Talk:The Queen of Hearts (poem)

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References

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Probably our most important sourcer, this quotes the poem in its original context, gives details of its development, and tells of how it was used by later authors. Start at about page 93.

Reichertz, Ronald (2000). The making of the Alice books. McGill-Queen's Press. ISBN 0773520813. Retrieved 2009-07-29.

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Carroll, Lewis (1865). Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Project Gutenberg. Retrieved 2009-07-29.

Notes:

The poem is quoted directly in the text of Chapter XI..

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Fordyce, Rachel (1994). Semiotics and linguistics in Alice's world. Walter de Gruyter. ISBN 3110138948. Retrieved 2009-07-29. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

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Lamb, Charles (1805). The King and Queen of Hearts:. Thomas Harkins, Highway Street, London. Retrieved 2009-07-29. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

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Auerbach, Nina (1973). "Alice and Wonderland: A Curious Child". Victorian Studies. 17 (1). Indiana University Press: 31–47. doi:10.2307/3826513. Retrieved 2009-07-29. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |doi_brokendate= ignored (|doi-broken-date= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

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Zipes, Jack; Paul, Lissa; Vallone, Lynne; Hunt, Peter; Avery, Gillian, ed. (2005). The Norton Anthology of Children's Literature: The Traditions in English. New York: W. W. Norton and Co. p. 1138. ISBN 0-393-97538-X.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: editors list (link)

• • PDF available. Awadewit (talk) 20:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Nursery rhymes

The explanation of nursery rhymes at the end of the first section of "Synopsis and structure" is an awkward aside. I added a link to nursery rhyme which should render it unnecessary. Long Shrift (talk) 01:30, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree. That was the only part of the article that seemed awkward to me when I read it. It should either be better integrated or removed, IMO, as it does seem like an awkward digression. Kaldari (talk) 17:42, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

So removed. Long Shrift (talk) 11:38, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on the DYK!

Well done. :) Enigma^msg 20:31, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

So...

I'm surprised there's no mention of Iona and Peter Opie's plausible argument that the "Queen of Hearts" poem is the original and the verses about the other queens a later addition. Unfortunately I can't lay hands on my copy of their book right now.... 91.105.3.74 (talk) 23:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Audio version

I was trying to record my voice reading the poem, but my voice is a little high-pitched - and I can't find any WMA - to - OGG converters (I'm in Windows, the sound recorder crashes in Linux) Could anyone try? --Misterλ ^(TλLK) 00:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I have put up a rudimentary one. See what you think, and tell me if there is anything I could improve.

You might want to try downloading Audacity, a great sound recorder and editor that is licensed under the GPL. NW (Talk) 01:28, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

File:Knave of Hearts Mother Goose2.jpg to appear as POTD soon

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Knave of Hearts Mother Goose2.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on November 19, 2010. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2010-11-19. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! howcheng {chat} 22:56, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Picture of the day

In the poem "The Queen of Hearts", the titular queen bakes some tarts, which are then stolen by the Knave of Hearts (shown here). The King of Hearts has the Knave punished, so he brings them back and pledges not to steal again. The poem was published anonymously in 1782, along with three lesser-known stanzas, all about characters based on playing cards.Artist: W. W. Denslow; Restoration: Lise Broer

Knave - captialisation

I agree that the first letter in Knave as in 'Knave of Hearts' should be capitalised, but other references to 'Knave' I believe should be in lower case as in 'knave' as it's a word meaning male servant. Anyone else agree? 124.254.78.121 (talk) 04:44, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Juice Newton song

Is it worth bringing up the song by Juice Newton called "Queen of Hearts" as a Legacy item or something? Just asking. Shocking Blue (talk) 09:54, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Never mind; it is in the disambiguation page, so that's enough. Shocking Blue (talk) 13:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)