Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newa games

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The result was redirect to Newa people. Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:45, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Newa games

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A search on Google Books/news/etc for Newa games/Newar games brings up no sources. The page creator admits on the Talk page that there are no sources, and although they (using a new account) have tried to add references, one is to another WP page and another is to a dictionary definition. Mabalu (talk) 13:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:39, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tricky. Seems like the kind of article that A) we should have B) is very difficult for an English speaker to find reliable sources for and C) probably is primarily documented in paper sources. If this material could be verified I'd strongly urge us to keep it (meeting WP:N or not) but as it is I'm not sure what to do. Clearly doesn't meet our guidelines and I can't find a way to even meet WP:V. But the topic is clearly highly encyclopedic. Good luck. Hobit (talk) 14:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 00:14, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Sources found, really grasping here: There is a family in London that plays Dhun Kasa and Gha Kasa. Something that may be a reliable source is the Hodgson papers in the Social Anthropology library at Cambridge, in which there is apparently some material on Newari games. ECS Nepal has an article on Nepali Street Games that looks useful. A Lonely Planet guide to Nepal has a paragraph on bhag chal and also mentions a game called carom. A likely picture of carom is at Visual Geography in the first picture of the gallery. The third and fourth pictures show an unknown board game not mentioned in our article. A pamphlet on bhag chal claims that there are secondary references in the form of (1) Murray, H. J. R. A History of Board-Games Other than Chess, p. 112. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1952, and (2) Parlett, D. The Oxford History of Board Games, p. 194. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1999. For traditional games handed down orally, notability is a tough proposition. Like Hobit, I'd be willing to bend the rules for notability in this case. I don't think we need notability, but we need verifiability to at least get the facts straight. I think we can get there for bhag chal, but I am not sure about the others. --Mark viking (talk) 05:06, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - maybe a merge and redirect to Newa people? There are already sections on there for dance, music, art, etc. Mabalu (talk) 11:50, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and there's already a section on it there - which is basically just a link to this page, so room for a condensed version of the current page? Seems like a suitable solution. Mabalu (talk) 11:52, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Writing quality poor; I support Mabalu's suggestion. Karrattul (talk) 17:25, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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