Talk:M67 grenade

"Frag Out"

The M67 can be thrown about 40 meters by the average soldier??? lol! I'd say something like 10 or 15 would be more reasonable.

→ Perhaps you can't throw a grenade 40 meters (~131 feet), but the Army training manual disagrees with your wild guess. --75.24.94.239 20:33, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

This isn't far fetched, 40 meters is achieveable (keep in mind, this is considered to be about the maximum throwing distance). But then again, perhaps I'm not your average soldier :P --Evilbred (talk) 22:57, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

20-35 meters should be archievable by any adult, male or female, that keeps his/her body in shape. And the grenade explodes just as well if you do that. Skilled throwers can go 60 meters with that weight while exhibiting accuracy, because by using brute force they could go even further. But i still ask: why is the fuse so long? 188.104.109.106 (talk) 04:36, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Safety. Say you drop the grenade in the act of cocking back to throw it. You can technically "cook" the grenade (Release the spoon and let the fuze (Yes, that's the correct spelling. A fuse burns exposed, a fuze is enclosed.) burn for a second or two) if you want it to go off closer to you. (Dropping it down a stairwell while defending a roof position or slinging it around a corner, for example.) That's discouraged in a training environment, though, because it's dangerous as all get-out. However, in combat, it's quite a bit safer than letting a threat get in close. Bob the Cannibal (talk) 10:05, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Steps in throwing a grenade

Edited the steps of activation as taught to me by the Canadian Army. --Comm 21:11, 29 January 2008.

• Eeh, do we really need to have it? Seems kind of suspicious to me... 84.249.50.213 (talk) 21:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
• I think sources are needed for it to stay. Mark5677 (talk) 05:57, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Used in Nam

While this article says this grenade was post-Vietnam, it was in use at least by 1971, and was referred to as the "baseball grenade" due to its round shape and size, similar to that of a baseball. I went thru basic and AIT during spring and summer of 1971, and was given the distinct impression that this model was indeed the current model in use and I never saw any other type of grenade either during training or while in country.69.29.207.109 (talk) 13:09, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe then you know why it was so slow? 4.0–5.5 seconds seems awfully slow to me, how did you experience that? And i believe you, but for Wikipedia sources are needed. I would be scared by that thing, 4.0 to 5.5 just seems awful. How do you see that? I ask: why so long?188.104.109.106 (talk) 04:20, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes indeed, that's the range of time delay. We were taught that you could "cook off" the grenade by releasing the spoon and waiting for a second or two before throwing to reduce the chance of the enemy throwing it back or the like. However, we were also told there was some risk in this as some fuses could be shorter than standard. I suspect the 4 to 5 second time is to allow a bit of a safety factor for short fuses and other problems. Wschart (talk) 18:23, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

History section

How about removing the History section? The article is about a specific hand grenade model, but the history section gives a generic overview of all grenades (which is largely replicated at Hand Grenade). I'll come back and remove it in a few days if there are no objections. Mark5677 (talk) 05:55, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Revision

I think that this is more along the lines of something out of the army training manual. This is an encyclopedia (well kinda but its considered one) and should have more information on the grenade and some history on it rather than how to use it. Its not like your average american gets their hands on one of these everyday if they ever can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atvrider365 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

4.0-5.5 second fuse.... Why?

Im no expert, but this puzzles me. Maybe they just did not have the skills to make better timers back then. It seems awfully long, more than enough to throw it back. If i would be close to a tank, lets say between 5 and 15 metres, i would want to set it somewhere between 0.5 and 2.5 seconds, depending on the distance and the throw i want to do.

Maybe someone does have knowledge about this? Why so long? With my current juggling skills and if i were to throw shrapnel grenades or stun grenades, i would appreciate a range between 0.6 and 3 seconds, with very small gradients inbetween, especially in the 0.6 to 1.5 second range. Does anyone know or have sources on why that timer is so long? There has to be a reason, technical or practical. 188.104.109.106 (talk) 03:49, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

The Russians had and may still have a grenade where the fuse and detonator could be replaced simply unscrewing one and screwing in another. In other words the delay time could be changed. One of the choices was a delay time of 0.0 sec. Is that short enough for ya?! That delay was used as a booby trap. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.32.39.11 (talk) 16:37, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

A new twist on the old grenade

http://www.stripes.com/improved-grenade-design-on-the-way-1.221102 Production on M67 grenades with this new feature has already begun and the grenades are already in the Army ammunition supply system, Cummings said. Soldiers should see them very soon.

Is there a designation change for the new design? Hcobb (talk) 00:33, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Fuse 3 seconds ?

The Overview claims that the fuse (M213) is a 3 second fuse. I looked at the reference, http://www.umass.edu/armyrotc/Training/grenades.pdf, and see that it claims that the delay is 4 - 5 seconds (other sources claim 4 - 5.5 s). I am changing it. Not sure if "3 second fuse" contradicts the delay time of 4 - 5.5 sec., but it sure doesn't inform anyone. Note that my change makes the Overview consistent with the table.Abitslow (talk) 11:31, 14 November 2013 (UTC)