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- Suspected sockpuppeteer
Haham hanuka (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Suspected sockpuppets
TRFA (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
82.166.207.249 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Report submission by
gidonb 00:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Evidence
The banned User:Haham hanuka seems to push his pov and linkspam (pay-per-view pornosites) [1], as well as to insert his halfbaked templates [2], personal attacks and copyrighted pictures [3] [4] [5] again, this time as User:TRFA. Concentrations are as usual: Nazis (notably Adolf Hitler [6]), Porn, Yigal Amir [7], Israeli tv, and discrediting of LGBT people [8] and organizations (perceived to be) at the left side of the political spectrum [9] [10]. English is as bad as before (although that of course is allowed; just another indication), edit summaries such as 'rv vandal' [11] [12] [13] are also exactly the same. Proper use comments on his talk page page are also removed, often as "vandalism" [14] [15] [16], making mockery out of our policies and the work of our users and making it hard to see that we are dealing with a serial vandalizer of articles. All these and more are precisely the edit methods and style of Haham hanuka. With his disrespect for policies, facts, pov, copyright and others, this determined edit warrior creates huge stress at multiple sections of Wikipedia and forces our better editors to leave.
Sorry it took me a long while to detect: I moved on to other articles and problem areas after this took up to much of my time and I was confused for being a side in a conflict. The problems with Haham, however, only got worse with no one to do the endless work he created so he was completely banned without my knowledge. I now happen to run into him again. I appreciate the verifying of the ban evasion and the banning of this sockpuppet who already causes a lot of damage to the encyclopedia. gidonb 00:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- Asked for diffs and specifics from submitter. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Hello Rlevse. I have added just a few references. The examples for each instance are too numerous to count. If you want me to draw the attention of a few of the many administrators who had there hands full with Haham hanuka in the past, let me know. Also let me know of any more points you want me to reference or better reference. Note that I usually just edit or scan for new vandalism and hoaxes. I edit Wikipedia since 2003. Thank you for your interest. gidonb 12:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This shows a lot of inappropriate behavior and warnings, much of it from earlier this year, yet he was never blocked. Why so? Also these diffs show his behavior, they don't show how is the same as Haham hanuka. You're right, you may want to ask an admin more familiar with these users to look at it. That would be better here, I think. — Rlevse • Talk • 13:25, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Will do. Haham's blocks under his new identity are just a matter of time. He broke 3RR but the npov defending party may not have filed (see User talk:The pink panther#habitual gutting of woman by User:TRFA) and he deluted the abusive context of his edits by removing the more serious warnings. But this is not about a single behavior. Haham hanuka was indefinitely banned [17] (also at his native he.wiki) for stressing the patience of our community far beyond what we are willing to suffer. Regards, gidonb 13:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Checkuser won't be helpful here, of course, since Haham has been gone since last January. But given that Haham was so obviously identifiable, it shouldn't be hard to make a little table of a half dozen Haham diffs compared to a half dozen TRFA diffs to show how they're the same person. The IP address also isn't helpful; it's a dynamic IP in Israel (and we already know both HH and TRFA are from there.) --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 14:41, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Looking at the contributionlist it looks very much in HH style and the seemless history - last edit as HH 20/01/07 - first edit as T 22/01/07 makes a very compelling case. Agathoclea 18:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Conclusions
- That'll do it. I'm blocking as a sock of Haham. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:12, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]