Wikipedia:Meetup/Wellington/Meetup 3 July 2021

Wellington Meetup 3 July 2021

Date: Saturday 3 July 2021
Time: 10:00 am to midday
Location: Under COVID Alert Level 1: He Matapihi Molesworth Library at National Library, corner Molesworth and Aitken Streets, Wellington
Come to the main entrance of the National Library on Molesworth Street.
Location: Under COVID Alert Level 2: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WellingtonWikimediaMeetup
Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers).
Bring (if meeting under Alert Level 1): a laptop if you have one. There are publicly available computers if you don't have a laptop.

Venue

Under Alert Level 1 the group meet at the He Matapihi Molesworth Library within the National Library. This is a Wellington City Council pop up public library. It was formerly The National Library net.work space. Drinks are permitted in the library.

Under Alert Level 2 or higher the group meet via video conference call.

Meetup Code of Conduct and Anonymity when Meeting Via Video Conference

All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Draft Universal Code of Conduct for the Wikimedia Movement.

The video conferencing meetup is a replacement for the in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.

Some members of the group have been the _target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.

If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:

Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.

If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link in the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.

If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.

If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.

If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.

If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.

Future Meetups

This is a monthly event occurring every four weeks, but double check the Wikipedia:Wellington Meetup page to confirm.

Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.

Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.

People

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Attending

Einebillion (talk)
Quilt Phase (talk)
Ambrosia10 (talk) - Although I may possibly be a little late
Gertrude206 (talk) 20:15, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Pakoire (talk) - leaving at 11.30am
David Nind (talk) - will be a little late
Noracrentiss (talk) 22:15, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Marshelec (talk) 20:40, 3 July 2021 (UTC) - leaving at 11:30am[reply]

Unable to come

Agenda and Notes from Meeting

1. Introduction to meet up by organisers (if there are any newbies joining us)

2. Progress on Action Points

Auckland WikiCon update

WikiCon programme is confirmed. Registrations are at 23 people. 11 are newbies. Please keep promoting the page Wikipedia:WikiCon Aotearoa/Auckland 2021.

Update on progress with Performing Arts Project

Next editathon on the Saturday the 10th July 2021 and will be in Dunedin and the dashboard can be found here.

See this update was given on the 20th of July

3. Further discussion on choosing a page to get to Featured Article status. 30 min

Proposed page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington_College_of_Education Pakoire (talk)
Proposed page: Kate Edger. A new book about her was published in 2021. Gertrude206 (talk)

Resources: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G2hQo4JvyvRisWhoizbXNg2f-O4mulpH3f79eg4whi8/edit?usp=sharing

Proposed page: Kererū

Group decided on the Kererū page. Group decided to work on the article and get it to Good Article status before we put it forward for Featured Article status. General discussion on the standards for a Good Article. WP:GA

Group decided what they would work on to improve the article.

Gertrude206 will look at citations and for anything in the archaeological record.

Ambrosia10 will also look at the citations, improving the metadata and ensuring that these are linked to appropriate urls, archived documents or wikidata items. - Done

Marshelec has already been adding additional content and will continue to work on information on population distribution and endangered status. Will also approach the Kereru Discovery Project to release images under open licensing.

Pakoire will review the lead paragraphs

Ambrosia10 will message Giantflightlessbirds to inform that we’re working on this page to see if any help can be given - Done

Einebillion to review images and copyright status and develop understanding of image crediting best practice.

Noracrentiss will copy edit.

4. Round table for participants to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated - You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want

Gertrude206 has completed the article on Rodger Fox. Contacted performer and he has uploaded images of himself to Wikimedia Commons. There is some concern that copyright sections haven't been completed correctly. Has also been improving a number of articles for NZ composers and NZ music.

Quilt Phase has been busy on Mix n Match with a focus on a preliminary match review for NZ OnScreen Person ID. The unmatched section is now 47% of dataset. Might be useful for identifying NZ performing arts identities that need a Wikidata article.

Marshelec is considering helping another editor get their article to Good Article status. It looks like it might be a lot of work however even though it’s in the area of subject expertise Marshelec holds. Has also been working on an article about a NZ private scenic reserve that is also a geological park. The article has had a difficult history and Marshelec has completed a significant re-write and improved it. Wairere Boulders

Pakoire Other than the Performing Arts Project update has been working on preparations for edit-a-thons including creating stubs for people to work on. Ambrosia10 noted that the easiest stubs to set up in order of ease are dead people, then organisations, then living people. Living people need at least 4 different reputable citations in order to avoid a speedy delete situation.

General discussion around the group about experiences with speedy deletion and the impact on editor morale. General discussion on bias against articles about women. Group discussed Women in Red and how the Women in Red citation of double brace WIR double brace in the talk page of a new article helps as this allows a bot to identify an notify other editors that speedy delete tagging might be applied and allows an opportunity for these editors to comment on the process. Group talked about the latest article on inequality and Wikipedia: Tripodi, Francesca. “Ms. Categorized: Gender, Notability, and Inequality on Wikipedia.” New Media & Society, (June 2021). https://doi.org/10.1177/14614448211023772 and a number of editors expressed how it made them feel depressed. A number of other editors were encouraging and mentioned examples of the additional labour that resulted in the outcomes that shouldn’t have been debated in the first place.

David Nind showed the group the Template:Article templates page. No one else had seen this page and everyone was enthusiastic about how helpful it was especially for newbie editors. David Nind has been working on Wikisource tidying up a book from the West Coast and tidying up the OCR and proofing and validating. The Wikisource book Emerald Hours in New Zealand 1909 also has some very nice early New Zealand photos Emerald Hours in New Zealand (1906)

Noracrentiss had the experience of an article being nominated for deletion. Received great support from Schwede66 and Gertrude206 and learnt from the experience. Is also hoping to have recruited another experienced editor to join the meetup

Einebillion All Wikipedia time has been spent working on preparing for the Auckland WikiCon.

Ambrosia10 has been working on a presentation for the Auckland WikiCon. Marshelec and Einebillion have offered to review the presentation when complete. Ambrosia10 has been delivering Wikipedia live editing via Facebook. Has also been working on Miix n match - the Biodiversity Heritage Library Creator ID and has reached the 13,000th manual link! Lastly has also been working on the Alexander Turnbull Library Mix n Match Turnbull 1 & 2 sets to help identify performing arts people for the performing arts project.

Group had general discussion on Conflict of Interest as this was a concern for the Performing Artists Editathon. One of the group recommended viewing an NDF video which covers COI in writing articles on NZ artists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b8X2SQO1UA

This is the article Sally Rodwell where I have stated a conflict of interest in the talk page - there is a 'connected editor' template you will notice as well as the statement. Pakoire (talk)

5. Review of questions raised during round table

Creating new articles for new editors:
- Templates for common article types
- Have some good examples of exiting items

6. Wiki News - add any news from the wider Wiki movement the group may be unaware of

7. Demonstration of a tool

Quilt Phase (talk) demonstrated the Commons image #croptool. This can be enabled on the gadgets page under your Commons user account preferences.

Tip: use lossless for the image quality for your crop - this results in better resolution for the resulting image

8. Get on with problem solving, editing, and chatting

Outcomes

Next meeting and Meetup timetables

31 July , same time, same place