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Italicizing in hatnotes

re your edit:

Which guideline are you talking about? Please take a look at the page in question. The hatnote template italicizes the whole text. As a result the juornal title is italicized in the text body, but not the book title in the hatnote. And this looks weird. - Altenmann >talk 17:03, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

I was talking about the WP:ITHAT guidance in our Wikipedia:Hatnote guideline (which I cited in my first edit's summary). It is true that my edit made the book title not italicized. I disagree however that it looks weird.

The way I think of it is that italicized text stands out fron normally un-italicized text (e.g. the text body), and un-italicized text (i.e. the book title in this situation) stands out from normally italicized text (e.g. our hatnotes). Note that in the hatnote we're talking about, only the journal name is un-italicized and so it stands out from the rest of the hatnote.

The practice is mentioned in Italic type § Italics within italics and some style guides recommend it (like the APA Publication Manual here and the Chicago Manual of Style here), which might have inspired our guidelines to recommend the same. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 18:00, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

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Use of quotes instead of italics for used technical jargon

Hey LightNightLights,

your edit to Anna's Archive seems incompatible with MOS:WAW, you say that the word "scraped" is used, not mentioned, to distinguish between use and mention, you used quotes. I find this usage to be incorrect. An example of distinguishing between use and mention is found on the Use-mention distinction page, as well as at MOS:WAW. Both use quotes to indicate a mention, not a use. As far as I understand, either italics or no formatting should be used in case of a use, not a mention. Please explain your use of quotes.

--Holzklöppel (talk) 13:48, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out in my talk page. I used quotes not because of MOS:TERM, which I don't think applies here. I used quotes because scraping is a technical term and, in my experience, technical terms that the general public doesn't know are quoted. If scraping was not technical, I would be against either italicising or quoting it, but I think that it is technical. (I linked MOS:WAW primarily because it talks about the use–mention distinction.)

I reverted your italicisaton because you cited MOS:TERM. MOS:TERM says that "a technical or other jargon term being introduced is often being mentioned as a word rather than (or in addition to) playing its normal grammatical role; if so, it should be italicized or quoted, usually the former", and I think the word scraping is used (playing its nornal grammatical role), not mentioned. (An example of a sentence where scraping is mentioned and would therefore be italicised is "Merriam-Webster designated the term scraping as their Word of the Year for 2073".) LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 15:07, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. You're right, "scraping" is just used here, and MOS:TERM doesn't apply. I was surprised by your revert, went to look up what the usual way to introduce technical terms was, and found MOS:TERM. Regardless of whether MOS:TERM applies, in my opinion, italics are still the better fit, because quotation marks are also used for, well, quotes, and scare quotes, while the only other use for italics I can think of is emphasis, which wouldn't be counter-productive here. Seems like the APA style guide agrees, which I found by searching "technical term italics or quotes".

--Holzklöppel (talk) 15:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't think the Manual of Style has a recommendation on italicising or quoting technical terms, so I'm okay with conceding to the way that APA does it. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 16:30, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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Michael Mosley

Died 5 June 2024 [1]https://www.iefimerida.gr/ellada/symi-brethike-o-paroysiastis-toy-bbc 2A02:587:CC0C:FC00:CD1C:C63B:587D:54D2 (talk) 10:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

My previous analysis was that Mosley was not confirmed dead yet according to the sources I could find on Google. Now, some of the sources there say that his death is confirmed. I'll take your source into account. Thanks! LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 10:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Redirects from species to genus

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Thanks for the warning! Do you know if there is a place where I can request mass deletions? I created redirects for all 27 of Synallactes's species, not just mcdanieli.

Other than that, it might be useful to future editors for us to modify the text of or delete {{R from species to genus}} if creating redirects from species to genus is against consensus. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 10:20, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

I think you just put the speedy template on all of them, there is probably some sort of easy record-keeping procedure the deleting admin follows. I made a note on the {{R from species to genus}} template. Abductive (reasoning) 21:43, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

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