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I am currently in a discussion about footnotes in cave infoboxes [[Template talk:Infobox cave#location_ref|here]]. The understanding seems to be that footnotes are not mandatory for the infobox, especially when those footnotes are supplied in the main body of the article. The confusion with this policy is that the coordinate field in the infobox is specifically designed for coordinate display. Wouldn't it necessarily follow, that since this is where editors are wanting to display coordinates and we wish viewers to look for them, that this is also where you would cite them? It seems excessive and redundant to list coordinates all over the page, when we have an infobox specifically designed for quick fact checking, and then add footnotes to the redundancies instead. Also, editing may confuse editors who see an unsourced coordinate in an infobox, when the actual reference is residing somewhere in the main body of the article. All in all, it seems counterintuitive for cave infoboxes with coordinate fields to list the footnotes anywhere else but there. Having it in the infobox makes it much easier for readers, consistent per [[WP:Citing sources]], and readily apparent to editors where the source for every cave article coordinate resides in the event it has or needs one. [[User:Leitmotiv|Leitmotiv]] ([[User talk:Leitmotiv|talk]]) 05:17, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
:Additionally, any reference hidden in the raw wiki code in an external link (such as with [[Skeleton Cave]]) won't be listed in the reflist. Not only does it intuitively make sense to put the reference with the infobox in this particular instance, but it also allows for the reference to be listed in the reflist as well. [[User:Leitmotiv|Leitmotiv]] ([[User talk:Leitmotiv|talk]]) 18:56, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
== Elora Herrington ==
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Elora AB Herrington is an American R&B Singer-Songwriter. Born Elora Ann Bauknight (november 3rd 1952) to Mack Miller Bauknight and Ocie Mae Kelly in Augusta Ga. The 4th child of 8 Siblings. Attended Peter H Craig Elementary. Sand Bar Ferry Junior High and Lucy Craft Laney High School.In Junior High she played in the band starting out on a E flat horn and ended up in High School marching and concert band playing French Horn. Attain several awards for writing music and many awards for being mannerable. One of her trademark is always willing to help people when needed. Elora AB Herrington is ceo Creastland Boy Records Indie Label in South Carolina. Creastland Boys, Flow,Stimulus4, Honey Bones1, Classy Ma'dams are groups under the label. In 1998, Herrington signed with RC Production and company in Chattanooga TN . Writing and recording her own songs,Performing in night clubs, Promoting other Rappers, were very exciting, she said. "Plus I were very green then, learning all I could from my Music Instructor". Ralph Chislom of Chatt Town.
Today the Artist said she is very up on things in the music Industry. She recognized Major Labels are not as they used to be. Promotion distributions and signing artist are a bit slower than Michael Jackson's time. Even slower since P Diddy, Jay Z,Lil Wayne. Due to bootlegging,downloading,or even on the street buying 50 tracks for one dollar, makes music very easy to get now. Herrington says Indie Labels can do almost as much as Major and Mini Labels today if you're not looking to get rich. Digital music, Videos, promotional campaign on the street, tours, even getting your record in small chain of stores and perhaps larger chains if you got a good record. If you got a good Distributor, a lot of things can work. Radio probably the hardest area. Major labels got Indie locked on that area. Indie even can get their video on music channels. If you have a good budget to start and keep a Label going it can be a success as well.There are so many wonderful talented artists out here today.She explained, if she was in the position to help them, she would gladly do so. You have to beware of trickery from the GREEDY and THIEVRY Companies today. There are so many music websites saying they will help you get a record deal, but the end results always end up in MONEY. In which 90% of it all is a a bunch of crap or LIES. Anytime a company in a hurry to call you back, 9 out of 10 its about money! She laughed and said; Once a popular Universal artist (not calling names) commented on one of her video sites, "are you looking for a record deal?" When she did her research, the first thing she spotted on their site was to sign up, send a demo with x-amount of dollars.She said to herself,you would think since he's already out there, he could be making his money performing, like all the other artists. He trying to make his the easy way.(Do the math, when u add up x-amount of people doing that, what that tells you?} Herrington debuted 3 albums. Erotic Tales , ET Horny Love and The Scent Of A Man. Tracks from Erotic Tales 2005 album were produced by Ralph Chislom.All her lyrics are erotic, enticing, and arousing like (rappers) Lil Kim, Khia, Rasheeda, Jacki-O and a few others. "The Scent Of A Man" 2009 album produced by B. Hood HitCity Music ATL were stern from what Joe (r&b) singer said "LETS MAKE A LOVE SCENE, STEAMY AND BLUE, EROTIC MEMORIES -FOR AN AUDIENCES OF TWO" and that is just what she did to all 10 tracks. R Kelly" (R&B) said "IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE READY" so go ahead and enjoy it! Popular tracks from that album "U Feel So Good Inside", Sexualicious Mr Sexy, "Silence This Kitty", and "I need Love".
Herrington made up her first little song age 8(singing) "look look look, i am big too" and dancing with it,she say, she thought she were doing something! She said she like doing backup singing the most. She added: "I am very shy, but I try hard hiding it. People seems to take advantage of me when they spot it. I don't know why but it happens everytime. I can also be flirty, but I came along way working on trying not to do that". Her mother taught her to sing as well as being on church easter programs yearly. The mother stayed sick in and out of the hospital every since she were 9 dying from cancer. She stayed more in the hospital than out. Her father raised her and 6 sibling and a neice, when their mother died at age 46 in 1966 she were age 14. In 2002, she lost her father age 84 natural causes,2 weeks later her neice died from cancer at age 21 and 2 1/2 weeks later her youngest brother age 44 got shot and killed by a policeman at his resident. Like all others, it was a traumatized time, but it takes time to recover. Father was strict, I thought at that time then, but I did appreciate it later. In 2011,Herrington sponsored an event working with TC Thompkins former VP Sony Records in a talent search with her daughter in Aiken SC: "The Chance Of Lifetime Talent Search" that were started by Ismael Records and Blendzville Globals of Va. Today Herrington is working on directing another video as well as appearing in a new upcoming film in 2013. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Elora Herrington|Elora Herrington]] ([[User talk:Elora Herrington|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Elora Herrington|contribs]]) 18:03, 6 September 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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