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Line 718: ::Right, Kretzschmar is using {{angbr IPA\|ɚ}} as equivalent to {{angbr IPA\|əɹ}}, which is not standard IPA usage so we should avoid it anyway. And the realization with [əɹ] isn't even the case when it comes to START, NORTH/FORCE, and prevocalic NEAR/SQUARE/CURE (as he notes on p. 266). How about writing ditching {{angbr IPA\|ɚ}} and splitting the rows about NEAR/SQUARE/CURE to illustrate the difference between e.g. [nɪəɹ] and [nɪɹɪŋ]? [[User:Nardog\|Nardog]] ([[User talk:Nardog\|talk]]) 23:51, 8 August 2020 (UTC) :::Yeah, I'll accept that. [[User:Wolfdog\|Wolfdog]] ([[User talk:Wolfdog#top\|talk]]) 12:14, 9 August 2020 (UTC) ::::Done. To be clear, I never said phonetic symbols should be taken from sources verbatim. If a source is using an IPA symbol in a non-standard way or using an obsolete symbol, accommodations must be made because not doing so would be to misrepresent the source. The problem I had with the /æ/ raising template in particular is that it was, or seemed to be, using {{angbr IPA\|æ}} and {{angbr IPA\|ɛə}} as shorthands for lax and tense, not that the symbols weren't in the text of the sources. [[User:Nardog\|Nardog]] ([[User talk:Nardog\|talk]]) 04:23, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

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