User talk:Kudpung/Archive Apr 2010

Related to the sticky prod talk

Thanks for your notes and support. At this point, I think any de-adminning of SlimVirgin is unlikely and maybe overkill (as far as I know, she hasn't misused the tools). But other action might be appropriate. Maurreen (talk) 07:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Point taken. However, certainly one should be able to expect sysops to be a role model.--Kudpung (talk) 09:14, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Just a question

Hi ,Kudpung; I was just hoping you could (when you have a second) could look here Wikipedia talk:Proposed deletion of biographies of living people#Proposals section, in( 53.1 Proposal 1 )my statement about "Auto-Editing" or "Huggle", have you heard any discussion of this. Just for my curiosity, No rush, Thanks Mlpearc MESSAGE 17:50, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

It has been generally assumed that Twinkle will automaticaly notify the creator/major contributor that their article has been sticky prodded. Some people are now suggesting that the creators/major editors should not be notified. However, IMO, that would defeat the entire purpose of creating this sticky prod. The RfC actually discussed the notification feature as taken for granted. The current problem is that the Twinkle programmers seem to have gone on vacation.--Kudpung (talk) 12:20, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. As I was reading your message it accrued to me that there was talk about a bot doing a lot of the notifying, I was just curious since I have recently been using Huggle (which I'm finding to removed and impersonal, makes me feel more like a bot than an Editor). I am surprised that notification was even being questioned anyway. SV told me about the the fact that the editor asking for undeletion would have to come armed with the required source. Again thanks for your time and response, I will see you around :) Mlpearc MESSAGE 16:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Canvassing

I'm not sure whether you were being rhetorical, but there is Wikipedia:Canvassing. Also, thank you for the e-mail! Maurreen (talk) 05:41, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I know the guideline Wikipedia:Canvassing quite well because I do a lot of canvassing (mainly as the micromanager of a Wikipedia project), and do not under any circumstances wish to leave myself open to being accused of doing something untoward. I have been unable to find anything inappropriate in the canvassing you did recently, unless of course you had been selective in your choice of addressees, which of course I did not scrutinize. I'll just repeat again that I feel you have come in for an unfair amount of flak in this sticky BLP process, and it seems to be always from the same quarter(s).--Kudpung (talk) 08:58, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I figured you probably did know about Wikipedia:Canvassing.

I do appreciate your support.

Next time -- if there is a next time -- maybe I'll let someone else be the messenger.

Maybe sometime I'll be able to help you. Maurreen (talk) 07:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Your note

I've replied to your latest post, but I'd appreciate it if you could stop posting on my talk page. You and Maurreen have posted there 32 times since March 17. I understand your points, but it's a bit much, and it's probably best at this point to agree to disagree. Many thanks, SlimVirgin ^{talk contribs} 02:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

There is no harm in disagreement if it's kept in a friendly and encouraging tone. However, if you have been able to understand the general message that is being conveyed by us and one or two other editors, that's the main point, and we hope that communicating and collaborating with you will be easier. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 08:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Help

I am writing this message to two editors, I will post it at both editors talk page. I know the subject matter is or may not be your interest but it doesn't have to be for you to help me. Both of you I trust and you do have the experience to help me out. First ( This is my first proposal ), first question Here is the proposal, is the format OK or Correct. Second how would I notify / advertise to the interested community ? If it's not to much could you reply on my talk. Thank you Mlpearc MESSAGE 02:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Mlpearc; i'm looking into your links right now. On first view, it does not seem that your intention would need a debate, but I'll let you have more details later today.--Kudpung (talk) 08:41, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Sir, I'll be in the background Thanx Mlpearc MESSAGE 15:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

One thought, after going through This and thru This has got me wanting to be ready for "anything" and again thank you very much for your time and input. Mlpearc MESSAGE 15:30, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Herefordshire

Fantastic. Thanks for joining the project. Any help you can give will be much appreciated. I've still got a few more pages to create, but will try to get these done in the next day or so. Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 11:12, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

New Flight Time re-write

• Current working re-write and proposed section "to be" inserted can be seen Here Mlpearc MESSAGE 22:57, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey my Friend

You left me a message Here, and as far as I remember I don't have anything to do with this one, I looked at the page history and don't see me anywhere. If I'm missing something please come and strighten me out. The only thing I have been doing lately is the Flight Time Proposal. I did notice that this editor User:Patchy1 does have a lot of AfD "doing's" at that page. Again if I'm missing something come stright over and slap me around "you have my number" and show me. Thanks my friend Mlpearc MESSAGE 15:39, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I should have left a fairly long message describing the edits I had done for you to the Flight Time insertion. Looks like a misconnection did not actually post the message. Do have a look though, because I think it's ready for inserting now, see User:Mlpearc/Sandbox 3.0 The other message concerned the exchange between yourself and Nebiepedian. Maybe I got my wires crossed - applogies if I did, it can happen ;) --Kudpung (talk) 22:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey, yeah at first I didn't know what happend at "Flight Time", then I traced it to your edits, and to be honest I did not like it. but I keept looking at it and at first I was thinking it looked a little better with the links, then I remembered I had a discussion with I think, Looper? about the fact I did not think it was proper to have links anywhere in a Citation, I was working on the 3rd Recon's Medal of Honor's pages like Here I formated, added the thumb, and signatures to the citations for all four recipients (alittle bragging, I do think they look good !(P.S. I also did the Awards sections just above thier Citations)). But no worries my friend I think you did a great job, I think it's Exactly the way it should be, and I like it. As far as Nebiepedian if he has issues with me he also has my number. Question: you say you think Flight Time is ready insertion, I was wondering how long to keep the discussion open, now I want to "error" on the side of too much on this because I want this discussion to be just a tad above "proper". let me know what ya think, later my friend Mlpearc MESSAGE 23:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I think you should insert it now. Changes or additions like these do not usually attract much comment when offered for debate and I personally can't see how it can be further improved, except maybe for adding the page and paragraph numbers to the link to the declassified secret army document - it's very long and I was unable to locate the actual mention of the Flight Time report. The thing to do now is WP:BOLD, insert your addition to the main article, and wait and see if anyone does any new edits to it. It won't be deleted or anything drastic because I've improved the references. I removed all the Wikilinks because a blockquote must be clean and true to the original, besides which, there is generally no need to link common nouns at all (See: WP:OVERLINK) and the rest of the information is obvious.

The message about Newbiepedian was that there is no need to PROD, AfD, or CSD articles about human settlements - they are always defacto notable, whether they have any references or not. However, they should of course be real places that figure on official maps, and not just the location of a windpump on someone's farm :) For an example of a good, complete settlement stub, see Callow End. Let me know if you need any more help.--Kudpung (talk) 06:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok it's going in and the discussion will remain open if anybody has something to say. Mlpearc MESSAGE 15:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Fine. Good luck. You can always delete the debate and test pages per WP:U1 if you don't want them any more, because they are in your own user space.--Kudpung (talk) 15:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I think I'm just going to let the water settle for a while and sit back and see what happens, all that is just house keeping now, and a very sincere Thank you Mlpearc MESSAGE 15:58, 20 April 2010 (UTC) P.S. please don't close the discussion, I will do that after a few days, I still want a place for anybody to vent or whatever. Thanks Mlpearc MESSAGE 16:01, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry. That debate and test page were in your own user space and does not need a formal consensus and/or closure. Also, it is not polite to interfere too much with people's user space except in very serious cases of spam, vandalism, or personal attacks.--Kudpung (talk) 16:16, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I ment no Offence, I hope none was taken Mlpearc MESSAGE 16:22, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Of course not, no offence taken whatsoever - It's been a pleasure collaborating with you on this :) Don't hesitate to yell out if you need more opinions on anything anytime. Take care, Kudpung (talk) 16:27, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Wellingborough GA?

Yes I think its in great shape but there are 4 minor points that may need to be addressed on the list. Do you think that points are important enough not for it to succeed the GA rating? Likelife (talk) 15:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Check them out - they are things you are more familiar with than I am. Decide if they are really important and if you still can't find RS for them, just edit them out, or take the risk and leave them in. It's not the length that makes a GA. However, reviewers always like to find something, because they often like to take some of the credit for the GA., so we don't want it too perfect ;) --Kudpung (talk) 16:00, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Copyedit Backlog Elimination Drive

Hi, as a member of the Guild of Copy Editors you're hereby notified of and invited to participate in the WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/May 2010. Please help us eliminate the 8,000+ copyedit backlog! Participating editors will receive barnstars and other awards, according to their level of participation. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 00:10, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Blurpeace RfA

That neutral was quite eloquently worded. Keegan (talk) 07:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and I'm 28, American, with a BA in history. It's been on my userpage at various points, but I'm liking my current style :) And yes, my name is Keegan. Keegan (talk) 07:26, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah, but you're already a sysop, so you've already run the gauntlet and that's fine by me ;)