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The Signpost: 28 December 2020
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- Featured content: Very nearly ringing in the New Year with "Blank Space" – but we got there in time.
- Traffic report: 2020 wraps up
- Recent research: Predicting the next move in Wikipedia discussions
- Essay: Subjective importance
- Gallery: Angels in the architecture
- Humour: 'Twas the Night Before Wikimas
The Signpost: 31 January 2021
- News and notes: 1,000,000,000 edits, board elections, virtual Wikimania 2021
- Special report: Wiki reporting on the United States insurrection
- In focus: From Anarchy to Wikiality, Glaring Bias to Good Cop: Press Coverage of Wikipedia's First Two Decades
- Technology report: The people who built Wikipedia, technically
- Videos and podcasts: Celebrating 20 years
- News from the WMF: Wikipedia celebrates 20 years of free, trusted information for the world
- Recent research: Students still have a better opinion of Wikipedia than teachers
- Humour: Dr. Seuss's Guide to Wikipedia
- Featured content: New Year, same Featured Content report!
- Traffic report: The most viewed articles of 2020
- Obituary: Flyer22 Frozen
The Signpost: 28 February 2021
- News and notes: Maher stepping down
- Disinformation report: A "billionaire battle" on Wikipedia: Sex, lies, and video
- In the media: Corporate influence at OSM, Fox watching the hen house
- News from the WMF: Who tells your story on Wikipedia
- Featured content: A Love of Knowledge, for Valentine's Day
- Traffic report: Does it almost feel like you've been here before?
- Gallery: What is Black history and culture?
Manan Afd
There is a consensus already. All of the current lvoters and the nominator (me) agree that the page should be deleted and Manan (disambiguation) be moved over to the vacant title. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:35, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
The Signpost: 28 March 2021
- News and notes: A future with a for-profit subsidiary?
- Gallery: Wiki Loves Monuments
- In the media: Wikimedia LLC and disinformation in Japan
- News from the WMF: Project Rewrite: Tell the missing stories of women on Wikipedia and beyond
- Recent research: 10%-30% of Wikipedia’s contributors have subject-matter expertise
- From the archives: Google isn't responsible for Wikipedia's mistakes
- Obituary: Yoninah
- From the editor: What else can we say?
- Arbitration report: Open letter to the Board of Trustees
- Traffic report: Wanda, Meghan, Liz, Phil and Zack
The Signpost: 25 April 2021
- From the editor: A change is gonna come
- Disinformation report: Paid editing by a former head of state's business enterprise
- In the media: Fernando, governance, and rugby
- Opinion: The (Universal) Code of Conduct
- Op-Ed: A Little Fun Goes A Long Way
- Changing the world: The reach of protest images on Wikipedia
- Recent research: Quality of aquatic and anatomical articles
- Traffic report: The verdict is guilty, guilty, guilty
- News from Wiki Education: Encouraging professional physicists to engage in outreach on Wikipedia
The Signpost: 25 April 2021
- From the editor: A change is gonna come
- Disinformation report: Paid editing by a former head of state's business enterprise
- In the media: Fernando, governance, and rugby
- Opinion: The (Universal) Code of Conduct
- Op-Ed: A Little Fun Goes A Long Way
- Changing the world: The reach of protest images on Wikipedia
- Recent research: Quality of aquatic and anatomical articles
- Traffic report: The verdict is guilty, guilty, guilty
- News from Wiki Education: Encouraging professional physicists to engage in outreach on Wikipedia
The Signpost: 27 June 2021
- News and notes: Elections, Wikimania, masking and more
- In the media: Boris and Joe, reliability, love, and money
- Disinformation report: Croatian Wikipedia: capture and release
- Recent research: Feminist critique of Wikipedia's epistemology, Black Americans vastly underrepresented among editors, Wiki Workshop report
- Traffic report: So no one told you life was gonna be this way
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The Signpost: 25 July 2021
- News and notes: Wikimania and a million other news stories
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- In the media: Larry is at it again
- Board of Trustees candidates: See the candidates
- Traffic report: Football, tennis and marveling at Loki
- News from the WMF: Uncapping our growth potential – interview with James Baldwin, Finance and Administration Department
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The Signpost: 29 August 2021
- News and notes: Enough time left to vote! IP ban
- In the media: Vive la différence!
- Wikimedians of the year: Seven Wikimedians of the year
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- News from Wiki Education: Changing the face of Wikipedia
- Recent research: IP editors, inclusiveness and empathy, cyclones, and world heritage
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Days of the Year Interview
- Traffic report: Olympics, movies, and Afghanistan
- Community view: Making Olympic history on Wikipedia
New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
Hello EggRoll97,
Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.
Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.
At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.
There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.
If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.
Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.
To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent to 827 users. 04:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
The Signpost: 26 September 2021
- News and notes: New CEO, new board members, China bans
- In the media: The future of Wikipedia
- Op-Ed: I've been desysopped
- Disinformation report: Paid promotional paragraphs in German parliamentary pages
- Discussion report: Editors discuss Wikipedia's vetting process for administrators
- Recent research: Wikipedia images for machine learning; Experiment justifies Wikipedia's high search rankings
- Community view: Is writing Wikipedia like making a quilt?
- Traffic report: Kanye, Emma Raducanu and 9/11
- News from Diff: Welcome to the first grantees of the Knowledge Equity Fund
- WikiProject report: The Random and the Beautiful
November 2021 backlog drive
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The Signpost: 31 October 2021
- From the editor: Different stories, same place
- News and notes: The sockpuppet who ran for adminship and almost succeeded
- Discussion report: Editors brainstorm and propose changes to the Requests for adminship process
- Recent research: Welcome messages fail to improve newbie retention
- Community view: Reflections on the Chinese Wikipedia
- Traffic report: James Bond and the Giant Squid Game
- Technology report: Wikimedia Toolhub, winners of the Coolest Tool Award, and more
- Serendipity: How Wikipedia helped create a Serbian stamp
- Book review: Wikipedia and the Representation of Reality
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- Humour: A very Wiki crossword
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The Signpost: 29 November 2021
- In the media: Denial: climate change, mass killings and pornography
- WikiCup report: The WikiCup 2021
- Deletion report: What we lost, what we gained
- From a Wikipedia reader: What's Matt Amodio?
- Arbitration report: ArbCom in 2021
- Discussion report: On the brink of change – RFA reforms appear imminent
- Technology report: What does it take to upload a file?
- WikiProject report: Interview with contributors to WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers
- Recent research: Vandalizing Wikipedia as rational behavior
- Humour: A very new very Wiki crossword
The Signpost: 28 December 2021
- From the editor: Here is the news
- News and notes: Jimbo's NFT, new arbs, fixing RfA, and financial statements
- Serendipity: Born three months before her brother?
- In the media: The past is not even past
- Arbitration report: A new crew for '22
- By the numbers: Four billion words and a few numbers
- Deletion report: We laughed, we cried, we closed as "no consensus"
- Gallery: Wikicommons presents: 2021
- Traffic report: Spider-Man, football and the departed
- Crossword: Another Wiki crossword for one and all
- Humour: Buying Wikipedia
The Signpost: 30 January 2022
- Special report: WikiEd course leads to Twitter harassment
- News and notes: Feedback for Board of Trustees election
- Interview: CEO Maryana Iskander "four weeks in"
- Black History Month: What are you doing for Black History Month?
- WikiProject report: The Forgotten Featured
- Arbitration report: New arbitrators look at new case and antediluvian sanctions
- Traffic report: The most viewed articles of 2021
- Obituary: Twofingered Typist
- Essay: The prime directive
- In the media: Fuzzy-headed government editing
- Recent research: Articles with higher quality ratings have fewer "knowledge gaps"
- Crossword: Cross swords with a crossword
The Signpost: 27 February 2022
- From the team: Selection of a new Signpost Editor-in-Chief
- News and notes: Impacts of Russian invasion of Ukraine
- Special report: A presidential candidate's team takes on Wikipedia
- In the media: Wiki-drama in the UK House of Commons
- Technology report: Community Wishlist Survey results
- WikiProject report: 10 years of tea
- Featured content: Featured Content returns
- Deletion report: The 10 most SHOCKING deletion discussions of February
- Recent research: How editors and readers may be emotionally affected by disasters and terrorist attacks
- Arbitration report: Parties remonstrate, arbs contemplate, skeptics coordinate
- Gallery: The vintage exhibit
- Traffic report: Euphoria, Pamela Anderson, lies and Netflix
- News from Diff: The Wikimania 2022 Core Organizing Team
- Crossword: A Crossword, featuring Featured Articles
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The Signpost: 27 March 2022
- From the Signpost team: How The Signpost is documenting the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine
- News and notes: Of safety and anonymity
- Eyewitness Wikimedian, Kharkiv, Ukraine: Countering Russian aggression with a camera
- Eyewitness Wikimedian, Vinnytsia, Ukraine: War diary
- Eyewitness Wikimedian, Western Ukraine: Working with Wikipedia helps
- Disinformation report: The oligarchs' socks
- In the media: Ukraine, Russia, and even some other stuff
- Wikimedian perspective: My heroes from Russia, Ukraine & beyond
- Discussion report: Athletes are less notable now
- Technology report: 2022 Wikimedia Hackathon
- Arbitration report: Skeptics given heavenly judgement, whirlwind of Discord drama begins to spin for tropical cyclone editors
- Traffic report: War, what is it good for?
- Deletion report: Ukraine, werewolves, Ukraine, YouTube pundits, and Ukraine
- From the archives: Burn, baby burn
- Essay: Yes, the sky is blue
- Tips and tricks: Become a keyboard ninja
- On the bright side: The bright side of news
The Signpost: 24 April 2022
- News and notes: Double trouble
- In the media: The battlegrounds outside and inside Wikipedia
- Special report: Ukrainian Wikimedians during the war
- Eyewitness Wikimedian, Vinnytsia, Ukraine: War diary (Part 2)
- Technology report: 8-year-old attribution issues in Media Viewer
- Featured content: Wikipedia's best content from March
- Interview: On a war and a map
- Serendipity: Wikipedia loves photographs, but hates photographers
- Traffic report: Justice Jackson, the Smiths, and an invasion
- News from the WMF: How Smart is the SMART Copyright Act?
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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello EggRoll97,
At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.
Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.
In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 805 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 847 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.
This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.
If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}}
on their talk page.
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The Signpost: 29 May 2022
- From the team: A changing of the guard
- News and notes: 2022 Wikimedia Board elections
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- In the media: Putin, Jimbo, Musk and more
- Special report: Three stories of Ukrainian Wikimedians during the war
- Discussion report: Portals, April Fools, admin activity requirements and more
- WikiProject report: WikiProject COVID-19 revisited
- Technology report: A new video player for Wikimedia wikis
- Featured content: Featured content of April
- Interview: Wikipedia's pride
- Serendipity: Those thieving image farms
- Recent research: 35 million Twitter links analysed
- Tips and tricks: The reference desks of Wikipedia
- Traffic report: Strange highs and strange lows
- News from Diff: Winners of the Human rights and Environment special nomination by Wiki Loves Earth announced
- News from the WMF: The EU Digital Services Act: What’s the Deal with the Deal?
- From the archives: The Onion and Wikipedia
- Humour: A new crossword
New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello EggRoll97,
- Backlog status
At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.
Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]
In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
- Backlog drive
A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
- TIP – New school articles
Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
- Misc
There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}
, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 13771 articles, as of 20:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot
There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.
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The Signpost: 26 June 2022
- News and notes: WMF inks new rules on government-ordered takedowns, blasts Russian feds' censor demands, spends big bucks
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The Signpost: 1 August 2022
- From the editors: Rise of the machines, or something
- News and notes: Information considered harmful
- In the media: Censorship, medieval hoaxes, "pathetic supervillains", FB-WMF AI TL bid, dirty duchess deeds done dirt cheap
- Op-Ed: The "recession" affair
- Eyewitness Wikimedian, Vinnytsia, Ukraine: War diary (part 3)
- Community view: Youth culture and notability
- Opinion: Criminals among us
- Arbitration report: Winds of change blow for cyclone editors, deletion dustup draws toward denouement
- Deletion report: This is Gonzo Country
- Discussion report: Notability for train stations, notices for mobile editors, noticeboards for the rest of us
- Featured content: A little list with surprisingly few lists
- Tips and tricks: Cleaning up awful citations with Citation bot
- On the bright side: Ukrainian Wikimedians during the war — three (more) stories
- Essay: How to research an image
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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello EggRoll97,
- Backlog status
After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.
- Coordination
- MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.
- Open letter to the WMF
- The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.
- TIP - Reviewing by subject
- Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.
- New reviewers
- The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.
- Reminders
- Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
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{{subst:NPR invite}}
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For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.
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The Signpost: 31 August 2022
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- In the media: Truth or consequences? A tough month for truth
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Closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jolly Jam
Please revert the Non Admin Closure of this AfD if possible. One delete, one merge, and one keep (with the other being WP:PERX) is not consensus. At most it would be "no consensus" but the discussion hasn't even been relisted more than once. In short, I believe this is an incorrect closure. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:18, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm: I am willing to relist out of good faith, though the merge !vote was more of a "keep, though merge if possible" as I saw it. Again, though, I have re-opened and relisted as requested. EggRoll97 (talk) 04:40, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello EggRoll97,
Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.
Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.
Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.
Suggestions:
- There is much enthusiasm over the low backlog, but remember that the "quality and depth of patrolling are more important than speed".
- Reminder: an article should not be tagged for any kind of deletion for a minimum of 15 minutes after creation and it is often appropriate to wait an hour or more. (from the NPP tutorial)
- Reviewers should focus their effort where it can do the most good, reviewing articles. Other clean-up tasks that don't require advanced permissions can be left to other editors that routinely improve articles in these ways (creating Talk Pages, specifying projects and ratings, adding categories, etc.) Let's rely on others when it makes the most sense. On the other hand, if you enjoy doing these tasks while reviewing and it keeps you engaged with NPP (or are guiding a newcomer), then by all means continue.
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Backlog:
Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!
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The Signpost: 31 October 2022
- From the team: A new goose on the roost
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- Traffic report: Mama, they're in love with a criminal
The Signpost: 28 November 2022
- News and notes: English Wikipedia editors: "We don't need no stinking banners"
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- Disinformation report: Missed and Dissed
- Book review: Writing the Revolution
- Technology report: Galactic dreams, encyclopedic reality
- Essay: The Six Million FP Man
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- Recent research: Study deems COVID-19 editors smart and cool, questions of clarity and utility for WMF's proposed "Knowledge Integrity Risk Observatory"
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I believe your close was in error. Only one person out of five involved raised any objection to three of the moves. Srnec (talk) 20:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Srnec: I've re-opened the discussion. EggRoll97 (talk) 20:40, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
Hindu terrorism
This is with regards to your close here. Could you go through this please? The closure of this discussion, which involved many of the participants of the discussion you closed, clearly points out why Option 2 cannot be the title. As you said that the only options with significant support would be 2 or 3, and since 2 cannot be the title it seems to me that moving it to 3 would be the correct choice. You may also relist though. I would like you to reconsider your close. Thanks Dympies (talk) 06:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Dympies: Thank you for the chance to take a second look at this. A new day's perspective seems to be well-needed. I've went ahead and moved the page, given clear policy arguments. I'm not entirely sure how I missed all that, frankly. EggRoll97 (talk) 15:07, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Your first close was correct, editor EggRoll97. Please don't second-guess yourself just because one editor asks on your talk page. Now you have two asking, and I ask you to stick with your first closure. Thank you! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 15:21, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- No. See this comment. Just like Zionism is not Judaism, Hindutva is not Hinduism. End of the story. Dympies (talk) 16:49, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Disagree with that, because for one thing, "Hindutva" fails the WP:RECOGNIZABILITY policy as has been shown numerous times, and nobody has been able to effectively rebut that. "Hindu terrorism" still remains the highest and best title for the article, in order for the scope of the article to be open to a wider understanding of such terrorism. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 16:55, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- You and I need to stop rearguing the move request on this talk page. The important thing is that there was no consensus, just like this closer first iterated, no consensus. There is nothing we can say here that should be able to change that. This closer was right the first time! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 17:15, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- @EggRoll97 Closure shouldn't be a supervote. Your current closing statement can be summarised as: "those supporting option X presented best arguments". Well, this is not how a decent evaluation should look like, especially in such a contentious area, itself subject to discretionary sanctions, as communal relations in South Asia.
- For now, there has been no clear consensus to move, even as many editors brought up several valid arguments in support of one or more of the presented options.
- If even the closer is unsure of where consensus lies, then it's definitely not a clear consensus, which is required for a move, and lack of consensus defaults to status quo.
- Finally, non-admins are strongly advised not to attempt to close contentious discussions – you are certainly familiar with WP:NAC. Cheers. — kashmīrī TALK 18:31, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
@Dympies: @Paine Ellsworth: @Kashmiri: I've reverted it to no consensus. Any further discussion needs to happen at move review, or in a new RM. EggRoll97 (talk) 21:55, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- This discussion went through at least 3 non-admin closures [1][2][3] and you have no problem with "non-admins" doing such "close". Indeed, that
lack of consensus defaults to status quo
, but that "status quo" you are talking about will only lead to restoration of Saffron terror as a title, which debunks your whole argument (in my humble opinion). desmay (talk) 22:38, 10 May 2023 (UTC)- My above reply was meant for Kashmiri.
- @EggRoll97: Why not just relist it? The discussion is crucial enough that it deserves at least 1 relist. desmay (talk) 22:46, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Desmay: This doesn't sound too bad, but at this rate, I think it's best that if there remains a disagreement over the validity of the close, it be taken to move review. EggRoll97 (talk) 23:15, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- I support the idea of relisting. Re. revert to the title chosen by the first editor, this would get further complicated by the fact that the text of that very first edit goes:
Term Safforn Terror is identicle
[sic!]to Hindu Terror or Hindu Terrorism
.[4] It seems that is author thought of Wikipedia as a dictionary. — kashmīrī TALK 00:26, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response, editor EggRoll97, and thank you so much for sticking to your earlier closure. That was the right thing to do. Might also say that while under the usual circumstances where a title is proposed for a move to another specific title, and the proposed title is the status quo (like when someone boldly moves a page without discussion), that is when a no-consensus decision results in moving the page back to the status quo title. In this case, it was clear that there were two titles that far exceeded the status quo, "Saffron Terror", and yet no consensus between the two other titles. That is why your first call was the best decision. As is usual with no-consensus outcomes, more discussion is needed, and editors should wait a few months to open a fresh move request if they want it to succeed. Thanks again! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 00:29, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
- Move review can be found here at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2023 May#Hindu terrorism. Dympies (talk) 08:07, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Page not moved
You closed this move request and stated that the result was to move, but you did not move the article? – Treetoes023 (talk) 01:18, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Treetoes023: Should be moved now, sorry for the delay. EggRoll97 (talk) 04:20, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
relisted
Good morning, you here, relisted this discussion today. But I believe after 7 days, It could be very easily deduced that the consensus exists and it is to not move, isnt it? >>> Extorc.talk 07:31, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Extorc: The consensus is somewhat split, and could benefit from further discussion, hence why I also ensured that I publicized the discussion to relevant WikiProjects as well. EggRoll97 (talk) 07:37, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Alright, we'll let it run. >>> Extorc.talk 07:41, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Sinosphere
Sinosphere has been deleted G6. Go ahead with the move. -- Whpq (talk) 02:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- @Whpq: Done, moving subpages now. Thanks! EggRoll97 (talk) 02:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry about missing the talk page. It's deleted now. -- Whpq (talk) 02:32, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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Wanted to write a quick apology for reverting your edits from WP:AN. My watchlist was loading my scripts and I accidentally clicked the rollback button. I will be sure to be more vigilant when viewing my watchlist. Happy editing, Heart (talk) 18:49, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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Hello EggRoll97, do you know what can be done about the "List of" articles now that they weren't included in the move request? Would the main page consensus still work if I sent a request to the bulletin or would I have to start a new consensus again on said talk page? GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 04:40, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
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- @EggRoll97: Alright, a little update on the subject at hand: admin user Xezbeth deemed it fit to move the child pages to the concise title due to the circumstances regarding the parent article consensus. Thank you for your help!GalaxyFighter55 (talk) 06:54, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
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I want to be sure I understand what you are saying here. Do you mean that the entire move discussion has been subverted or that it was just necessary to fix something formal for the discussion to continue? -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 02:32, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- @SashiRolls: No, that was just a fix for the bot's sake, because it's not permissible to hold an RM to move to a page with content that isn't a redirect or blank. Therefore, the disambiguation needs to go to a new title, so that the original move is possible. Simply a formality more than anything else. EggRoll97 (talk) 04:46, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- I can't remember if I pressed the thank button or not when I read this. Thank you for taking the time to explain. :) -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 23:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Washington companies
Thank you for closing Talk:List_of_Washington_(state)_companies#Requested move 4 July 2023, but it looks like the page hasn't been moved. I assume this is just an oversight, but if there is an issue let me know. I can also move it if you would like. Cheers, Mdewman6 (talk) 18:40, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Mdewman6: Sorry about that. I thought it moved, but it apparently did not. I've moved the page. EggRoll97 (talk) 00:03, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, EggRoll97! I saw you closed this requested move today. Since you're a page mover, I am alerting you on a possible move review since I'm not satisfied with the outcome though you saw it. 162 etc. reverted my RM at RMTR saying "It's ambiguous", when in reality it's not. If you look through the page history, others in the past performed very confusing page moves on it to the point where it got pointless and nonsensical to have the "Ivory Coast" disambiguator added to the title. I may also humbly suggest you rather move the page to "San Pedro, Ivory Coast" like it was before or my "San-Pédro" title. My rationale for opening the RM is not to be seen as edit/move warring so as to get me blocked/banned! Intrisit (talk) 16:30, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Intrisit: I'm sorry you feel that the closure was incorrect, but consensus is clearly against your proposed move. I cannot close an RM against consensus, that would be an inappropriate close. You are welcome to take the close to move review if you wish. EggRoll97 (talk) 18:33, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi EggRoll97 - just to say, your close is a fair one given the discussion that took place, and frankly I find Intrisit's approach a little bizarre here, casting aspersions at multiple editors in the RM and making strange unfounded accusations that people want to see them blocked. But that aside, I actually think there is some merit in the move... I don't think there actually is any other usage of San-Pédro with that diacritic (that's not part of the standard Spanish name) so I actually would support that move. Please could you consider relisting it for another week so we can try to make the point without the side drama of accusing other editors of things? Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 14:59, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Curious as to why you've put this edit through as it was. The filter blocks emojis for a reason and the football icons on the page are not emojis but instead images that come from a template. Uhai (talk) 23:33, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Uhai: I didn't notice the other ones were images from a template. I went to replace it after seeing your message and noticed you already did it. Thank you. EggRoll97 (talk) 02:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, as far as I'm aware, emojis aren't used in any articles—or at least, shouldn't be. Small images that often closely resemble emojis are what are used (e.g. for country flags and sport medals) but this sometimes confuses new users who add emojis without looking at how the rest of the article does things. I just dealt with this a few weeks ago with a user who was trying to add medal emojis like 🥇 to an article. Thanks! Uhai (talk) 06:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Uhai: Yeah, I was under the impression it was one of those articles that had consensus to use emojis or something of that nature. Didn't even know we had images for them. EggRoll97 (talk) 18:00, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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