Talk:Steak/GA1

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Reviewer: Biblioworm (talk · contribs) 01:27, 25 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

@EuroCarGT: Here are my comments:

  • Is the article well-written? - There are quite a few minor issues, but they should not be difficult to fix.
    • In a larger sense, there are also fish steaks, ground meat steaks, and so on.
      • "And so on" may not sound too encyclopedic. Perhaps "etc." would be better?
  Done
    • As a "top-quality ingredient" beef steaks "are perfect if properly grilled"[1] but they can be pan-fried, or broiled.
      • Change to "As a "top-quality ingredient", beef steaks "are perfect if properly grilled"[1], but they can be pan-fried, or broiled.
  Done
    • Steak can also be cooked in sauce, such as in steak and kidney pie, or minced and formed into patties such as hamburgers.
      • Add comma between "patties" and "such".
  Done
    • The trade in steaks from bushmeat is a serious threat to biodiversity.
      • This could be clarified a bit. Is this sentence trying to say that bushmeat is becoming more common than steak, vice versa, or something else?
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    • Grilled Portobello mushroom may be called mushroom steak and similarly for other vegetarian dishes.
      • Add comma between "steak" and "and".
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    • The word steak originates from the mid-15th century Scandinavian word steik or stickna' in the Middle English dialect along with the Old Norse word steikja.
      • Comma between "steik" and "or", as well as between "dialect" and "along"
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    • Subsequent parts of the entry, however, refer to "steak fish" which referred to "cod of a size suitable for cutting into steaks" and also "steak-raid" which was a custom among Scottish Highlanders of giving some cattle being driven through a gentleman's land to the owner.
      • Change to "Subsequent parts of the entry, however, refer to "steak fish", which referred to "cod of a size suitable for cutting into steaks", and also "steak-raid", which was a custom among Scottish Highlanders of giving some cattle being driven through a gentleman's land to the owner."
  Done
    • Such countries include especially Argentina, Ireland, New Zealand, South Africa, the United States and the United Kingdom.
      • I don't think "especially" is needed.
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    • In Asian countries, such as China and Korea, steak is traditionally more often sliced and stir-fried and served in smaller amounts as part of a mixed dish.
      • "...traditionally more often..." sounds strange and could probably just be shortened to "traditionally".
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    • Cattle breeds such as Hereford or Aberdeen Angus, date back to the 1700s and a handful of farmers continue to raise cattle sired by registered pedigree bulls.
      • The comma between "Angus" and "date" should be deleted, and a new one should be added between "1700s" and "and".
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    • Beef production is the largest single agriculture in the United States with 687,540 farms raising cattle and over a million in the production process as of the 2007 Agriculture Census.
      • Add comma between "States" and "with", as well as between "process" and "as".
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    • On average, a single farm typically raises about 50 cattle at a time with 97 percent of the cattle farms classified as one of these small family farms.
      • Add comma between "time" and "with".
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    • The outside is seared for flavor while the inside is cooked to suit the diner's preference.
      • Add comma between "flavor" and "while".
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    • Fish steaks are generally cooked for a short time as the flesh cooks quickly, especially when grilled.
      • Add comma between "time" and "as".
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    • The cuts of steak are quite dissimilar between countries owing to the different ways of cutting up the carcass, with the result that a steak found in one country is not the same as in another, although the recipes may be the same, differing "only in their sauces, butters or garnitures".
      • This sentence is too long and could be broken into a couple of separate ones.
  Done
    • Steak has become a popular dish in many places around the world, cooked in domestic as well as professional kitchens and is often a primary ingredient in a menu.
      • Add comma between "kitchens" and "and".
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    • Steak has also been an important breakfast dish especially for people undertaking hard outdoor work, such as farmers.
      • Add comma between "dish" and "especially".
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    • When ordering steak at a restaurant it is common practice to advise the chef or person taking orders of how you would like your steak cooked.
      • Add comma between "restaurant" and "it".
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    • Print references to the word "rare" go back at least to the 17th century (c)1615)
      • The last part of this sentence is messed up with all the stray parenthesis. Perhaps it could just be simplified to "circa 1615".
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    • Steak and other meat products can now be frozen and exported, but before the invention of commercial refrigeration transporting meat over long distances was impossible.
      • Add comma between "refrigeration" and "transporting".
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    • Communities had to rely on what was locally available which in turn determined the forms and tradition of meat consumption.
      • Change to "Communities had to rely on what was locally available, which, in turn, determined the forms and tradition of meat consumption."
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    • Beef steak is graded for quality with higher prices for higher quality.
      • Add comma between "quality" and "with".
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    • The quality and safety of steak as a food product is regulated by law. In Australia, there are National Meat Accreditation standards;[42] in Canada, there is the Canadian Beef Grading Agency;[43] in the United Kingdom, the Food Standards Agency is responsible;[44] and in the United States, beef is graded by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) as select, choice or prime,[45] where "prime" refers to beef of the highest quality, typically that which has significant marbling.
      • I think starting a sentence with a conjunction is generally considered to be bad form, so the "and" just after the "[44]" citation could probably be deleted.
  Done
    • There is a wide range of quickly prepared and well-known beef steak dishes including Minute steak, steak sandwiches, steak and eggs.
      • Add comma between "dishes" and "including". There should also be an "and" before "steak and eggs".
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    • "Surf and turf", which combines meat and fish requires more time to prepare.
      • Add comma between "fish" and "requires".
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    • Steak meat is also often minced, shredded, chopped finely or re-formed to create a range of dishes including steak burger that retain the name "steak".
      • Add comma between "including" and "steak". Also, "burger" could be changed to "burgers".
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    • It is closely similar to the Salisbury steak.
      • "...closely similar..." is repetitive and should just be changed to "similar".
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    • Made popular worldwide by the migrating Germans, it became a mainstream dish in around the start of the nineteenth century.
      • Unneeded "in" between "dish" and "around".
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    • Its development started from the 1970s.
      • Change "from" to "in".
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    • Shoulder steaks are cut from the same primal cut of meat most commonly used for pulled pork, and can be quite tough without long cooking times due to the high amount of collagen in the meat, therefore, pork shoulder steaks are often cooked slower than a typical beef steak, and may be stewed or simmered in barbecue sauce during cooking.
      • Change the comma between "meat" and "therefore" to a semicolon.
  Done
  • Is the article verifiable? - Yes
  • Is the article broad? - Yes.
  • Is the article neutral? - Yes.
  • Is the article stable? - Yes.
  • Is the article illustrated? - Yes.

Result: I'll put this   On hold for now. If you make the minor fixes to the sentences that I mentioned above, the article should pass rather easily. I would also recommend grouping sections 7-11 under a larger heading called "Types". (I'm probably not that great of a reviewer, because I'm tempted to go and fix the issues myself rather than type them out and wait for someone else to fix them.  ) --Biblioworm 19:37, 25 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, will do in a bit. ///EuroCarGT 21:15, 25 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
@Biblioworm: These outstanding issues have been resolved. --NickPenguin(contribs) 23:27, 25 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Very well. I will get back to you in a few minutes with the results. --Biblioworm 23:28, 25 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
@EuroCarGT and NickPenguin: Thank you for your improvements; the article looks much better.  Pass --Biblioworm 23:46, 25 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
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