Template talk:Clarifyref

Can you not use Template:Clarify to note issues with citation styles?

Moved from User talk:SMcCandlish

Firstly, that's not what the template is for. Secondly, this sort of thing does not need to be tagged. If you don't want to fix it yourself, leave it alone.--Dodo bird (talk) 22:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

{{Clarifyref}} and {{Clarifyref2}}, which are subst'd to produce these cleanup requests, have been around for over four years without objection, and that is precisely what they are for. If you think they should use some base template other than {{Clarify}}, that's a discussion for Template talk:Clarify, not my talk page. To address your complaint anyway, there is certainly no consensus that improvement to sourcing (one of the most common types of cleanup request, in various forms from inline templates to huge warning banners at the top of the article) is suddenly exempt from cleanup requests. On the other hand, if you are one of the editors who keeps pasting in "drive-by" bare URLs as if they are actual source citations, please stop. You are doing nothing but creating more work for other editors and making the article's reliability more, not less, suspect, since such URL additions are indistinguishable from various violations of WP:SPAM, WP:EL, WP:COI, WP:VANDAL, etc., until someone actually goes and checks them out to see what they are, that they are presumptively reliable and not someone's blog or store, actually pertain to the article they're being cited in, etc., etc. When fully specified per WP:CITE, citations are very rarely fake (mostly just cases of WP:CIVILPOV if they are problematic), because it takes work to do them properly, and disruptive editors won't bother. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ^⊝כ^⊙þ Contrib. 22:41, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Followup: I wasn't available at the time to say so (and won't be again, for an indeterminate amount of time), but I support the idea at the end of the TfD[1] to repurpose Template:Full as a replacement for Template:Clarifyref and Clarifyref2, and then redir them to Template:Full. I think that the TfD didn't close with a consensus to do anything because of my absence, after I'd been the principal "KEEP" !voter. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ^⊝כ^⊙þ Contrib. 19:41, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Redirected

{{Full}} now serves the function these templates were created to fulfill, and is widely adopted, so I've redirected {{Clarifyref}} and {{Clarifyref2}} to it. Going this route appears to have been the only progressive solution proposed at the first TfD, and I would have !voted in support of it had I been around. I've been the principal defender of these templates since I created them, anyway.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  09:59, 25 October 2014 (UTC)