Talk:Wilden, Worcestershire

Latest comment: 18 years ago by DonBarton in topic Bedfordshire

Pratts Wharf

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I am surprised at what has been stated here as to the identity of Pratt from whom Pratt's wharf takes its name. My information was that the name appears on a canal map thought to date from the 1770s. Furthermore, an association with James Pratt who was a parter in Wilden ironworks from 1779 seems more probable that that with a resident of Worcester much later. I may be wrong, but please provide furhter justification. Peterkingiron 23:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Peter, a good job I put my source for this discussion. I will take up your comments with the author of the piece. He has not attributed his source in the short piece he wrote for the Stourport Civic Society Newsletter. I have known him for just over 30 years but like you I am not always trusting of oral information and increasingly finding that written historical sources are doing little more than repeating previous authors who have never gone back to the primary sources. I certainly didn't go to primary sources when I added this paragraph. --DonBarton 00:13, 2 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
Don, any chance of asking the Civic Society's author for his source? My information was from a reputable canal historian who cited a contemporary (but undated map), which I have not yet examined. I would like to be able definitely to pin down the date of the lock linking the canal and river, if possible. My experience that oral sources for history are unreliable for periods much beyond living memory. What Grandma told me that she saw is credible, but rarely anything more remote. This of course does not apply to anything firmly based on a written source, but I generally prefer to identify and examine the source for myself. Peterkingiron 15:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Bedfordshire

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Some one had added a link to this article to a Bedfordshire page. This is wrong because the article is about a place in Worcestershire. If there is another Wilden in Beds., the correct course of action is to move the present article to be Wilden (Worcs.) and create a new article about the place in Bedfordshire; perhpas there should also be one about Wilden Ferry, where the Trent and Mersey Canal joins the River Trent. Peterkingiron 15:47, 23 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Just checked on the map and there is indeed a Wilden village about 4/5 miles noth of Bedford so I will amend this present article to Wilden (Worcs.) and I will create a Wilden (Beds.) link on the Bedfordshire villages page. --DonBarton 20:21, 10 October 2006 (UTC)Reply
And I've further moved it to Wilden, Worcestershire to bring it in line with the usual format for places needing disambiguation. I think I've fixed any double redirects. Loganberry (Talk) 00:13, 5 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for that Loganberry. --DonBarton 00:15, 9 November 2006 (UTC)Reply
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