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Death of Kurt Cobain

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How's about you and me get together and figure out how to save this article? Specifically, there needs to be weight to the most notable and verifiable theory - suicide. We should also discuss the events leading to his death, as that is very relevant to this article. I suggest we remake the article in a subpage of one of our user pages and then link it in the talk page and see what the reaction is. I'd understand if you don't have the time to do something like this, but even if you don't contribute heavily, I'd appreciate your input anyway. Hazillow (talk) 02:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

List of early emo groups

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WNNX/WWWQ

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Hey, 99X Online should have a page of its own since it is still an existing radio station online and on HD-2 right? --Rwils (talk) 01:45, 5 July 2008 (UTC)Reply



Hey, I have a few questions for you. You do realize that the call letters WWWQ are following Q100 over to 99.7fm, the WNNX call letter will be replaced by the new call letters of the new station that's premiering on 100.5fm right? --Rwils (talk) 17:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


Truce. I disagree with you, you disagree with me. Neither of us is getting anywhere by going at each other's edits. I have a lot of information that isn't necessarily "public" yet and was editing based on that, but apparently that's not good enough. Fine. It's unfortunate that happens to be Wiki policy, but I understand the necessity for it.--InDeBiz1 (talk) 07:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the heads-up on the article. The other poster keeps trying to say that because he's "in the biz" that he should get special treatment. <shrug> I'm a television producer in Atlanta with my own share of "inside knowledge" too, but hey. I guess he feels he knows better. I always thought WP policy trumped everything else... --Mhking (talk) 23:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

You've made lots of good edits trying to sort out the WNNX / WWWQ / 99X pages with the current situation down there. I do expect a lot more changes to come in the next week or so. I still stand by thinking that the terrestial WNNX items should stay on that page as opposed to moving to the 99X page... albeit that would make the WNNX page mega-long. However, this would be consistent with what would have happened if 99X did not go online only. The history of the frequency (and Sean's take on it) should stay on the WNNX history page; keeping two different copies may result in edits to one and not the other. So, to sum up my opinion (which you can do with what you may): it's trying to separate articles about on-air content vs articles about the frequency itself. If the article stayed "99X" all along, then it wouldn't be an issue with merging stuff together as all the 99X stuff could stay on one page, but because someone decided to call 99X as "WNNX", then that's where all the merge madness happens. The 99X today is something completely new from what it was a week ago on WNNX, hence my transition plan suggestion of making it a new article (with links to WNNX) as opposed to trying to force both pages to contain the same info. (ex: Jimmy Baron is not a former 99X staffer, he's a former WNNX staffer... as 99X in its current state never existed before). Anyways, there's my 4 cents. RadioBoy2003 (talk) 13:27, 26 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


You do realize now that the new call letters for Rock 100.5 are WNNX right? You need to switch the WNNX call letters over to Rock 100.5 and WWWQ over to Q100. The FCC has made the switch. If you don't believe me just listen to the Station ID at the top of the hour. Rwils (talk) Tuesday, 2008-01-29 21:39 UTC, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

WWWQ Edits

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Hey, how come you don't like my bit about the WWWQ stunting and format change? What's up with that? I tried to be as accurate as possible. Matsuto77 (talk) 22:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)Matsuto77Reply

RE: WWWQ Edits

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Ah, okay, I suppose you're right. But perhaps a brief mention of it in the WWWQ article would work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.205.161.58 (talk) 16:06, 29 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


Cobain Death

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It is ALREADY an issue on the discussion page, to which I responded that I'd re-add the content but wait for citations regarding the rest - before I re-added the content. Two people wanted it in, two people said something, you said nothing. I'd very much like to keep it in the discussion section but you should have - and could have - responded. Not waited until it was put in and then talk about how ridiculous edit wars are after editing it and still not responding. NeoApsara (talk) 18:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

99X

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Updated Nirvana Sales

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Just read your response in the discussion section...Chris....whether something is irrelevant is up to the mind of the beholder. Many would disagree that updated sales are mere trivia. They indicate a bands continued popularity with new generations over time. I do have cited sources stating that Nirvana have sold over 60 million albums worldwide. However, you must realize that it's sometimes impossible to get just one source stating that any band has sold a certain amount worldwide. In Nirvana's case, one could cite published sales data from worldwide sales organizations such as the RIAA in America, CRIA in Canada, and ARIA in Australia just to name a few. By adding up these documented sources, one can arrive at Nirvana's 60 million figure. The Neilson Soundscan company, which measures album sales in the U.S. lists that Nirvana have sold 4.5 million in the U.S. alone since 2002. I can revise the sentence with a verifiable source if you think it would be relevant. Would it? I do rememeber seeing a 2006 documented source that did list Nirvana as selling over 60 million worldwide. Thanks for your response. allaplgies (talk) 04:17, 28 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


99X Craig/Fram Dismissal

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Actually, these two are no longer employed by Cumulus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.153.32.226 (talk) 14:28, 29 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Call sign switch

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I have switched the 2 pages WNNX and WWWQ as requested. I will leave you to sort out the content & links as you probably are in a better position to do this.

Keith D (talk) 22:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Re-associated missing talk page. Keith D (talk) 23:05, 29 January 2008 (UTC)Reply


Current FF pic

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Don't you think it's taken too far back to be of any use? Do we have any alternatives? ScarianCall me Pat 00:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

What's the deletion review link for the dead Nirvana pic? ScarianCall me Pat 01:12, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
No worries found it... but yeah... We need a new Foo's pic... Does Flickr have fair use licenses? ScarianCall me Pat 01:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Reply
I couldn't find a single decent picture... Did you? ScarianCall me Pat 15:42, 20 February 2008 (UTC)Reply


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cobain

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begining of the year jan.,feb.,march,april,may,middle of the year as follows,June,july,august, latter part of the year sept,oct,nov,dec. now i will change it to read as follows in the latter half of 1991 get back to me if this wording pleases you more before an edit war breaks out--Wikiscribe (talk) 04:44, 9 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

okay i tried to compromise but it seems like you are unwilling and will look favorable for me if you revert me again and i will seek an administrator,also it seems like you are being ridiclous in making a big deal about this why is it bothering you so much the administrator who made changes to that page right after i did seem not to have had a problem with it--Wikiscribe (talk) 16:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Okay, I have the obligatory task of reminding you of WP:3RR on the Kurt Cobain article. I have reverted to your version and I agree with you. But so as not to appear biased I must notify you of it. Hopefully the other user involved will discuss rather than continuing to revert. Regards, ScarianCall me Pat 17:09, 9 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Nirvana

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Do you think Scream should be added to the Nirvana article as an associated act? I may be a stickler for details, but since Grohl didn't help found Nirvana, and came in as a replacement drummer, Scream has no ties to Nirvana. Just fishing for an opinion. Jmlk17 04:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Re: FF socks

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Sure thing. Done. Check users can be obtained to check IP addresses of registered users but this case is too obvious. The SSP is just a formality so we can get a block on this dude. Some people never learn! Thanks for the message and keep up the good work with the article(s)! ScarianCall me Pat 02:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Spooky873

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We managed to get the three meat puppet accounts indef blocked and Spooky got plugged for 48 hours. Good job. I've struck the comments on the FF talk page of the socks/meat puppets. I'm not sure on the best way to get Spooky to stop being an ass though... Any ideas? ScarianCall me Pat! 00:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Kurt Cobain's shotgun

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As you know I changed "A shotgun, purchased for Cobain by Dylan Carlson, was found at Cobain's side. Cobain's death certificate concluded Cobain's death was a result of a "self-inflicted shotgun wound to the head. (which is both misleading and false) to "A shotgun, purchased for Cobain by Dylan Carlson, was in between Cobain's legs with his hand still gripping the barrell. Cobain's death certificate concluded Cobain's death was a result of a 'contact perfotrating shotgun wound to the head'. The report estimates Cobain to have died on April 5], 1994. Which was then changed by you to "A shotgun, purchased for Cobain by Dylan Carlson, was found resting on Cobain's chest" which, whatever your intentions were, is lending weight to a conspiracy of murder and obviously an enyclopedia should reflect the consensus view, which is that Cobain shot himself. Therefore I have changed it to "a shotgun, purchased for Cobain by Dylan Carlson, was lying inverted across Cobain's chest with his left hand wrapped around the barrel"

No police report mentoins a resting shotgun:

1. Homicide Office Follow-Up Report (pg 3 of 15) "There is a [shotgun] between the victim's legs with the barrel pointed towards his head and his left hand wrapped around the barrel. The shotgun is inverted with the trigger and magazine trapdoor pointing up. The barrel end is just above his beltline...the damage to the interior of the mouth indicates that the shot was taken in the mouth...the webbing of the left hand has the impression of the shotgun barrel in it."

2. Major Investigation Summary (April 8) "...with a shotgun on his chest...the shotgun had been placed in Cobain's mouth and discharged. There were marks on Cobain's hands consistent with the firing of this weapon."

3. Statement of Officer Von Ledanvowski (April 8) "A shotgun was laying across the victim's body; the butt of the gun was between the victim's feet, and the muzzle was at about the the mid-chest level of the victim." Iconoclast322 (talk) 05:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

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Matthew Good demo tapes

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As long as you're nominating, you might have a look at Broken (demo), Left of Normal, and Euphony (album). I don't see why these are any more notable than the other two. Since you started the AFD, I'll let you decide whether or not to add them. // Chris (complaints)(contribs) 01:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Reply



These demos are well-known within the Matthew Good fan community and deserve recognition as releases. There are few
sources with which to cite these early demos because Matthew Good himself has only recently started to acknowledge their
existence. Previously, he denied them ever having existed to dissuade people from purchasing them illegally from a
former bandmate who released them on a 2-disc set without permission. The law-suit has been settled in favour of Good
and he has even offered up a few mp3s from these old demos up on his website. They are also notable because they
represent his earlier folk-based roots, to which he has returned on his more recent solo endeavors (see Hospital Music).


The Foo Fighters' first demo Pocketwatch (album), had the same story up until a few years ago when they decided to
include a reference to it on their official site. Simply because an artist does not wish to acknowledge their earlier
roots does not mean that the rest of us have to deny any record of them. Leave them up. Please.
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Boy...you really, really like Nirvana

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Like a lot. I thought I loved them because I had the bootlegs but you're fucking obsessed with them and the Foos.

It's great to have you back :-)

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