Talk:The Hard Times of RJ Berger

RJ's Bio

Since when did a black girl give him oral sex as well? I thought it was just Natsumi Mjbfhs7 (talk) 23:12, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Inclusion of Minor Characters?

Why is Claire featured on the Character list? She has only been in 2 episodes and it appears as though she is not slated to appear again. We should keep the Character roster limited to main characters. --- Kamots (talk) 02:55, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
I Agree Mjbfhs7 (talk) 04:11, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

di she just like leave or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaoman1 (talk • contribs) 03:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

International broadcasters

For those contributing to this article, please note that while Wikipedia's Manual of Style (television) says that articles on television shows can include "the broadcast history of a show (to keep neutrality and make sure that Wikipedia is not seen as the American Wikipedia, it would be beneficial to the article to have any international broadcasters listed as well)", such a broadcast history needs to be verified by reliable sources. The table on international broadcasters was removed,[1] but such information is preferably presented in prose instead of either a table or a list. Basically, if you want to add a broadcaster, please cite it. Thanks. Cliff smith ^talk 01:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

There needs to be more than just a link to WP:VERIFY or show that Hard Times was briefly broadcast by a certain network some time in the past that we can no longer be sure is true. There must be something extra to establish why it is notable to mention these International broadcasters. For example the television series Friends has a section explaining that UK broadcasters competed for the show and paid a lot of money for the rights and this was covered in newspapers helping establish that it was WP:NOTABLE.

International broadcasters have been added again but they should be removed unless some extra notability is established. -- Horkana (talk) 21:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Well, as for Canada, the show is broadcast on a different channel (not MTV, as is the case in other countries), so I could understand mentioning that. Cliff smith ^talk 17:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Why does the inclusion of a "broadcast history of a show (to keep neutrality", also "make sure that Wikipedia is not seen as the American Wikipedia". Doesn't the rest of the world have a history? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 07:12, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Horkana, if indeed it was you who made the above comment at a time in the past that might not be relevant, the inclusion of international distribution of a television programme goes to the heart of notability of the programme. If noöne but the initial commissioner of a programme has interest in it then it is generally considered a failure. That with THTORJB it is being shown on MTV in most countries does not take away from those places where a different company acquired rights and has/is showing the programme nor does it mean that MTV is compelled to show THTORJB internationally on their own channels just because they made the programme for their American channel. The list of international distribution is not itself notable but actually serves to reïnforce the notability of a programme. Programmes that are not popular do not get dubbed in French, Russian, German, Spanish, Polish, Portuguese, Hebrew, Arabic, etc. So yes, it ought to be referenced that the said programme was shown in Q country on P channel beginning on J date and was shown in K language (if applicable). As a bonus it helps balance out a little bit the overwhelming Americanism of coverage of English television programmes on Wikipedia.
So a lot of money was paid for Friends. I can say the same for Good Girls Don't... and you have probably never heard of the latter.
Alas, we will never know if i am addressing your comments or if those comments come from someone who signed your user name or who got into the database and altered the record there because we can never be sure of the reliability of and what is indicated by the page history. This would be me demonstrating application of your declaration that the age of a statement (reference) is inversely proportional to its accuracy at the time it was made. By that logic the oldest articles on Wikipedia ought to qualify for speedy deletion as pure vandalism. Every record that denotes anything happened is newer than the event it denotes but by far the majority of records are older than what you appear to accept for broadcast history of a television programme. Do we remove William Shakespeare from Wikipedia because noöne is alive today to write a fresh first-hand witness to his existence? Perhaps noöne murdered Julius Cæsar because he was really just some peasant girl's imaginary boyfriend. Maybe Nero never really played the violin. Challenging the reliability of references purely because they are not from today's newspaper helps nothing and noöne. The consequence of such strikes to not only the core of Wikipedia but of our own existence.
Lastly, you might want to look at what you write. "There needs to be more than just a link to WP:VERIFY..." yet if one reads the first sentence of that linked policy they would find "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability..." It might be my feeble, unreliable mind but those read as blatant contradictions. delirious & lost ☯ ^~hugs~ 08:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Big Gift?

I came to this page to find out more about the show as I've seen it advertised. Can't we just say that RJ has a very large penis, instead of the ridiculous euphemisms, like his big gift? Snorgle (talk) 22:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

WP:NOTCENSORED. A real encyclopedia would not be so shy or evasive about it. I changed the wording. Be bold, make changes. The article might need more rephrasing to avoid keeping the tone too much like the press releases. -- Horkana (talk) 00:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

I restored the quote's original wording and re-worded the character description, as Wikipedia is indeed not censored (but we don't really change quotations either). Cliff smith ^talk 17:10, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Why did the makers think that a pornographic theme would make an otherwise censored "teen" show more successful? I suppose it is part of the general amorality and sexual perversion of American TV, and society (which mirrors TV as much as the other way around). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 07:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Tale of RJ.

The article does not mention the "Tale of RJ" short film, starring Christopher Mintz-Plasse (see also fun fact below), that was made before the Hard Times of RJ Berger pilot. Link to trailer on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrnDYuGPPiU

93.95.251.162 (talk) 10:17, 19 July 2011 (UTC) Martin.

Fun fact: plasser is the Dutch word for wiener. 93.95.251.162 (talk) 10:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC) Martin.

is/was

If it was canceled, why does it still say "The Hard Times of R.J. Berger is an American television... ect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.172.250 (talk) 07:16, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

• It was just canceled. It is still american and still a TV series, just not a current one. Look at the articles on Miami Vice, Green Acres, The Munsters or any other American tv series that has been cancelled for over 20 years.....they all use the same format. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:19, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

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