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Request reason:
I did not reinstate disputed material. The disputed material was an unqualified statement that Johnson has seven children (and was tagged as such), despite multiple reliable sources stating that he has "at least" seven children. The disputed material was reinstated by User:DeFacto and User:CzelloCortador (talk) 17:02, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You were edit warring on that biography. The block is clearly necessary. PhilKnight (talk) 18:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
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- The words "at least" and the citations added in [1], [2], [3] and [4] have been edit warred back into the article without a consensus to do so having been found on the talk page. You are currently blocked to prevent you from continuing. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 17:12, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
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BBC Request
editHi Cortador. My name is Marco Silva and I am a senior journalist with BBC News in London. I noticed how much you contributed to the article about Sultan Al Jaber. Is there any chance we can chat in private? I have a couple of questions for you about this article and about the editing work you have been doing. To be crystal clear: I am not looking for an interview, just an off-the-record chat. Please let me know your thoughts when you have a moment. Many thanks. MarcoSilvaUK (talk) 14:12, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hello @MarcoSilvaUK. I'm happy to have a chat. Do you have means to be contacted? I found your Twitter profile, but was unable to DM you as I'm not verified. Cortador (talk) 14:20, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Cortador. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Please email me via my personal page (Special:EmailUser/MarcoSilvaUK) and we'll take it from there. Much appreciated. MarcoSilvaUK (talk) 14:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
"Hi!" - Please: Use the Informations i gave, instead revert all generally, thankyou! I don't have the time & the knowledge to do the things here as you want, "sorry!". Gentle: Hungchaka (talk) 17:19, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
Misrepresentation
editPlease do not misrepresent my posts, as you did here. I was not complaining about
any sources, I was asking how you selected them, to help understand the weight to be applied to your use of them. -- DeFacto (talk). 20:03, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
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September 2023
editThis edit summary includes a quite explicit assumption of bad faith. The editor already said their edit was based on a specific and expressed reasoning, but you directly imply that their real reasoning was something else "you not liking them
". You are a generally good editor and I do not wish to see you get zucked. Please take this as a friendly but vigorous encouragement to stop those kinds of comments, in ES or on talk, right away. Cambial — foliar❧ 12:07, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
- Czello has displayed disruptive behaviour in the past e.g. false accusations of three-revert rule breaks. I can only give people so much benefit. Cortador (talk) 06:59, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Are you still on this? It's been months, and you were edit warring, several times, as you continue to do. Let it go. — Czello (music) 07:19, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- I see you have moved from a break of the three-edit rule to just "edit warring" to hide the fact that your accusations were fabricated. Also, since you apparently monitor my talk page (as evident by you replying to a comment you weren't even tagged in within minutes), I don't think you should be talking about anyone's inability to move on. Cortador (talk) 07:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Your talk page is still on my watchlist after the previous times I've had to warn you about edit warring. I've not had to "fabricate" a reason to do so: you must be aware of the fact you have a habit of edit warring ideologies into infoboxes when you don't have consensus. — Czello (music) 08:22, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- And you talk about not being able to let go. Well, have fun with whatever obsession you have with me. Cortador (talk) 08:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Your talk page is still on my watchlist after the previous times I've had to warn you about edit warring. I've not had to "fabricate" a reason to do so: you must be aware of the fact you have a habit of edit warring ideologies into infoboxes when you don't have consensus. — Czello (music) 08:22, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- I see you have moved from a break of the three-edit rule to just "edit warring" to hide the fact that your accusations were fabricated. Also, since you apparently monitor my talk page (as evident by you replying to a comment you weren't even tagged in within minutes), I don't think you should be talking about anyone's inability to move on. Cortador (talk) 07:28, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Are you still on this? It's been months, and you were edit warring, several times, as you continue to do. Let it go. — Czello (music) 07:19, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Financial ties to Russian oligarchs
editKia ora @Cortador. Just want to say thanks again for restoring the edits I made to the page for the Conservative Party (UK). As you can see here, the user Czello left me a message threatening to block me, after I tried reaching out to him to get him to come to the talk page. Bit irritiating. Aubernas (talk) 10:23, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- @AubernasNo problem. I think it would have been more productive if anyone had actually voiced any specific issues they had with the addition, but none of the other editors did that. Cortador (talk) 18:53, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
edit war
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Note although this is a 3rr warning the page is (in fact) under 1RR, you have reverted more than once. Slatersteven (talk) 12:19, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- @SlaterstevenThe page states: "You must follow the bold-revert-discuss cycle if your change is reverted. You may not reinstate your edit until you post a talk page message discussing your edit and have waited 24 hours from the time of this talk page message." The BRD page in turn states: "When reverting, be specific about your reasons in the edit summary and use links if needed. Look at the article's history and its talk page to see if a discussion has begun. If not, you may begin one."
- Emphasis mine. None of the users who reverted the edit have a given a sufficient reason, and none have bothered to post a reply on the talk page. You are the ones engaging in edit warring by reverting edits while not following what a BRD cycle asks for. Cortador (talk) 12:30, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- You only posted that talk page discussion today. Slatersteven (talk) 12:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Because nobody had bothered to give a reason for the reverts. I expect a good-faith effort when edits are reverted. Cortador (talk) 12:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- "This was added yesterday and needs to be discussed if added. Reversion was correct" is a reason. Slatersteven (talk) 12:41, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- No addition requires a discussion just because, not even articles about contentious topics. If you want a discussion, give a reason why you think that information doesn't belong in the first sentence of the lead. Cortador (talk) 12:50, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- "This was added yesterday and needs to be discussed if added. Reversion was correct" is a reason. Slatersteven (talk) 12:41, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- Because nobody had bothered to give a reason for the reverts. I expect a good-faith effort when edits are reverted. Cortador (talk) 12:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- You only posted that talk page discussion today. Slatersteven (talk) 12:38, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
My last word here, you have been warned, if you revert again I will report you. Slatersteven (talk) 12:51, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- I suggest you take a good look at WP:BOOMERANG then. Cortador (talk) 13:05, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi Cortador, regarding this talk page discussion that you have started, could you add a proposal for specific wording to be added into the article? Having closed the previous discussion as without consensus, I believe it would lead to a more lasting outcome if specific text was proposed to be included in the article, which can then be approved or rejected by consensus. Thank you. Onetwothreeip (talk) 21:12, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Onetwothreeip The specific wording should be: "Vivek Ramaswamy is a climate change denier".
- That said, I disagree with there being no consensus. Consensus should be formed on arguments made, and the no side has failed to demonstrate why Ramaswamy shouldn't not have this label, and/or didn't bring up sources that deny that he is a climate change denier. Cortador (talk) 07:11, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, you can commence a new RfC which includes that suggested wording, along with the paragraph it would be contained in. However, an explicit description as "climate change denier" did not gain consensus, as discussion participants were not convinced that the sources you provided adequately support the proposed description, so you may wish to propose an alternative description to gain consensus. On volume I would have determined that there was consensus against, but I considered there to be roughly equal weight between the arguments. Onetwothreeip (talk) 07:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- RfC aren't decided by majority vote. I didn't see anyone bring up sources that deny that Ramaswamy is a denier, so to be honest, I don't see how you came to the conclusion that there was equal weight between arguments. Cortador (talk) 08:25, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- It's not about sources refuting the ones you provided, it's about how editors have interpreted the sources. Onetwothreeip (talk) 08:39, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- There's nothing to interpret. The source are clear. Only one editor had an issue with them, stating that two are biased, which isn't sufficient grounds to reject them.
- Also, the "No" have provided no sources whatsoever. Cortador (talk) 13:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- It's not about sources refuting the ones you provided, it's about how editors have interpreted the sources. Onetwothreeip (talk) 08:39, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- RfC aren't decided by majority vote. I didn't see anyone bring up sources that deny that Ramaswamy is a denier, so to be honest, I don't see how you came to the conclusion that there was equal weight between arguments. Cortador (talk) 08:25, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, you can commence a new RfC which includes that suggested wording, along with the paragraph it would be contained in. However, an explicit description as "climate change denier" did not gain consensus, as discussion participants were not convinced that the sources you provided adequately support the proposed description, so you may wish to propose an alternative description to gain consensus. On volume I would have determined that there was consensus against, but I considered there to be roughly equal weight between the arguments. Onetwothreeip (talk) 07:52, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
Source titles
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References
- ^ Cowburn, Ashley (2017-10-30). "Tory MPs blocked bid to sign up to code stopping sexual harassment". The Independent. Retrieved 2023-11-14.
- ^ Cowburn, Ashley (2017-10-30). "Tory MPs 'resisted' attempt by David Cameron to make them sign code of conduct safeguarding staff against sexual harassment". The Independent.
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Avoid commenting on editors
editCortador, I know you have been given a contentious topics warning. Please avoid commenting on editors as you have been doing in our recent discussions. When you shift from commenting on my arguments to commenting on my understandings you are no longer WP:FOC. Springee (talk) 12:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Republican party article
editI empathize with your positions here, and I see that we agree on certain issues. I think your time will be better served avoiding the back and forth with other editors. I can certainly relate to your frustrations, but sometimes the best thing to do is to disengage if you know it's not likely to have any effect on swaying opinion or increasing consensus. Let's focus on improving the Far right section and try to keep it condensed down to what is DUE, with a few short sentences. We have a good start, we just need to be patient and open minded. Cheers. DN (talk) 20:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'll be open-minded if I can see the same from others. All I get with these reverts are a bunch of links and no explanation. Both Springee and Muboshgu have claimed that GOP support for GRCT is a minority viewpoint, and both have failed to back that up with anything. Cortador (talk) 14:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- I really don't see much point in going back and forth with Springee. I think you should both disengage for a bit. I'm happy to work with you, so if you just want to use me as your sounding board I'm happy to act as a buffer until things calm down. Cheers. DN (talk) 19:12, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Just a quick suggestion. I would not try to hold any other editor's hands and explain policies or walk them through justifications, at least not more than once. Sometimes it's OK to stop engaging if an editor clearly and simply can't or won't acknowledge things. Constantly going back and forth on tangents tends to distract from where the discussion is supposed to go. Focus on your arguments and which sources say what, and how it affects the article. Avoid discussions that tend to end up in WP:BATTLE and WP:LAWYER territory. Not that you are doing anything wrong, I also struggle with these issues myself, but I wanted to let you know that sort of thing happens, and can create unnecessary stress. I like to remind myself I do not control consensus, I simply abide by it. Cheers. DN (talk) 23:47, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
The tag isn't appropriate so there's nothing to replace it with. If you disagree, fine, but take it to the talk page and/or bring in an RfC &c. to show me how wrong I am. In any case, if there's an issue with any fact in the article, tag that but it is cited, so "needs cites" is definitely the wrong template for whatever the problem is you see.
(For Mount Qianliyan, btw, yeah, fair enough. There are cites on that article but, yeah, they should be replaced with a higher quality source so the template fits, kinda. For Qianliyan Island, no, they're journalistic and scholarly sources already and there's no actual problem with them as far as I can see. You're welcome to explain the issue on the talk page, ofc.) — LlywelynII 17:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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. El_C 05:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Help on a request
editHi @Cortador, I am a Conflict of Interest editor who has made a request at Talk:Sultan Al Jaber where you have previously weighed in on other discussions. I wondered if you might like to assess the changes I have proposed? Thank you in advance! Dedemocha (talk) 15:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Dedemocha I'll have a look. Cortador (talk) 15:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Cortador thank you so much for your feedback so far on this request. I have left a response on the Talk page with some additional sources and closer wording to the original NYT source, which I hope are useful Dedemocha (talk) 16:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
editThe Barnstar of Diligence | |
For your work going through Tommy Tallarico and finding sources/removing unsourced items, that task is much appreciated! Alyo (chat·edits) 15:34, 27 June 2024 (UTC) |
- @AlyoMuch appreciated! Cortador (talk) 16:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
In case you didn't know
editYou're in media:[5][6] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:52, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Gråbergs Gråa Sång Hahaha, wow. That's amazing. At this rate, we'll have to add the discussion about the medal to the article. Cortador (talk) 09:00, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not if I WP:OWN it we wont (see [7]). Seriously though, I would approach that like the wig [8]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable. Cortador (talk) 09:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- On height, I just imagined "Kamala Harris is an American politician who is the current president of the United States. She is the second shortest person to hold that office. Also the first woman." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be all for a presidential height table, though that may not be encyclopaedic. Cortador (talk) 09:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, that's an actual thing. Cortador (talk) 09:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Of course! That's where I got "second shortest." So Trump has got height on his side, like he did with Hillary. She did get more votes though. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Wait, that's an actual thing. Cortador (talk) 09:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be all for a presidential height table, though that may not be encyclopaedic. Cortador (talk) 09:58, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- On height, I just imagined "Kamala Harris is an American politician who is the current president of the United States. She is the second shortest person to hold that office. Also the first woman." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable. Cortador (talk) 09:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Not if I WP:OWN it we wont (see [7]). Seriously though, I would approach that like the wig [8]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:09, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
August 2024
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- Per Toa Nidhiki05 above, please review BRD. You have enough editing experience to know that contested restorations should go to the talk page first. Springee (talk) 20:23, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
RSP question
editHi Cortador. I’m looking for input on the right way to add a source to RSP following an RfC. I’m writing to you because you are active on RSP. An MMA blog called Bloody Elbow has been determined to be generally unreliable prior to March 2024. There has been an RfC and two previous discussions:[9], [10], [11]. Based on my reading, Bloody Elbow now meets the formal WP:RSPCRITERIA but I think an independent editor(s) should make that determination and if they agree, implement the RSP. I would do it myself but I am a COI editor who represents an MMA league, ONE Championship, that’s been frequently written about in the blog. This blog is so unreliable that when new owners took over in March 2024 and turned it into a reliable news source with reporters, editors and fact checking, they deleted the entire 14 year archive of blog posts. Despite a discussion on RSN going back 12 years that the blog was not reliable, Bloody Elbow has been cited more than 500 times on Wikipedia, including on most of the significant pages about MMA. Without the visibility of the RSP, I think the misuse of this blog will remain pervasive. Bloody Elbow’s reinvention by new owners as a reliable source is going to add to the confusion. People will think that that old blog content has the credibility of the new reliable news source, or - conversely - that the new source is generally unreliable because it used to be a blog. A delineation on RSP will very much help with the confusion. Do you have any guidance on how I can bring this to the attention of the right editors? Brucemyboy1212 (talk) 15:05, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Brucemyboy1212 Hello. The right way forward here is to start a RfC on the reliable sources notice board, and link to previous discussion. You should make the following case: Bloody Elbow (before March 2024) and Bloody Elbow (March 2024-present) are two different sources, since it seems that the new owner bought the rights to the branding and essentially erases the old blog. Point out that the site now has an editorial policy and uses professional journalists (at least according to them). Just adding the source to the list isn't appropriate, since the last discussion had little participation. Cortador (talk) 07:35, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Personal attack
editPlease strike this comment as it violates CIVIL [12]. Springee (talk) 03:32, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- I recommend you focus on the discussion instead of making bad faith accusations. Cortador (talk) 13:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Edit war
editOn top of violating bold, revert, discuss by continuing to revert your contested edit back (see: edit warring), you give me a template warning (don't template the regulars) to warn me about edit warring? Dude. You're the one who started this. Toa Nidhiki05 20:55, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
November 2024
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Hi Cortador, I saw that you AfD'd Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of wars involving North Korea on 20 October. You stated that Adding to this: depending on the outcome of this AfD, I'll nominate List of wars involving South Korea as well. However, this the arguments for and against that will pretty much be the same as the ones here, I didn't want to split the debate, and just nominated this page for now. That seems a good idea. It was indeed deleted on 3 November, and redirected to List of wars involving Korea#North Korea afterwards. Are you planning on nominating List of wars involving South Korea for deletion / redirect to List of wars involving Korea#South Korea next? If not, I'll be happy to do it in your stead if you prefer. Cheers, NLeeuw (talk) 15:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Nederlandse Leeuw Hello. I kind of forgot about that - thanks for the reminder. Feel free to nominate the page for deletion, and please tag me once you do. Cortador (talk) 15:39, 21 November 2024 (UTC)