Talk:Revelation of the Magi

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• ... that the Biblical Magi dispense mysterious vision-inducing foods in the Revelation of the Magi, proposed to be an account of ritual hallucinogen intake?

• Source: Landau, Brent (2017). "Under the Influence (of the Magi): Did Hallucinogens Play a Role in the Inspired Composition of the Pseudepigraphic Revelation for the Magi?". In Fakes, Forgeries, and Fictions, a monograph collection. It's not online... but you can read chapter titles at https://www.tonyburke.ca/fakes-forgeries-and-fictions/ ... and I think just the title of this work is sufficient!

• ALT1: ... that the Revelation of the Magi, a Christian work in Syriac, is proposed to describe ritual hallucinogen intake, perhaps of hallucinogenic mushrooms? Source: See above.
• ALT2: ... that the Star of Bethlehem transforms into a glowing celestial human child in the Revelation of the Magi, a Christian work in Syriac? Source: https://www.academia.edu/207910 (title alone also probably sufficient here, but full work online)
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• Comment: I prefer the original or ALT1. Providing ALT2 mostly in case people really, really don't want to include the drug use. (I don't think ALT2 fails the DYKFICTION as fiction & mythology are two different things IMO and describing mythology / religion is okay, but mentioning that issue here if you want to be a stickler about real-world stuff.)

Converted from a redirect by SnowFire (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

SnowFire (talk) 21:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC).

• Article is new enough and long enough. No copyright violations detected, and it appears to be within policy. Hook facts are interesting, and check out to the sources. Hook lengths are good. My only issue is I do think we need to make it clear that it is only one scholar suggesting/proposing the hallucinogen mushroom theory. This isn't a claim that we can say is widely proposed. Once the hook is modified accordingly I can approve it. Best.4meter4 (talk) 01:12, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
  • ALT0B ... that the Biblical Magi dispense mysterious vision-inducing foods in the Revelation of the Magi, proposed by a scholar to be an account of ritual hallucinogen intake?
  • ALT1B: ... that the Revelation of the Magi, a Christian work in Syriac, is proposed by a scholar to describe ritual hallucinogen intake, perhaps of hallucinogenic mushrooms?
  • @4meter4: I've created variants above to address the concern. For what it's worth, on the original hooks are fine... I agree that for most topics, "just one scholar" is insufficient, but in the case of this work, there are basically just ~4-5 scholars who have published on it in English, and the scholar proposing this is the one who's published the most. (Not that quantity is a substitute for quality, of course.) That said, it's not a big deal to add two words. SnowFire (talk) 01:27, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Approving hooks ALT0B and ALT1B. Both I and the nominator prefer the ALT1B hook, but either is usable. Good work SnowFire!4meter4 (talk) 01:33, 28 November 2024 (UTC)