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The Signpost: 30 April 2019

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The Signpost: 31 May 2019

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The Signpost: 31 July 2019

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The Signpost: 30 August 2019

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The Signpost: 30 September 2019

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The Signpost: 31 October 2019

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The Signpost: 29 November 2019

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The Signpost: 27 December 2019

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First tone tone mark in Bopomofo

Hey- I just wanted to let you know that I removed ([1]) the first tone tone marks you added here: [2] Geographyinitiative (talk) 08:38, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

@Geographyinitiative: The first tone mark is actually optional. If you search Chinese characters in a dictionary from Taiwan, there are no first tone marks. However, if you type Chinese characters with a Bopomofo input method, the first tone mark can be typed via the space bar. --Yejianfei (talk) 08:59, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

I didn't know that and had never seen that before. Should I change it back? Is there a rule book for Bopomofo out there??? Sorry. Geographyinitiative (talk) 09:07, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

@Geographyinitiative: It doesn't matter. You can use either way. --Yejianfei (talk) 09:18, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Prove it. Geographyinitiative (talk) 22:43, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

If the points made above can be sustained by specific, authoritative and clear evidence, then Wikipedia needs to know about it. But as far as Wikipedia and Wiktionary are aware at this time, there is no first tone symbol in the Bopomofo system. (As I understand it, this aspect of bopomofo is the main part of the rationale behind having no first tone symbol in Tongyong Pinyin.) Xiandai Hanyu Cidian edition 7 (2016), Guoyu Jianbian Cidian [dict.concised.moe.edu.tw], Guoyu Chongbian Cidian [dict.revised.moe.edu.tw/] don't have any first tone symbols used with Bopomofo. For that reason, I would like to ask for proof of the claim that, "It doesn't matter. You can use either way." If first tone symbols in bopomofo are part of an input system for Mandarin Chinese, then I would like to know which input software you are referring to if at all possible so that that information might be incorporated into Wikipedia in some way. Geographyinitiative (talk) 23:49, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

As for an authoritative document, it is here [3]. As for input method, any Bopomofo input methods support the first tone mark, such as the built-in Bopomofo input method on Windows, just type the spacebar for the first tone mark. As for the built-in Bopomofo input method on iOS, it even displays 一聲 (first tone) on the spacebar of the virtual keyboard. --Yejianfei (talk) 00:36, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Wow! What an amazing thing you have pointed out! But even in that manual, there is no actual character's ruby text that adds this tone mark, so there must be some rule that allows for the existence of this mark on a theoretical level but doesn't actually permit its usage in actual transcriptions. Can you show me any example of that symbol being used anywhere in a Bopomofo ruby text for a character? Geographyinitiative (talk) 00:48, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Same document: "韻符「ㄭ」，陰平調號「」，注音時省略不標." I will add this to the Bopomofo page- let me know what you think when I have made that edit! Geographyinitiative (talk) 00:51, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Since Wiki Commons does not allow copyrighted software, I cannot upload the screenshot of Windows built-in input methods. Here is a screenshot from weasel input method, which is a GPL software. --Yejianfei (talk) 00:52, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

The document just simply says "以一短橫代表高平之聲調，注音時可省略不標。" --Yejianfei (talk) 00:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)--Yejianfei (talk) 00:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

But the document's 凡例 on page 2 says "韻符「ㄭ」，陰平調號「」，注音時省略不標, and no actual first tone marks are used anywhere in the manual. As I am reading it, the first tone mark does exist in the hypothetical in the Bopomofo system, but that the official rule is that it is always omitted in actual practice. See my new edit on the Bopomofo page. Geographyinitiative (talk) 01:05, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

If we can get some citable document from the input method you are talking about, then I would say we should add that to the Bopomofo page in some capacity. Geographyinitiative (talk) 01:07, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Ok, let me start over here if I can. I was a little bit too hostile toward your position at first because I was 100% cock-sure certain that the first tone mark could not ever possibly be part of Bopomofo because the dictionaries I love don't include it. But you have pointed out a really interesting thing about the actual rules of Bopomofo that I didn't know. Thanks for educating me and Wikipedia!

Now: get ready for this. The Mandarin Chinese version of the Bopomofo handbook and the English version of the bopomofo handbook have different wording when it comes to the first tone marker. Obviously we should go with the Mandarin Chinese version as the more authoritative version, but get a load of this: [4] says "This tone should be left out." where the Mandarin Chinese version says "標注在字音最後一個符號右上角。" Wow. So I think you are right on some level, but I am kind of thinking you are right on the same or similar level to the usage of ㄭ in Bopomofo, a symbol which can be used in academia but that in practice is never used (in my limited experience)

Are you saying that you use a keyboard that actually has an actual specific button for a first tone mark that is specifically for bopomofo??? If that's true, and if this first tone mark is really used a lot more than something like ㄭ , then we may want to include more about that on Wikipedia.

I ask your forgiveness for any rudeness I have conveyed here or elsewhere. This is an interesting and eye-opening discovery from my perspective, and I want Wikipedia and Wiktionary to get this right. Thanks for your patience and help. See my new edits on Bopomofo if interested. Geographyinitiative (talk) 04:10, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Your edit is fine. Thanks. --Yejianfei (talk) 04:41, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Are you saying that you use a keyboard that actually has an actual specific button for a first tone mark that is specifically for bopomofo? Yes and no. The spacebar is the first tone button if you turn on the bopomofo input method. It is a button physically on the keyboard, but it is not an extra button. It is just the spacebar. --Yejianfei (talk) 04:46, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Here is the tip for bopomofo input method: [5]. 系統會在您於一個音節後輸入聲調（空白鍵用來輸入一聲）- The system will input the tone mark after a syllable (spacebar for the first tone) --Yejianfei (talk) 04:54, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

I want to add the image you uploaded to the Bopomofo page-- can I use your image? I want add something like this:

Example of Bopomofo input for the term 天地 (pinyin: tiān dì, meaning: 'heaven and earth') with Bopomofo input ㄊㄧㄢˉ ㄉㄧˋ (usually written as ㄊㄧㄢ ㄉㄧˋ)

Thanks for your time Geographyinitiative (talk) 22:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

I invite your rewording on this. Geographyinitiative (talk) 23:10, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Sure. Just do it. --Yejianfei (talk) 01:03, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 January 2020

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The Signpost: 29 March 2020

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The Signpost: 26 April 2020

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The Signpost: 31 May 2020

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The Signpost: 28 June 2020

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The Signpost: 27 September 2020

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The Signpost: 27 September 2020

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