves other than that they capitalise their definite article. We already know that. It's not relevant. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:28, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

The fourth (sduhealth) does capitalise The. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:58, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Houses of Parliament: "Written evidence from The King’s Fund" and others. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:59, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Which is a direct quotation of the title of the King's Fund's own document! SDU: "This was the third workshop organised by the King’s Fund..." (so, no, not capitalised in running text as you claim above)! So, I repeat, there is no evidence it is most commonly capitalised in running text except by itself. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:10, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose per Necrothesp: WP:THE  — Amakuru (talk) 16:19, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.