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::I natively speak English. How do you explain that in the audio on Google Translate it sounds like a "v" sound? [[User:Polar Apposite|Polar Apposite]] ([[User talk:Polar Apposite|talk]]) 00:58, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Huh? I'm saying the file also sounds like [v]. You either have a very poor audio output setup or are perceiving the frication to be noise (like breathing into the microphone) when it is essential part of the articulation. [[User:Nardog|Nardog]] ([[User talk:Nardog|talk]]) 03:25, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
::::I have to agree with Nardog here. The pronunciation is perfectly representative of Istanbul Turkish and is the regular [v] sound in Turkish.
::::I don't speak Turkish, so I am only guessing at the sound. In case I wasn't clear, what I meant was that on Google Translate it sounds like a "v" sound to me, while on the Wikipedia file it sounds like an "l" sound, and if the fault was with me, wouldn't they still sound the same, i.e. both "l" or both "v". [[User:Polar Apposite|Polar Apposite]] ([[User talk:Polar Apposite|talk]]) 23:07, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
::::Or maybe Google Translate is saying it wrong? I had neglected that possibility? What do you think? Have you listened to it saying that Turkish word (c-cedilla then "ivi") [[User:Polar Apposite|Polar Apposite]] ([[User talk:Polar Apposite|talk]]) 23:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
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