Talk:birth

Etymology discussed on RFV

The etymology of the English word was discussed on RFV. — Beobach 23:17, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

by birth, at birth

do by birth and at birth deserve an entry? --Backinstadiums (talk) 11:40, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes, Backinstadiums. I had to look it up at google. Thank you. sarri.greek (talk) 23:00, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

"At birth" at least seems totally SoP to me. What do you think it means that isn't clear from "at" and "birth"? Equinox ◑ 00:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

@Equinox, I was looking for the correct expression for law and diseases. Diseases at birth or by birth. And citizenships by birth, by descent etc. As a non-anglophone i often feel uneasy about expressions, especially prepositions. I am not sure of what SoP is: a sum, a sequence of words. But thank you for your interest. sarri.greek (talk) 00:50, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

@Sarri.greek By SoP or "sum of parts" we mean something that can be understood from the individual words, that doesn't require special explanation. So: "that takes the cake!" is not SoP, because it's a special meaning unrelated to cakes; but "that's a purple bag!" is SoP because it's just a bag that is purple. Since I wrote the above, I have realised that "at birth" usually suggests we are talking about the child and not the mother, but I'm still not too convinced: naturally any discussion of birth defects will be about the child. Equinox ◑ 02:51, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Etymology incorrectly links to page for "bear" the animal

According to etymonline bear "to carry" and bear the animal have different roots

That linked page has all kinds of bear. Just scroll down. Equinox ◑ 13:44, 8 January 2020 (UTC)