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Proposed deletion of List of discontinued Guinness World Records

The article List of discontinued Guinness World Records has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Failure to meet WP:NLIST

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DYK for Edmonds Band Rotunda

On 2 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Edmonds Band Rotunda, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the basement of the Edmonds Band Rotunda (pictured) was once used as a kitchen? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edmonds Band Rotunda. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Edmonds Band Rotunda), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

DYK for E-Defense

On 4 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article E-Defense, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when the E-Defense was commissioned in 2005, it was the world's largest 3D earthquake shake table? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/E-Defense. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, E-Defense), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Macron Monitor

Kia ora, the bot lives on my Github, you're welcome to fork and submit PRs. David Palmer//cloventt ^(talk) 21:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks I'll take a look. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

1984 Southland floods

Hi Panamitsu, I have made good progress with the Draft:1984 Southland floods article. Have archived the references and incorporated the NIWA source into the article. The article now has an introduction section. I also split the impact section into an aftermath section. Is it ready to move into mainspace? We could also link it to other articles like the Southland Region and 1984 in New Zealand. Andykatib (talk) 00:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Excellent work. I've managed to find a free-to-use image and have added it to the article. I've also moved it to mainspace and added incoming links. I haven't written about it on the Southland Region article though. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Do you think we could put it on Did you know? I'm struggling to find something interesting about this article.

I know I said before we started that something that there was interesting about it, but it turned out I was confusing it was another event. For some reason I thought it involved a dam overflowing or almost overflowing, but it looks like that might've been the Otago floods of 1863 or the 2004 Bay of Plenty floods. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:58, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Panamitsu, good job on finding a free image and moving it to the mainspace. I don't think it is notable enough to go into the Did You Know page but it could go into the Southland Region and List of natural disasters in New Zealand pages. Cheers. Andykatib (talk) 06:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

DYK has no notability requirement. What it requires is an interesting hook. If you can think of one, I encourage you to nominate the article. Schwede66 15:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I've made a nomination now. ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

I know something interesting about it (in the DYK sense) but unfortunately I don't think it's documented anywhere (and "the civil defence guys thought it was a real crack up" doesn't constitute a reliable source). Apparently one of the guys "rescued" from a roof didn't actually need rescued - because of the fine weather the day after he was up on a roof painting it and was rather indignant about being "rescued". Otherwise one of the more iconic images (which, sadly, is almost certainly unavailable with a compatible licence) is of an unusual "igloo" shaped house (corner of Gimblett and Queens Drive if you're familiar with Invercargill) with only its domes visible. Daveosaurus (talk) 10:41, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Is the house still there? I'm unable to find it on Google Maps. Your comment intrigues me. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

No, it survived the floods but was replaced by a "normal" house some time after 2010. If you are using Google Street View, click on "See more dates" (in the top left window), select the January 2010 street view image and it's largely still visible amongst the mature trees that were also on site then. Daveosaurus (talk) 07:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Haha that's a funny looking house. Reminds me of the Dutch Bolwoningen. ―Panamitsu (talk) 08:03, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

It also had a vague Futuro House look to it. I think it was concrete? It would have been quite new in 1984 - it's visible on this Retrolens image https://files.interpret.co.nz/Retrolens/Imagery/SN8408/Crown_8408_F_13/High.jpg (from nine months or so after the flood) but half of the subdivision it's in isn't built up yet. Daveosaurus (talk) 10:02, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Ah yes, below and the trees on the top right of the image. Neat map. I wonder what the indicators on the left display. ―Panamitsu (talk) 10:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm not certain, but my guesses, working from left to right (bottom to top) would be: some sort of gyroscope to measure camera orientation; some sort of focusing tool; a clock reading almost 3:17 p.m.; a card stating which series of photographs this was. Retrolens is an interesting resource of raw aerial photography dating right back to the 1940s. Daveosaurus (talk) 17:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Edmonds (brand)

On 18 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Edmonds (brand), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that housewives were encouraged to keep Edmonds baking-powder tins to be used as bombs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edmonds (brand). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Edmonds (brand)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

1=Launchballer 00:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted

Hi Panamitsu, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled user right to your account. This means that pages you create will automatically be marked as 'reviewed', and no longer appear in the new pages feed. Autopatrolled is assigned to prolific creators of articles, where those articles do not require further review, and may have been requested on your behalf by someone else. It doesn't affect how you edit; it is used only to manage the workload of new page patrollers.

Since the articles you create will no longer be systematically reviewed by other editors, it is important that you maintain the high standard you have achieved so far in all your future creations. Please also try to remember to add relevant WikiProject templates, stub tags, categories, and incoming links to them, if you aren't already in the habit; user scripts such as Rater and StubSorter can help with this. As you have already shown that you have a strong grasp of Wikipedia's core content policies, you might also consider volunteering to become a new page patroller yourself, helping to uphold the project's standards and encourage other good faith article writers.

Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Schwede66 08:32, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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DYK for Leonardo da Vinci (Isaacson book)

On 21 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Leonardo da Vinci (Isaacson book), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Leonardo DiCaprio was set to star in the film adaptation of Leonardo da Vinci? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Leonardo da Vinci (Isaacson book). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Leonardo da Vinci (Isaacson book)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Your recent AWB edits

Per WP:AWBRULES I think you should desist from adding wikilinks to reference or bundle them together with other minor fixes. You are making up to 20 edits in a minute at times with this. 1news + RNZ could've been bundled for example and it'd save a lot of edits. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:43, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

@Traumnovelle: What rule exactly are you referring to? I've re-read all five and am still unsure. ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:44, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Number 4, although I guess that is a matter of interpretation. I don't believe there is any guideline/policy specifically prohibiting but I do feel it'd be better served if more trivial edits could be condensed into one or a slower speed is used for it. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:48, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

@Traumnovelle: Number 4 says:

Do not make insignificant or inconsequential edits. An edit that has no noticeable effect on the rendered page is generally considered an insignificant edit.

Do you consider adding a link as having "no noticeable effect on the rendered page"? A cosmetic change? ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

For a reference, yes. That is just my opinion ultimately and there is no actual policy covering this to my knowledge. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

As for the bundling, I'm not sure how to. Maybe there is a way but I don't know it. I'm using the query ' "RNZ" insource:/=RNZ/ ' to find the missing links, and am not sure how to do it for both RNZ and 1News at the same time. Do you know how? ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:54, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

@Traumnovelle: I've stopped these edits and have asked at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser if those edits break the rule. ―Panamitsu (talk) 03:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I've never used AWB. I assumed you could bundle things together as I've often seen people make AWB edits that make several changes like this: [1] Traumnovelle (talk) 04:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I believe those are general fixes (which are mostly cosmetic). I could bundle multiple link changes together, but my current way of searching for missing links would need to be changed in a way that I don't know how. Do you want me to enable general fixes? ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:10, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Wouldn't you be able to search for RNZ but also simultaneously add wikilinks to lets say Stuff if any exist on the change? Tying in general fixes/white space removal edits would help a bit too to reduce the amount of automated edits required. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Yes. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:16, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

That is what I was referring to. Searching for one but adding any others that pop up at the same time would prevent having the same page being edited twice which would reduce the overall volume. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I've asked at the talk page and the people there have said that it is not cosmetic, but have suggested that I fix multiple links at the same like you've said (e.g. both RNZ and Stuff). Do I have your permission to continue? ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:16, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

You don't need my permission, so go ahead. Traumnovelle (talk) 01:57, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

@Traumnovelle: Do edits like this satisfy you? I had fun writing a little Python script to generate the settings for AWB. ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:47, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Presuming you planned on doing all of them that edit saves five edits, so yes. Thank you. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Samsung Galaxy S25

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DYK for 1984 Southland floods

On 1 December 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1984 Southland floods, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that although nobody died in the 1984 Southland floods, about 12,000 sheep perished? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1984 Southland floods. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 1984 Southland floods), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Edmonds (brand)

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Nomination (award) Get on Wikipedia

How do I get a nomination (award) for Wikipedia? Thank you. Happy editing! WIKI sir captain 2008 (talk) 11:16, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're referring to. Sorry. ―Panamitsu (talk) 20:49, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

See: Does Wikipedia give stars to any work (article, edit) for example?. This is available on the All contributors page. Thank you. Happy editing! WIKI sir captain 2008 (talk) 07:37, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

When you make a 'did you know' or 'in the news' nomination that gets onto the main page you get a credit for it. Same with when you get an article to 'good article' or 'featured article' status. There are 'barnstars' that are awarded by Wikipedians to other Wikipedians, but they're just for fun and are not some sort of formal recognition of an award. Some people are formally recognised by being given the Wikimedian of the Year award.

The real reward of editing Wikipedia is personal fulfillment, not some award that is given by somebody. ―Panamitsu (talk) 08:13, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Clear and accurate answer. I admire you, sir. Thank you. Happy editing! WIKI sir captain 2008 (talk) 09:57, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Edmonds (brand)

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Proposed deletion of Figleaf (linguistics)

The article Figleaf (linguistics) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Apparent neologism. Consists of two sources by closely-related authors, who are not experts in linguistics (both philosophers). I'm skeptical that there exist enough sources for a discussion that would satisfy WP:NPOV.

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COI template

I'm not sure how the outing policy applies here but User:Pakoire has her real name listed on her profile. If you search for her name and the organisation in question you can discover what the COI is for yourself.

Mayhap I should instead open a post on WP:COI/N and ping Pakoire given this seems to extend to several articles and not just one. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Oh well that makes sense. Next time could you please explain in an edit summary or something why you think the template should be added? See Template:COI which says:

Like the other neutrality-related tags, if you place this tag, you should promptly start a discussion on the article's talk page to explain what is non-neutral about the article. If you do not start a discussion, any editor will be justified in removing the tag without warning. Be careful not to violate the policy against WP:OUTING users who have not publicly self-disclosed their identities on the English Wikipedia.

With the benefit of hindsight I now understand that you may have avoided naming her because of your concerns about outing. But maybe it would be a good idea if you could have explained what makes you think the article is non-neutral?

Looking at her edits I see that they're mostly adding alumni, images and missing citations. In one edit she even made the wording a lot more neutral. I don't think there is a problem with the edits at all and she has made the article much better. I suggest that you take a look at the edits before adding this template. ―Panamitsu (talk) 07:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

I think I will just start a discussion at COI/N the issue extends to over a dozen articles. I didn't really have time to review the articles hence why I added the templates instead of dealing with it myself. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

If you don't have time to check the edits them maybe you shouldn't add the templates. What's happening is you're causing other people to have to spend time checking the edits. And other people are low on time too. I'm going to revert your additions of the COI templates so you can re-add them if you see fit once you have more time to review Pakoire's edits.

Take a read of WP:TAGGING which says that Adding tags for non-obvious problems without discussion on the talk page which explains where the problems are is arguably not helpful. It can be viewed as disruptive and is often derided as "drive-by tagging" when done by editors who are not involved in the article's development. However, it is not actually "drive-by tagging" so long as they explain the rationale for the tag on the talk page. ―Panamitsu (talk) 07:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Pāuanui

Hi, thank you for your edit. You are correct that the name of the town Pāuanui is spelt differently depending on the website you visit. The reason for my belief that the correct spelling for the town is Pāuanui is due to the fact that the Thames-Coromandel Council uses this spelling. I have attached a link to where the Thames-Coromandel Council have spelt it this way. Thanks for your time, Thomas (Harbin Kiwi).

https://www.tcdc.govt.nz/Our-Council/About-our-Council/Our-Wards-Information/Tairua-Pauanui-South-Eastern-Ward Harbin Kiwi (talk) 08:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Maybe you could submit a request to rename that article. I had a look a few days ago and saw the town named both with and without a macron so I was unable to decide which is used more commonly. ―Panamitsu (talk) 08:40, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

DYK for GeoNet (New Zealand)

On 10 December 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article GeoNet (New Zealand), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Aucklanders have a reputation for making false earthquake reports on New Zealand's earthquake monitoring website GeoNet? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/GeoNet (New Zealand). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, GeoNet (New Zealand)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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SunDawn I did not start this article. I created the page in 2023, then someone turned it into a redirect, then last month someone turned the redirect into a new article (none of text came from me). ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Post nominal letters

FYI: MOS:POSTNOM says "post-nominal letters may be included in the main body of the article, but not in the lead sentence of the article." This is a relatively recent change per Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography/2023 archive#Proposal: Moving post-nominals from lead sentences to article bodies, and I think it has been strengthened even more recently, so probably few editors are familiar with it.-Gadfium (talk) 04:35, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Oh I had no idea. Thanks for telling me. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:43, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

A trout for you

See Alpine Fault zoomable map. ChaseKiwi (talk) 11:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Hahahaha. I suppose the source doesn't mean a perfectly straight line? I'll leave that article alone anyway. ―Panamitsu (talk) 11:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Fentanyl daycare incident

The article Fentanyl daycare incident has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:EVENT. Not shown to have lasting significance beyond routine news coverage of the incident and the federal criminal complaint/sentencing of connected people.

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Wow there seems to be a proposed deletion of Panamitsu's 2023 Wikipedia article creations backlog drive. ―Panamitsu (talk) 21:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Noticed this in passing given our recent exchange. Can you consider improving that article. I have minor CoI due to my employment in another jurisdiction so should not do so, but have removed the deletion notice and given hints for improvement direction and the specific reason which is outside my CoI in article talk. I note 2018 Amesbury poisonings is not slated for removal despite poisoning of civilians by nerve agents developed for military purposes being known since 1995. ChaseKiwi (talk) 22:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I've added the sentencing in 2024 but haven't bothered adding anything else because of my lack of interest in the article. ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok article might die, because I am only interested for reasons that raise CoI as I have specifically directed roles in my current jurisdiction for detecting, monitoring such deaths and warning health care professionals to be aware. ChaseKiwi (talk) 00:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of 2023 Bronx poisoning for deletion

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Bridget (talk) 01:41, 12 December 2024 (UTC)