Talk:Monster Island (play-by-mail game)

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:14, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that besides exploring an island continent larger than Australia, players could use magic and make "Zombie Juice" in the award-winning play-by-mail game Monster Island? Source: Richard L. Smith, (1997). "Monster Island: Land of Discovery". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. Jan/Feb 1997 (#82): 7, and Phil Breault, (1992). "A Visit to Monster Island". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. May/June 1992 (#56): 16.
• ALT1:... that Monster Island won the Origins Award for Best New Play By Mail Game of 1990? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20071214000644/http://www.originsgamefair.com/awards/1990/list-of-winners
• ALT2:... that Monster Island was one of the longest-running play-by-mail games by 1997? Source: Steven DuBois, (1997). "Monster Island: A Review". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. Jan/Feb 1997 (#82): pp. 4.
• Reviewed: This is my first DYK nomination so I believe I have a grace period of a few nominations before required reviews.

Created by Airborne84 (talk) and BOZ (talk). Nominated by Airborne84 (talk) at 05:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: I prefer ALT1 to the original hook for these reasons: "use magic" is not that uncommon in games; what "Zombie Juice" is is not explained in the article; and just as a whole the hook seems to try to cram together 4 disparate bits of trivia. ALT1 passes and is more interesting than ALT2. (Though to be honest, I would have used something like "you play a monster"; or if you prefer longer, even "the players play monsters learning magic and exploring an island continent larger than Australia"; as that seems the most unique bit in my humble opinion. Games that involve monsters are pretty common, but they usually are the adversaries, not the protagonists.) Other than that, none of these below are DYK blocking as such, but would be nice to fix.

• Could you consolidate multiple uses of the same reference, per WP:REFNAME?
• They also seem redundant with much or all of the Bibliography, I'd remove the ones already used in the refs, we probably don't want to repeat ourselves.
• I'd remove the "See also" links to Paper Mayhem and Play-by-mail game since those appear prominently in the body, and would be hard to miss by readers of the article. (Or per MOS:NOTSEEALSO for the official guideline.) The list of games can stay.
• Have you considered using {{infobox game}} to organize the standard information? Not a requirement, some people are religiously opposed to infoboxes, but in this case it seems things like designer, years, official site, etc., could be organized well therein. GRuban (talk) 17:03, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! All good comments on the article. I'll make the changes. Much appreciated! Airborne84 (talk) 03:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK

Looks like this one will be on the main page for April 7. :) BOZ (talk) 18:33, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

:) Airborne84 (talk) 03:17, 7 April 2020 (UTC)