Talk:Lærdal Tunnel

Latest comment: 2 months ago by BIL in topic speed

The caves -- allowing drivers to take a rest. Now is this true? As far as I know, stopping in tunnels, let alone taking a rest, is forbidden except in emergency. Norwegians, please confirm or delete this. --Oami 22:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

BBC says: "The caverns also have laybys to allow drivers to pull over and have a rest." (It's linked to from [1], the first external link.) →smably
I did that when I drove through the series of tunnels (total 50 km long) on E16. The caves were smaller than they loked like on photos, and noisy, because of passing vehicles. Its legal to stop shortly in the caves, but not to park, but it is not so fun. BIL 08:48, 2 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Was there any signs there? ZorroIII 16:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
I did that July this year, took the photo to the right. I think there was a sign "forbidden to park". It means that is legal to stop. Exactly what that sign means, in Sweden I think you can stop to let people get on and off or change places or get things from the luggage, but not much more. A car had stopped so I stopped also but just for a minute. The tunnel felt like any tunnel but very long. Anyway the 24 km felt much quicker than on a usual Norwegian fjord road. That vacation trip was Göteborg-Horten-Rjukan-Odda-Voss-Flåm-øvre Årdal-Galdhøpiggen-Geiranger-Ålesund-Kristiansund-Kongsvinger-Göteborg. Nice country you have really. I downloaded several photos [2] on WP. BIL 18:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
Didn't see the point of those caves, we just drove past them. Maybe it would be more interesting if there was a resturant there.—Preceding unsigned comment added by - (talkcontribs) 15 May 2007


Are there any references to support the claim that most newer tunnels in Norway are tolled? elygre 21:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

I made a little analysis, putting the list in List of further tunnels by length into Excel, filtering road tunnels built the last 15 years in Norway, and checking on Norwegian WP if they are tolled. This is the list:
    • Lærdal non-tolled
    • Folgefonn tolled
    • Korgfjellet non-tolled
    • Bømlafjord tolled
    • Åkrafjord tolled
    • Oslofjord tolled
    • Nordkapp tolled
    • Frudal tolled
    • Fodnes non-tolled
    • Naustdal tolled
    • Øksendal non-tolled
    • Hitra tolled
    • Frøya non-tolled
Summary 13 tunnels, 8 tolled, 5 non-tolled. One tendency is that if they replace a ferry (undersea) they are tolled, since ferries are tolled. But also some mountain tunnels are tolled. -- BIL 15:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
If I'm not entirely wrong, tunnels in stamvegnettet, i.e essential for transport between regions, should never be tolled. I don't know if this actually is a hard rule, but it seems to be quite a common way to handle it.
I don't believe it matters if the tunnell subsedes a ferry or not.
vidarlo 00:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)Reply
There is no such rule in place. The trend now seems to be that if there will be enough traffic on a new road to make tolling economically viable, the road will be tolled. We'll see if we can spot a trend when the next annual budget comes out. ZorroIII (talk) 08:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

The first two paragraphs of the first section of this article are basically the same thing said twice just worded different. I wasn't sure if I should just remove one of them so I thought I would bring it up here so we can decide what should be done.Mcmxl (talk) 04:04, 24 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Done. Zin92 (talk) 06:05, 5 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

still the longest tunnel??

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List_of_long_tunnels_by_type lists a longer tunnel: Túnel del Manzanares 24,931 km. Is the information in this article still up-to-date? Ondřej Kunčar (talk) 20:31, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

I researched into that. The only place I found saying that is the Spanish Wikipedia article on the tunnels on M-30 which claims it to be 24 km, but the sums of the tunnels on M-30 is more than the length of the M-30, no source, and the listed external link do not show the length. The Autopista de Circunvalación M-30 article says the longest tunnel is close to 10 km long. On my Hallwag paper road atlas, on www.viamichelin.com and on maps.google.com there is no such long tunnel. Using maps.google.com I can measure the tunnel to 8.8 km. I have put a citation needed tag on the info in List of long tunnels by type and in the Spanish article. I don't think the length is correct. The tunnel might be under construction or very new.--BIL (talk) 23:16, 10 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

speed

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Has anyone (i.e., The Stig) ever been allowed to try to set a speed record through the tunnel? Just a random thought while watching Top Gear reruns... :) Wl219 (talk) 07:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

I highly doubt that this would get permission by Norwegian authorities. A crash would be severe in the tunnel. They are strict about speeding with severe penalites. Highest penalised speed was 180 according a media source [3] and such a speeding gives according to Norwegian Wikipedia 3 years license cancellation.--BIL (talk) 20:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

cost

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The article says the tunnel cost 1.082 billion kroner or 113 million USD. The latter figure seems way to small for 25 km of tunnel. I think in Norway they may use a comma not a dot for the decimal separator. Perhaps the USD figure should be 113 billion? 2.27.86.200 (talk) 17:10, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

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