Wikipedia talk:Graphics Lab
Graphics LabThe Graphics Lab is a project to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. Requests for image improvements can be added to the workshop pages: Illustrations, Photographs and Maps. For questions or suggestions one can use the talk pages: Talk:Graphics Lab, Talk:Illustrations, Talk:Photographs and Talk:Maps.
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Responsibility for replacing images in articles?
editHello everyone. I vectorised 
and 
, and they now exist as SVG versions in 
and 
. I specifically asked for the person requesting conversion to replace the images in the appropriate articles. However, this didn't happen, the request was just archived without further action. This left me with the situation that I did work to improve Wikipedia, but it didn't actually improve Wikipedia; all articles still had the old PNG files. Not good. So I just spent the last hour or so going through dozens of Wikipedias and manually replacing these. But even after this extemely tedious work, File:Flag of Vladimir.png is still in use in over 200 articles, and File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Vladimir_(Vladimir_oblast).png in about 20 articles. And then, while doing the replacement, I found two more PNG files, 
and 
(yes these are different files, with basically identical content), which together are in use in another 200 or so articles.
I am really exhausted (I am not a WP:GNOME!) and I can't continue. I am writing not because I want help, but because I am looking for a general solution to this problem. Who is responsible for replacing inferior images after the Graphics Lab created a superior version? The requester? The artist? Noone? This lack of a proper workflow really frustrates me and already does lessen my willingness to work on the Graphics Lab. Is there a solution? I am most certainly not the first in this situation. Do people just not care? --Lommes (talk) 14:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- Colleague, hello! Unfortunately I couldn't provide the template {{resolved}} as the bot archived the request very quickly. The images have only replaced those that were added to the Wikidata service under a special article identifier. Where PNG was left locally, it is really, very long and tedious to replace it. I didn’t find a quick solution to this nuance either, and I don’t think it’s worth fooling around and manually changing pictures everywhere. Here I also want to thank you for your responsiveness and acceptable vector images, since the archive is not recommended to be edited. These files are not vectorized
and were considered at a different historical stage. They should not be associated with 
and accordingly with 
. – ArtSmir (talk) 18:56, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, ArtSmir, you write "I don’t think it’s worth fooling around and manually changing pictures everywhere". That is a legitimate opinion, but if this is the consensus, I don't think its worth (for me) creating SVG replacements in the first place. I hate doing a bad or incomplete job, then i much prefer not doing it. --Lommes (talk) 14:42, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
Done. completed manually ArtSmir (talk) 01:45, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hey, ArtSmir, you write "I don’t think it’s worth fooling around and manually changing pictures everywhere". That is a legitimate opinion, but if this is the consensus, I don't think its worth (for me) creating SVG replacements in the first place. I hate doing a bad or incomplete job, then i much prefer not doing it. --Lommes (talk) 14:42, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
References
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:GlobalUsage&offset=Flag_of_Vladimir.png%7Cnowiki%7C1907067&limit=500&_target=Flag+of+Vladimir.png
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:GlobalUsage&limit=50&from=Coat%20of%20Arms%20of%20Vladimir%20(Vladimir%20oblast).png%7Cplwiki%7C2695191&_target=Coat%20of%20Arms%20of%20Vladimir%20(Vladimir%20oblast).png
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:GlobalUsage&limit=50&from=Vladimir_COA_%281781%29.png%7Cruwiki%7C7047736&_target=Vladimir+COA+%281781%29.png
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalUsage/Vladimir_COA_(1781)_(larger).png
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Gallup data
editHello! I'm here as part of my work for Beutler Ink, on behalf of our client, Gallup, Inc. Gallup is interested in making its polling data more accessible to Wikipedia for editors to use. There are quite a few graphics in Category:Gallup polls at Wikimedia Commons already, a few of which are images the company recently donated. My question for editors here is: are these the sorts of graphics that editors are looking for, and is there a better way for Gallup to make its data available? I'm asking here because I thought graphists might find the question interesting, and have insights into what would be most helpful.
Gallup isn't looking to place graphics in any specific articles, but they have a lot of polling data and are hoping to collaborate with the Wikipedia community. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 16:37, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @BINK Robin, it might also be worth putting this on Wp:WPE&R, but my thoughts:
- It's great that Gallup are seeking to contribute data. I'm not sure how you're proposing such data is shared. If you want it to solely be accessible to Wikimedia editors, then allowing it to be accessed from The Wikipedia Library is the best option. However, this requires a portal or system for extracting such data to already exist.
- Election data is already used a lot: a nice example are the charts on Opinion polling for the next United Kingdom general election with Ralbegen's lovely charts (though it seems Gallup doesn't do a lot of UK polling). The problem is that, if some of this data is not already publicly available, it may fail WP:V. It would be great if you had some further details on what Gallup is considering. – Isochrone (T) 21:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Isochrone These are great questions. Gallup's data is all publicly available on their website, so I don't think the Library would be needed. It's more a question of how to make that data easiest for interested editors to find and use. I've been helping them with the process of donating some graphics, but I wonder if it would be more helpful to batch upload some bulk data sets somewhere? BINK Robin (talk) 16:25, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
GIF rendering speed sample
editFile:Map Hudson County New Jersey municipalities.gif was created by a now-banned user for file size and speed tests in comparison with File:Hudson County, New Jersey Municipalities.png. There is a comparison report from 2007. Is there any possible further use for this file? I don't see anyone but the creator showing interested in GIF vs. PNG rendering speed and am tempted to propose deletion. However, I thought it might be worth an update on the speed tests, and I lack the technical knowledge to test that properly. Daask (talk) 05:41, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Image map for three pillars of sustainability
editThere's a broken image map at Template:Three pillars of sustainability from Environmental economics § Relationship to other fields using File:Sustainable development.svg. Perhaps the image was broken when the SVG was resized in 2019. Could someone fix the polygons for the clickable areas to match the image? If it worked, it would probably be suitable for use in all 143 articles which use this image. Daask (talk) 19:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
