Talk:what's up with

RFD discussion: November 2020–February 2021

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what's up with

= what's up + with

Previously discussed at Wiktionary:Tea_room/2020/October#what's_up_with.

Propose that we direct readers to what's up, and create examples with "with" there.

Strictly speaking, some, perhaps all, of the existing senses at what's up are also SoP, being explicable as "what + is + up", but I am suggesting that we keep what's up -- though see also Wiktionary:Tea_room/2020/November#what's_up. Mihia (talk) 21:48, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

In addition, as DCD has pointed out at the linked discussion, "what's up with" is not actually a grammatical constituent, so it is questionable whether it should be a lemma. Mihia (talk) 19:48, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Mihia Does grammatical constituent have some specialized meaning in linguistics? If it fits grammatically into a sentence, then it's a constituent of that sentence, no? DCD says that it's not a phrase -- I remember there's been some controversy about what that word means. Personally I've used it as a "misc" category for any multi-word lemma that I can't fit anywhere else.__Gamren (talk) 16:46, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

By "grammatical constituent" I meant a phrase that can be assigned a part of speech, or that expresses a complete thought. "What's up with" is by contrast a fragment. Mihia (talk) 18:18, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

• Keep -- Dentonius 08:21, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Keep. Also keep what's with and what's the deal with.__Gamren (talk) 15:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

And what's the matter with and what's the difference between and what's the use of?  --Lambiam 15:33, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Kept Purplebackpack89 14:52, 12 February 2021 (UTC)