Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barbara Hawkins Elementary School

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The result was trainwreck. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 17:03, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barbara Hawkins Elementary School

Also nominating the following schools (others in the district have already been nominated separately):

Note:Coral Gables Elementary School has been removed due to nominator's request to withdraw the article from the afd.--JForget 15:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Short stubs (except for the apparently copyvio Sunset Elementary, from here) of schools in the Miami-Dade county schools. Elementary schools don't inherently have notability, and these ones are average schools, not notable ones. Nyttend 01:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all as non-notable schools. Sunset has been tagged as copyvio. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?)} 01:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
These articles are not all the same-- I have checked each one of them and specifically, if it is not decided to relist, Delete, except:

Keep for "The Coral Gables Elementary School added to the U.S. National Register of Historic Places." Placement on the Register is always a keep, though the article needs to be expanded to discuss the building.

Keep for Dr. Carlos J. Finlay Elementary School, which is a laboratory school operated by the e FIU College of Education Episodes of the Disney Channel series Life With Derek have been filmed there.

Keep after rewriting to remove the copyvio for Sunset, which is notable for its exchange program,

I think the nom might not have carefully examined the individual articles--or else did not realise the Register of Historical places was notable. DGG (talk) 02:16, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Close too many articles in one bundle, any of which may merit individual consideration, as demonstrated above. Suggest relisting individually. FrozenPurpleCube 02:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Close articles should be considered individually for deletion, not all the same -Ebyabe 02:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's Comment: this is the first time I've ever bundled nominations. I guess this is the newbie in me :-) I'm quite aware of the notability of Register properties; I simply didn't notice. As far as Sunset: I didn't know what to think, but the obvious copyvio induced me to list it here. As far as Finlay: I'm not familiar with the Disney Channel thing, so that wouldn't have affected my original nomination even if it didn't have a {{fact}} tag on it. Nyttend`
comment the copyvio would ordinarily be a speedy, unless someone wants to rewrite it quickly instead. I'll do one of those a day & I already did one on something else; the fact tag on Finlay I take to mean it needs a reference, not that the truth is disputed.

I am a little reluctant to say it, but I think it may be just as easy scanning a group of these as going through the same number of individual ones as for the middle schools below. The difficulty is mainly if many of them need discussions, for it's hard to keep that straight. DGG (talk) 04:00, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (at a minimum) those schools whose buildings are historic buildings listed on the National Register of Historic Places. This includes Coral Gables Elementary School; there may be others (see List of Registered Historic Places in Miami-Dade County, Florida).--orlady 13:30, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
IT'S BACK-TO-SCHOOL TIME AT WIKIPEDIA Lots of school items marked down! Clearance time (or) you can save save save. Mandsford 16:18, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The above comment made me laugh. As far as this nom, I have no opinion. :) --Midnightdreary 23:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

lol, me too! Mathmo ^Talk 21:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all except the Bowman Foster Ashe School (weak keep) as there's seems to be some historical importance (although that can be merged with the person's article). Maybe a slight mention of them in the public school board's article if necessary.--JForget 01:46, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - Some of them have "unique" features, but I dont think they're enough to grant notability. As for the one managed by FIU, I dont see any special notability in that case Corpx 04:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. No assertion of notability. Eusebeus 10:30, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comment, I'd like to withdraw Coral Gables because of it being National Register. Nyttend 12:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Close ~~and relist~~ all as keep and allow immediate individual relisting - this is heading for a train crash; each article merits individual consideration which they are plainly not getting. This was an unreasonable multi-nomination. As a fail safe, if not ~~relist~~ closed as recommended:
- Keep Bowman Foster Ashe School
- Keep Dr. Carlos J. Finlay Elementary School
- Keep Leewood Elementary School (Florida grades A-F; an A grading for 7 consecutive years is hugely notable)
- Keep Sunset Park
- Keep Madie Ives Elementary School (meets WP:N with notable controversy) TerriersFan 02:27, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. —TerriersFan 02:56, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep All, massive listings like this deprive the individual articles from getting the proper attention they deserve to decide if they should be kept. (or in other words, similar views to those who expressed close) Mathmo ^Talk 21:49, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all and re-list separately if you want any hope of obtaining a reasonable consensus for fucks sake. Burntsauce 18:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep all and relist individually. The nominator just made too much work for the rest of us, although I'd be willing to consider merging most of these, just as I supported it for the middle schools from the same district. There are roughly 200 elementary schools in the Miami-Dade district, and I have no idea how a "List of elementary schools in ____" article would be organized if one were created as an alternative. Perhaps one list for now, with information from the articles we now have on individual elementary schools and then someone with more knowledge about the district and county could organize more narrowly focused lists if the initial one becomes too long. Noroton 23:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, on the basis that this combined listing is unmanageable. No implication is intended by this "keep" in the event that any of the schools are individually listed. -- DS1953 ^talk 22:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.