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Age of admins

Certainly, it is possible for a 15-year-olds to be a responsible admin. However, from the perspective of someone who is much older, I find that it is less likely that a 15 year old has the ability to stand in the middle of a heated disagreement and keep cool. If Mets had a significant history talking to others, dealing with controversy, and discussing policy, I would not have brought up age as an issue, but since I did not find evidence of how he behaves under pressure age became more of an issue. -- Samuel Wantman 06:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by a "double digit brain cell" and what you think is a misconception. I know some amazing 15 year olds that are more capable than many 50 year olds. However, a 15-year-old has at most 15 years of experience with other people, and perhaps just a few years trying to mediate conflicts purely verbally. So I don't think it is a misconception to state that more 15-year-olds would fail miserably as Wikipedian admins than those with more life experience. As I have said I am more than willing to respond positively to a 15-year-old who shows evidence of maturity, but without evidence, I am more likely to oppose. -- Samuel Wantman 06:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

VandalProof Moderators

Sorry, forgot to post this when I made you a mod:

Thank you for your willingness in helping me out with VandalProof! You've now been made a moderator, so when you load VandalProof the next time, you should see 'Moderator' in front of your username, and you should also find the Moderate List item under the User Tools menu. I've made a very basic page explaining what's expected of moderators and how to do certain tasks, which can be found here: User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof/ModeratorTools. If you change your mind and don't want to moderate, please contact me. Again, thanks! AmiDaniel (Talk) 06:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

New Sig

Ah! huge relief you changed your signature. I hated the old one, could'nt see a thing! Probably was the reason for all the oppose votes in your RFA, think your fortunes will change now. :D Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 09:21, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

CJ summary removal of bone fide member

Please refer to WP:POINT#Gaming the System, you're making a mockery of community justice by defeating the whole purpose of community. I take it you support war-gamers?

Removal of a bone fide member by CJ Chair

Please refer to [[WP:POINT#Gaming the System]. You are making a mockery of "community justice" and defeating the aims of community. I take it you support summary executions of justice, war gamers, and unilateral declarations of war? Ethnopunk 15:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

TY

D Computerjoe's talk 16:12, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

Master of Puppets make sure not to let your RfA discourage you or anything, I've seen too many users leave Wikipedia after their RfA and I would hate to see that happen to you. Also I suggest that you don't withdraw your RfA, you never know what may happen. At first my RfA was doing poorly but in the end it succeeded. Also don't take people's objections personally, the users who know you know that you are a friendly and kind user and that some of those oppose votes might be harsh. Jedi6-(need help?) 21:39, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Glad to hear that. :-) Jedi6-(need help?) 21:44, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Ditto to that! You have lots of support, whatever happens. -- Natalya 02:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

My vote on your RFA

I seriously want to support you on your RFA because you are my friend and I believe you would uphold the duty to the best of your ability but after telling me that you were considering a nom in July or around that time, I couldn't support you. If you don't pass this time, retry in August or somewhere around that time. ;-) Moe ε 22:17, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, people call me immature and I'm older than you are. Ugh, to think, people possiblly younger than me calling me immature. :-) Moe ε 22:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, unforunantly, the crap I have to deal with regarding a few choices users I won't mention here by name have driven me off. I am going to stay on Wikipedia for a little while longer to respond to any messages/complaints/vandalism I recieve but this is effectivly my last day. -- Moe ε 01:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Not even a psychiatrist could explore the deepest portion of my mind and come back alive. ;-p Moe ε 01:31, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Boy, if I told you the things I felt bad about, depressed over, worried about and mad at you would likely quit Wikipedia too. :-) But seriously, I don't even the longest of wikibreaks is going to fix this. If you have your e-mail enabled I can keep in touch with you that way. Moe ε 01:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

To give you an idea of how disturbed or upset I am I have a pair of headphones on and was listening to music when I realized that the music had stopped.. err.. 2 hours ago. So here I am typing with headphones on and no music coming out, odd comparison to life I find in this. I will try e-mailing you now. Moe ε 01:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

VP Bug

This happened again. I'm gonna go ahead and take you off the mod list until you get your IE bug fixed or until we can resolve your VP problems. I truly would appreciate your help once we can get this sorted out, but for now I think it's best this way. Sorry. AmiDaniel (Talk) 01:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

The happy vandal

Thanks for reverting my user page; I'm flattered that it's on your watchlist. Believe it or not, I'm pretty sure that the "vandal" is a friend of mine from school. I'm going to give his summary a little place on my userpage as well. TheJabberwʘck 04:15, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

seven nations albums

The reason that those two pages say what they say is because I was trying to work on the pages for each of those albums and one of the things that needs to be done is to put them in the category of seven nations albums. I don't understand exactly why the two pages say exactly the same thing as the category page instead of containing a link to the category page. If you know how to fix this would you please help me and let me know what I did wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willsketch (talk • contribs) 04:20, 28 April 2006Old Ground is what you made changes to. You made it a redirect back to the Seven Nations article.

Some sort of favour?

Hey there, I noticed your page is quite nice looking and are (am?) wondering if you could do something similar for my user page, if you can do this I would be willing to do a favour for you or trade your services for Mrfish's sand. Cheers,Jive Monk 04:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar Thanks!

Thank you so much for the Barnstar. Thats my fourth in the past 8 days! Seriously I've been eating, drinking, sleeping (unfortunately I have to get up to go to the loo, I don't have a laptop ;) ) on Wikipedia for the past two weeks or so. I've been considering to run for adminship for a while now. Do you think I should first put myself for Editor's review first?

Cheers

Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 05:34, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the part about getting more Wikipedia space & namespace edits. Namespace is not a problem, I've been on RC patrol with VandalProof & will get to the desirable namespace count. But for Wikipedia space I've been voting for RFA's & I just started reporting stuff to the WP:AIV noticeboard yesterday. Anyplace else I can work? I've tried to vote in AFD's but was too caught up in my mainspace work. BTW what about mainspace edits, do you think I have enough? I'll hit 3000 edits today so that'll rise a little. Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 05:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I noticed you have a good number of Wikipedia space votes (274}. How did you get them. Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 06:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Just crossed 3000 edits :-D Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 09:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

User page

Wow, this is the first I've ever had the time to take a look over your userpage... which is odd, because I know I've reviewed some of your contributions for a vote on your RfA. At any rate, it's pretty impressive to look at. With you hinting at being able to give me a hand with mine sooner or later, I'm thinking I'm gonna have to bump up my return offer of an NPOV check to... uh... hm... a haiku written in your honor. Yeah, that'll be good. Tijuana Brass^¡Épa!-E@ 12:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

RfA Status

As your nominator, I recommend you withdraw and wait a few months so that can you rectify some of the problems cited by the opposition in your RfA. Namely, low mainspace article count, 100% edit summaries, and less 'fluffy' contributions. Once you have corrected all these problems you're a shoe in to become an admin. TDS ^email 14:34, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

You need to start putting seperate discussions under seperate headers, rather then bundling them together under 'Welcome to Esperanza.' TDS ^email 14:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Trading spaces

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Hello, Master of Puppets, thank you for signing up to participate in Esperanza's trading spaces program. As you requested to renovate another user's page, you will be renovating DaGizza's userpage. Please contact DaGizza on their talk page about the renovating. The renovating will be listed at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Programs#Undergoing_Renovation, please feel free to update the status as it changes. Enjoy!

Independence Day

I added 5 million internal links, just wanted you to check it please. If it's good, I won't bug you anymore, but I just wanted to know. Thanks. The ed17 17:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC) P.S. I edited under an IP address by accident.

rfa thanks

M o P, thanks for your support on my RFA. It was, as well, my pleasure to support you on your own RFA. I sincerely hope that you stick it through and succeed, or if you withdraw, that you try again in the future: you'll assuredly succeed. If you ever need anything, please holler at me. ⇒ SWATJester ^Ready Aim _Fire! 01:00, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Your request

Will do. I will check back in later to check on all my friends so don't worry, you haven't seen the last of me. ;-) Moe ε 02:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, hopefully by the time I check in on you all again, you will all have admin powers to block the evil trolls. Boy, do I have a list of evil trolls that need blocking for all you admins out there ;-) Moe ε 02:19, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: RFA

Well, you certainly can comment on others' votes; it's just that it's usually considered poor form at best and harrassment at worst. There are many things an editor can do on Wikipedia which would disqualify him for adminiship, in my opinion. Now, your comments have been polite, for the most part, and I don't think you were being rude or harrassing. However, you should realize that many people, I included, may accept one or two comments clearing up a point, but feel that candidates should not "debate" or "rebut" all the opposition points. In particular, if the candidate has already addressed the point with another user, he should not repeat this each time someone votes with similar reasoning. A suitable alternative would be placing remarks in the "comments" section, explaining and clarifying, rather than making it personal by attaching it to individual's comments. — Knowledge Seeker দ 05:05, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Requests for adminship are high-stress situations, and I've seen more than user leave Wikipedia as a result. Your current approach appears reasonable to me. You might also keep an eye on RFA for awhile to see how other users handle the situation; that'll probably give you better guidance than anything I can say. Good luck for next time! — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:27, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Renovation

sorry that it has taken so long for me to respond. I love what you have done, the colours are great. Thanks soo much [[User:Bananagirl|Banana Girl]][[ User:talk ]]11:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, I was looking at the page and i saw that most of the sections could be expanded. I saw that there were others that couldn't. Would there be someway for me to change that? I believe that I may know how to change the colours for later. I love them for now but in time may wish to change them. Again, I am so sorry about the time it took for me to respond. I dont have the ability to edit on wikipedia much due to being at boarding school but i did notice and appreciate your efforts. Thank you so muchBananagirl talk 12:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Ooh, another thing. I love your sign/vandalise box! /its so cool!Bananagirl talk 12:22, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you sooo much!!!!!Banana Girl 01:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Renovating my userpage

Thanks for offering to renovate my userpage! It's crammed full of lists and other junk. I will be almost inactive from now to 24 May though, so hopefully by then we are both ready discuss how to do a serious makeover on my userpage! Gizza^{Chat ©} 11:34, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Proposition

Hi. You probably have no idea who I am, but from what I gather you have a good taste in music, and I am fairly sure I've seen you on WP:Pro Wrestling. Is there any chance of collaborating and starting a Wikiproject about the music of wrestling (PPV themes, WWE produced albums, Entrance Music etc)? I would do it myself but I guarantee you I would muck it up. please consider this, as I feel, maybe with the help of Paulley, JFred and if he doesn't quit - God I hope he doesn't - Moe Epsilon, all of whom I will contact, we would make a damn good team. Thanks. Kingfisherswift 12:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I have seen you are quite the designer, so if you could, could you make a template to put on discussions of pages linking to Wikipedia:WikiProject Music of wrestling. That would be great. Cheers. Kingfisherswift 10:36, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

This is Moe

Hello MoP, just thought I would let you know that I was leaving Wikipedia, but before I left, I finally got a picture of thyself onto Wikipedia. (I know great timing for me to post a picture of myself, right?) This is my final gift to my friends. Later! PS. Try not to laugh to hard at my ugly mug ok? Moe ε 16:04, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Lol, I got insulted and I laughed. :-P No Italian, although many think that, I have English, German and Cherokee indian though. Moe ε 16:28, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, interesting.. Oh, why would I make fun of mullets; they're awesome. ;-) Moe ε 16:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

lol. Yeah, I had a mullet once, but it was when I was in the second grade... err.. let me say that again, when I was in the second grade.. yeah, I was weird. Moe ε

He was on Ripley's for having a mullet?? I always though mullets were weird but not Ripley's kind of weird. Moe ε 16:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

A child bodybuilder and a mullet.. now that.. thats weird. :-p I wonder why he decided to grow a mullet though? Maybe to take the attention away from his six pack abs. Moe ε 16:50, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Ahh.. but we were having such a great conversation about mullets though.. oh well.. I'll keep in touch. Peace. Moe ε 16:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Good Luck In Your RFA

Good luck in you RFA - You have my strongest support. All we can do now is sit tight and pray to all the Gods of all the religions of all the planets of the universe. Kingfisherswift 18:20, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

It's OK - don't worry, Oakster came up with one. If you want to create a basic one that links them all to WP:MoW, be my guest and we'll use both, but you don't have to worry. Is there a project on Rock Music? - I too am a rabid fan all bands with a guitar that goes to 11. Kingfisherswift 18:26, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Bot

Oh, my god, I am terribly sorry. I always wondered if a bot went around and done this, but now I see that they don't. Thank you again... oh, and I couldn't help but reading the first comment on this talk page... but I am a 14 year old admin... Kinda weird, huh? Thanks again, Kilo-Lima|^(talk) 18:31, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Ga!

Waaa! Don't be mean! Leave me alone!!! I won't go, I won't I won't I won't! :) Lol, in seriousness, the wikibreak is working, doing it's job, keeping me at work and away from the computer, but, well, I thought I'd just look in...(So says the addict)... Regards 165.165.127.37 18:52, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Your imposter

Ha! I guess he is a real puppet huh? Hey look at this. Moe ε 19:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Your signature

Hey,

Can I just say your signature is very long. Personally, I find 3/4 lines a bit too much. Once, I had a pretty signature but I had a message like this begging me to shorten it.

Nuffin' personal or 'out. :P

Thanks, Computerjoe's talk 19:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

TY for your co-operation. Computerjoe's talk 19:56, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Dude, I wasn't talking visible size - I was talking code size! I saw you cut it down, but not in the way I meant :( Computerjoe's talk 19:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

In the editing view, it takes up quite a bit of space. This makes editing slightly harder. Hope you understand. Computerjoe's talk 20:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for getting me unblocked.

Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Do you even sleep...? Computerjoe's talk 20:13, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Mensa vandal

Clearly, we must have misunderstood him, he must be at a completely different level of editing :) -Obli (Talk)^? 23:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I must be doing something right!!!

I am not a recent changes watcher(much) but browsed a few just for fun and ended up catching an anon IP with a vicious personal agenda. I put VandalProof to good use and rv'd him. He decided he didn't like me and attacked my user page several times. A couple of good samaritans jumped in and rescued it. That's the first time I've raised the ire of a pea-brain'd editor enough to go after me personally. Makes me SO proud! and BTW, no matter how your rfa goes, you'll always have my "wiki"-respect. Cheers and take care! Anger22 00:11, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

RfA

Hi MoP. As your nominator, I am again advising you to withdraw your RfA and run again in a few months so that you can work on the weaknesses listed in your RfA. I think the opposition is too great for any bureaucrat to actually promote you now. It would be better to show that you are willing to work on these problems, and that you yourself can see them, then to drag this whole affair out. TDS | talk | email 00:27, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Experanza.

I have a question about Esperanza. So, What is the Esperanza? Because I have been curious about the Esperanza. I really don't know about Esperanza. Please, Could you explain to me about Esperanza? I will appreciate that. Daniel5127, 01:05, 1 May, 2006(UTC)

Admins

I noticed that you were running for administrator. I'm willing to vote, but I've been wondering exactly what admins do. Could you please tell me? Thanks! --Evan Robidoux 01:12, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: DaGizza's userpage

Thanks for replying, I have seen what you are capable of on Srikeit's, Bananagirl and your own userpage. Can you show me any other pages your renovated? I have thought about putting some of my info on a sub-page while the rest can be organised in a portal style. For colours, I like all types blues, yellows, oranges ... maybe the dominant one teal? (The colour of my sig) The show/hide feature would be handy for some stuff. You can make a draft at my sandbox. Btw, I supported you on your RfA! Gizza^{Chat ©} 09:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Image

Quality, like the guitar between the elbow drop, excellent. I'm gonna put it next to the descendant wikiproject and on the front page of the project itself. Brilliant! Kingfisherswift 10:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

File:MusicInWrestling.jpg

Thats gonna leave a mark.

RfA

It would seem that I was out at the time. Looks like I need to get one of those Status indicators :P — Ilyanep (Talk) 11:23, 1 May 2006 (UTC)