Spleodrach

Consensus vs facts

How can the same article say that County Dublin is no longer a legal county but also that it remains a county? Consensus cannot mean ‘in denial’ GAAEditorIE (talk) 19:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

@GAAEditorIE: The issue has been discussed many times before but it you want to open a new discussion, please do so at WT:IE. Spleodrach (talk) 21:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

In addition to Spleodrach's point about discussions on WT:IE, I also refer you to the FAQ "What is the status of County Dublin?" heading on the Talk:County Dublin page. This issue has been discussed there at least 8 times and the current framing is what has been agreed. (ie that Dublin is a current cultural / colloquial county that retains limited official use rather than strictly being a former legal county). Jacobfrid (talk) 08:46, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your help GAAEditorIE (talk) 19:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Sockpuppet alert

You'd think we could wait till we get through the general before editing the presidential election almost a year away! FYI, the account who added the speculative information to 2025 Irish presidential election has been confirmed as that recurring sockpuppet account. Looks like we're going to have to remain on alert for their edits and new accounts. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 08:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. Glad to see they are blocked. Spleodrach (talk) 18:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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WP:INFONAT

Hey there,
Just a reminder that WP:INFONAT states that |nationality= shouldn't be placed in biography infoboxes. |citizenship= can be used, but only if the subject of the article holds citizenship of a state that wouldn't be obvious to the reader based on where they live. CeltBrowne (talk) 11:10, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @CeltBrowne:, thanks for that, I didn't know that it had been deprecated. Spleodrach (talk) 11:54, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Count Plunkett

Hi there - I noticed you've undone my changes with comment "name only, no title". Please see: https://www.dib.ie/biography/plunkett-count-george-noble-a7384 It is Wikipedia guidelines that a title of nobility that is part of the person's name and identity is included in the lead. May I ask your reason for removing? Kellycrak88 (talk) 11:47, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Kellycrak88:, I updated the article infobox to reflect the style of another Irish papal count, John McCormack. Spleodrach (talk) 14:12, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

I see, however Wikpedia official guidelines state that the title needs to be in the lead as part of the name.

Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(royalty_and_nobility)

Papal nobility would be classed as "Other cases" Treat other European nobility like British nobility above,

Therefore, the title also still needs to be added to the lead. Kellycrak88 (talk) 17:18, 16 December 2024 (UTC)