Talk:Mickey Cohen
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Questionability to burial plaque (no picture), no source of birthplace.
editMickey Cohen was born on September 4, 1914, of a Jewish family in Brooklyn, New York (his burial plaque says 1914). His mother Fanny had immigrated to the U.S. from Kiev, Ukraine. Between 1916 and 1919, Fanny moved with Mickey and his sister Lillie to the Boyle Heights section of Los Angeles and opened a grocery and drug store.
Although I haven't seen the tombstone, even if the year is right, I'm sure it didn't say where he was born on it. If it did, get a picture and use it as a source on here. I'm also not sure how you estimated the years of when he moved to Los Angeles. TomNyj0127 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:02, 5 September 2009 (UTC).
Where are have you seen Ukraine in 1914? Kiev is a town in Russian Empire in this year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.8.126.239 (talk) 18:58, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
a poor man's Mickey Rooney
editknew everyone in hollywood? did he know Kirk Douglas,Fred Astaire,Henry Fonda,Gregory Peck? since most big name hollywood actresses are hos, I pick some lesser known ones.. did he know June Allyson,Jennifer Jones,Janet Leigh,or Dorothy Mcguire.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.213.7.72 (talk) 07:44, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
General
editPoor grammar throughout, requires general editing. Also some factual errors, e.g. Gangster Squad dates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.230.237.50 (talk) 21:26, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
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Proposed merge with Cohen crime family
edit- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- No objection raised in >two months, so I'm, proceeding with the merger. Coretheapple (talk) 21:00, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
I've performed a diligent search and can find no evidence that there was an actual "Cohen crime family." Cohen had people in his employ for a time, and they can be listed here under a suitable section.
Cohen crime family contains extensive text, especialy in the lead and background sections ("Murder Inc," "Castellamarese War," etc.) that appear to be totally unrelated to Cohen and/or contain original research insofar as they claim that a "crime family" per se existed. While I am new to the article and unfamiliar with its creation and development, it reads like some Wikipedia editor's personal exposition on the subject, much of it unsourced and synthesis. The usable parts of that article, if any, can be merged to this article. Coretheapple (talk) 14:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Undoing the merge
editSee my response at Talk:Cohen crime family#Article issues. Also note the existence of List of Cohen crime family members and Template:Cohen crime family (Template:Las Vegas crime family). Also Template:Las Vegas crime family (1946) and Template:Las Vegas crime family (1949) – wbm1058 (talk) 01:59, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
"Jewish-American gangster"
editRe this edit: While the anonymous editor was of course wrong to insert commentary, his point is a good one. We don't call Al Capone or John Gotti "Italian-American gangsters" in the lead. Coretheapple (talk) 14:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Correct, that shouldn’t be in the lead, however someone had completely removed his ethnicity from his early life section, I’m assuming because they have some bias or agenda. I kept it out of the lead, but put it back in his early life. InBoxed (talk) 01:21, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
- @InBoxed: That was me. No, it wasn't bias or agenda. It was sourcing. He was indeed of Jewish background, I think that is well established, but it has to be in the sourcing. Can't be hard to find. But no, it was not in the obituary that I pulled form the LA Times. Coretheapple (talk) 15:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- I found a source. There are probably better ones. Coretheapple (talk) 18:42, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Mickey Cohen
editWhat was cause of death? 2601:403:C200:4170:4055:B7F8:AE66:9C34 (talk) 23:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
- The answer is there, and you would have found it if you had read below the fold. The lead section is short – just a sentence long, actually. It would be reasonable to expand the lead to include cause of death. – wbm1058 (talk) 11:21, 10 September 2023 (UTC)