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Thanks

Thanks for taking care of this; for the past 2-3 days I'd been meaning to, but the time just slipped away. Appreciated, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:22, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome, User:DoubleGrazing - It turns out to have been a much clearer and more blatant case of sockpuppetry than most, and the AFD has been closed as G5, sockpuppetry. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:32, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

My problem was that while it looked ducky, I couldn't find the smoking gun, so dropped it. I'm glad you saw what I didn't. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:34, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

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DRN discussion close

Apologies for bothering you, am I still allowed to submit a new dispute here? Sorry I forgot about pinging the other uses. I understand the talk page is veeery long - it was productive for about two weeks but then we hit an impasse. The 3O statement is shorter but ultimately we didn't get anywhere. Do you think I could still try with a shorter statement or should I attempt some other place? It's mostly because I think at this point only third parties could help. Thank you. FelipeFritschF (talk) 06:48, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

User:FelipeFritschF - You are allowed to submit a new statement, with proper notice. I think that you and the other users would be better off actually to take a break from the topic for a few days, but that is only my opinion. I think that you would be best off to try discussing the topic on the article talk page in short paragraphs, and see where that gets. If you come right back to DRN and are still as verbose as you have been, the moderator will spend the first week just collapsing your posts and telling you that they are too long, didn't read. So try being concise. It might help without the need for a moderator. Then come back if necessary. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:29, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Yes, we've been discussing it for a long while but it's been unproductive, that's why I wanted outside input and/or editing. FelipeFritschF (talk) 20:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

I wasn't able to use Talk:Kaworu Nagisa/DRN and noticed you requested a deletion. It'll probably take me a few more days due to lack of time but I'll still go ahead for the RfC eventually. Thanks again. FelipeFritschF (talk) 02:54, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I have an OK draft there for the RfC there. Take your time if need to, thanks again. FelipeFritschF (talk) 01:49, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your fast response. I'll take a look. FelipeFritschF (talk) 02:30, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

I still haven't had the time to reformulate it again but I still intend to go for that RfC. Just to show I haven't forgotten, I suppose, but as far as I can tell there's no time limit proper. I assume I'll still have to go though you when I'm able to make another draft. Thanks for your attention anyway and sorry to bother you. FelipeFritschF (talk) 04:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

I have been very busy but I noticed this section was about to be archived. Moved it back down as I still intend to start a RfC at least before the new film releases internationally which will mean a lot of views an a lot of editing in all related articles. Sorry for the incovenience. FelipeFritschF (talk) 03:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

I understand I'm coming 3 months late and I apologize, but later this week the final film is releasing internationally on Friday and thanks to its commercial success I can expect massive editing and vandalism, having already seen lots of it here and on the wikia/fan wikis even after a Japanese-only release - this has greatly taken my time these months, besides getting the article for the film itself ready. You had previously mentioned the possibility of partially blocking the editor, and I fear after the many past unproductive discussions this might be inevitable, just like my idea for an RfC might be unproductive due to the imminent chaos. As such, I'd like to ask if that is still a possibility. Thank you. FelipeFritschF (talk) 04:14, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

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Draftifying articles to User space

Hello, Robert,

I look at CSD categories and User:JJMC89 bot/report/Draftifications/daily and I wanted to ask you why you move articles into your own personal User space rather than Draft space. I've never seen an editor do that before unless they were taking responsibility for revising an article and I don't know whether you have asked the page creators about this. I don't see why you wouldn't use Draft space for developing articles that you didn't create. For example, you moved Izuku Midoriya to User:Robert McClenon/Izuku Midoriya and then had that page deleted, erasing the page history. I don't see any other editors doing this so I hope you can offer an explanation. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Liz - Yes. I will explain as soon as I am at my desk and my computer. McClenon mobile (talk) 02:20, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Liz - Yes. Those are not articles, but redirects. They are redirects to another article, when a draft was submitted that was ready for acceptance, except that the redirect was blocking the move, so that a round-robin move is needed to accept the draft. I then accepted the draft, which moves it into article space, and the redirect that was now in user space could be G6d. I could instead move the redirect into draft space, and would have to disambiguate it somehow, since there already is a draft. In either case, the redirect will then be G6d. The usual approach to a redirect and a draft that needs to be done if the reviewer is not a page mover is to tag the redirect for Move. This approach has two minor disadvantages. First, obviously, one waits a few hours for an admin to delete the redirect. Second, more subtly, the admin who deletes the redirect then completes the move of the draft into article space. This would seem to be what the reviewer was requesting. So why is it a slight complication? Because often the admin does not have the AFC script, and just does a Move, and maybe some cleanup. In fact, the AFC script does a considerable amount of housekeeping, and having an admin move the page into article space seems to be the right thing, and is almost the right thing, and there is still cleanup by the reviewer. So that is why I do a round-robin move rather than just tagging the redirect for CSD. If you would prefer that I move the redirect to draft space with a special tag, I can do that instead. I said that I would explain. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Hyojung

I would appreciate any feedback you have on this? Draft:Hyojung --Btspurplegalaxy (talk) 03:29, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Help: Draft:Scott Ferguson (musician

Hi Robert McClenon, Thank you for helping to disambiguate Draft:Scott Ferguson (musician), however can you help me by moving it to Draft:Scott Ferguson (record producer) instead?? It was my novice page creation mistake and that was my original intention. That title is most accurate, due to the nature of the content. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by DTLA357 (talk • contribs) DTLA357 (talk) 11:00, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft : Yalgaar

Hi i saw your comments on my Draft Yalgaar u said that topic is not notable please review this again there are enough indipendent, reliable sources like The Indian Express, Republic world, The Economic Times and many more sources talking about this thanku. Ramesh012 (talk) 07:19, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

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Dirichlet Character

Thanks.

I didn't realize I was attempting to create a new page. My intention was to have someone review my draft, mainly for Wiki standards (I'm out of practice editing) rather than for content (this submission is, IMO, a big improvement over the existing article) and then replace the existing article. A number of years ago, posting as Virginia-American, I replaced several math articles, including Quadratic Reciprocity and Arithmetic Function.

I put a note in the talk page for Dirichlet character with a link to the draft article. Curious what the editors following that article have to say.

James in dc (talk) 04:28, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

User:James in dc - Why were you using a different account than you are now using? Robert McClenon (talk) 13:12, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

User:James in dc - I looked at the sandbox article on Arithmetic function and the main article. It appears that what you did was to add sections to the existing article, and that neither you nor anyone else replaced the article. Replacing articles is not normally done. I also looked at the articles on Quadratic reciprocity in article space and in your sandbox, and I do not see any replacement, but a history of edits. I would suggest that, if there are articles on mathematical topics that should be expanded or replaced, you discuss them with other mathematicians at WikiProject Mathematics. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:31, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks again. I could have sworn I'd replaced those articles; I know I completely re-wrote them.

James in dc (talk) 15:14, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Gerda Arendt - Does this belong to someone else? Robert McClenon (talk) 16:29, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Gerda Arendt - Okay. I figured it out. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:34, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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merging draft with article

Your routine message says: "This appears to be an expanded version of an existing article on C11orf49. Articles for Creation is not used to request that a newer version of an article replace an existing version, even if the newer version is more complete. You may edit the existing article, and you can discuss the edits at the article talk page, Talk:C11orf49." Whatever advice we might want to give the newcomers, the best way I know to preserve the edit history is to accept the draft version under a variant title, and then merge or replace from the draft version, giving the link. Can you see anything wrong with that? DGG ( talk ) 19:59, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

User:DGG - I hadn't thought of accepting a draft under a variant title. That seems like a good idea. The draft and article that you mention seems familiar, but I think it is one that I dealt with a few weeks or months ago, in a different highly technical field than the one that I just replied to with almost the same message. Did you mean to be referring to C11orf49, or to Dirichlet character, or both? I will comment more on your comment shortly. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:18, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

yes, you and others have used that advice before, and I've always meant to ask you. This was just the most recent time I saw it-, and it was months ago you said it--I saw it now in checking imminent G13 deletions. I didn't mean to discuss the article here. DGG ( talk ) 06:07, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Editing news 2021 #2

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When newcomers had the Reply tool and tried to post on a talk page, they were more successful at posting a comment. (Source)

Earlier this year, the Editing team ran a large study of the Reply Tool. The main goal was to find out whether the Reply Tool helped newer editors communicate on wiki. The second goal was to see whether the comments that newer editors made using the tool needed to be reverted more frequently than comments newer editors made with the existing wikitext page editor.

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• Newer editors who had automatic ("default on") access to the Reply tool were more likely to post a comment on a talk page.
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You can turn on "Discussion Tools" in Beta Features now. After you get the Reply tool, you can change your preferences at any time in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.

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00:27, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Detroit Will Breathe

Deny?: That article in mainspace was a copy of the draft that did not preserve history as a move would do. this is a mess made by "experienced" editors not the original editor that asked for the review. —¿philoserf? (talk) 19:21, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Commented here with some detail. I am about to go seek out the correct promotion process and how to fix this mess. Draft talk:Detroit Will Breathe —¿philoserf? (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

FTR: Requested the move fix here: Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests —¿philoserf? (talk) 20:19, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft: 2021 British Grand Prix rebsubmission

I have rebsubmitted my draft article for the 2021 British Grand Prix and done so exactly a month before the race to avoid a topic bsn as you warned me about if it was resubmitted more than a month in advance. Please take a look--Engine V10R (talk) 11:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

AfC Donald Wolf

Firstly thanks for taking the time to look at Draft:Donald Wolf yesterday. Batternut (talk) 12:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Draft talk:Donald Wolf#Notability. Batternut (talk) 12:11, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Nikola Karev DRN

First- sorry for accidently archiving part of your talk page- I self-reverted. I haven't had coffee yet and meant to hit edit. Second- I don't mind moderating the Nikola dispute, I read the talk page in question yesterday, but wasn't able to read the article until this morning (the talk page was.... a lot), but I don't mind handling it if you don't want to- I know you've done a lot of the big contentious ones lately. Nightenbelle (talk) 13:22, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Nightenbelle - Thank you. I hadn't noticed the accidental archiving. Your mention of archiving did cause me to check the history of my talk page, and I see that posts made in April are now being auto-archived by a bot. I had set that up in April to archive posts that are more than two months old, so the auto-archiving is working as coded. So that is good. I don't know what sort of stimulant bots rely on.

If you are willing to handle the Nikola dispute, that is appreciated. As I noted, there are five editors, and so far only two of them have made statements. Any discussion with two or three of them will be useful for setting up an RFC, and at this point I don't expect the other editors to reply, so all that can be done is to set up an RFC. Yes, that is another dispute where some of the editors apparently repeat the same statements too many times. I have found that the best way to handle such a dispute is to tell the editors to start with a concise statement. This often gets a long statement. The next step is to tell the editors again to be concise. After all, if the dispute is resolved by an RFC, the RFC should include one or more concise statements as to what the question is. So if you want to handle that dispute, thanks.

The Sri Lankan Civil War dispute has been archived without action. I think it will come back, and it is now a dispute that the community failed to handle, so it may go to ArbCom. In that case, ArbCom will likely argue over whether the editors should be topic-banned or site-banned, and I do not expect survivors.

I am working on an album notability dispute at Deletion Review. Music disputes, both pop music and classical music, can be very unpleasant. I suppose you recall the dispute over the sexuality of Frederic Chopin, which ended in No Consensus, but one of the editors has been banned. (If they couldn't agree about Chopin, they should have put on a recording of Beethoven or Liszt.)

It seems like summer has made people extra snippy. Yeah I'll work on an RFC with the participating editors- I probably won't start it until later this afternoon or evening, but I'll get it taken care of. Nightenbelle (talk) 14:54, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Nightenbelle - I think it is the stress of the pandemic that has made people difficult, but music disputes are always very unpleasant (and ought not to be so unpleasant, as opposed to disputes due to nationalism, where editors are fighting edit-wars because there is a history of wars). Robert McClenon (talk) 02:53, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Omlet Arcade

Hello, Robert McClenon. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Omlet Arcade".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:14, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Liz - Thank you for using Twinkle when it strikes again. At least this time it didn't say that I could request to save the draft that I don't remember moving from a sandbox to draft space. Did it also notify the creator of the sandbox? Robert McClenon (talk) 22:33, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

New AfC approval, Johnny Swaim copyvio

Johnny Swaim AfC was approved yesterday, almost bereft of citations. I tagged several sections, which brought only a few citations... so I tagged each "fact" with the cn tag, an a few more citations were supplied. Then I noticed the table in the Head coaching section had this statement in lieu of a citation: "Provided by CBB at Sports Reference: View Original Table Generated 6/21/2021." Unfortunately, both those sites have the copyright notice, "All rights reserved."

Is RevDelthe the next step? Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks to Primefac I have been enlightened about WP:NONCREATIVE and the table is restored. I'd still appreciate your take on the AfC approval with so few citations. I'm relatively new at AfC approving roles, but I thought we required better sourcing? or maybe I'm just an old curmudgeon? Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 20:30, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hello Robert, thank you for taking the time to go through a draft I submitted for review, as well as an article I created.

Concerning my draft, it was denied approval on grounds of notability, or a lack thereof. 1) There is significant coverage of the subject, multiple articles about numerous exhibitions and events, interviews.. The sources are secondary, independent of the subject, and reliable. They're some of the most reputable and well-known fashion publications (Vogue, Harper's Baazar, Glass Magazine). I have just uncovered some articles published by BBC and The Guardian that might help.

As a creative professional, Surridge's work has been a substantial part of significant exhibitions including multiple Milan and New York fashion weeks, receiving critical acclaim. He is highly regarded as a designer and one could argue that he's played a major role in what multiple high-end fashion houses have been putting out these past two decades.

I believe he meets the notability standards for a creative individual. What would you advise me to add to the article?

Concerning my article "MISBHV"

The issues brought up were 1) notability and 2) article may be written from a fan's point of view, rather than a neutral point of view.

1) Again, there is significant coverage of the subject, multiple articles. The sources are secondary, independent of the subject, and reliable. They're some of the most reputable and well-known fashion publications (Vogue, Complex, Highsnobiety, WWD, Flaunt Magazine, Love Magazine, DAZED). It is a very well known brand.

2) Yes, I am a fan, but I was unable to find anything in the article that seemed subjective or promotional. "The duo earned its stripes within the fashion scene" might not be formulated the right way, but it was by no means meant to be subjective. Is that what I should change? What in the article isn't neutral?

Once again, I appreciate your time!

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Requesting feedback on Draft:Moghbazar Blast 2021

Hello there @Robert McClenon I have created a draft on this recent event Draft:Moghbazar Blast 2021 mind having a look at it? Thanks Surya^{beej   ⋠talk⋡} 07:45, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

DRV formatting

Hi Robert, hope you are well! I made these minor changes to your extensive DRV contribution, only because the headers were causing some formatting issues. Hope this is OK, let me know if any issues. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 23:12, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Daniel - Okay. I didn't know that subheaders caused a problem in DRV. They don't cause a problem in MFD or AFD, for instance, but MFD and AFD are organized by filename, rather than by day. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:33, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Some basic questions:

I have serviced several Dell Inspiron 3668s used in an industrial environment. This is a really good PC.

In order to give you better advice I would like to know the following:

You say "What games? What streaming videos? Streaming videos are Generation X or Y stuff. I just have a lot of browser windows and a lot of Word documents and Access databases open." This is good. Your computer is at least 10x faster than it needs to be for doing that. It also has a reputation for reliability in an office environment

Questions:

• Microsoft Office or LibreOffice? Latest versions or something older?
  • • I am using Microsoft Office, and it is my intention to use the latest version, because when I am prompted to pick up upgrades, I pick up upgrades.
• Latest version of Windows 10 or something older?
  • • It is my intention to use the latest version of Windows 10. My PC gets restarted at night occasionally.
• What browser?
  • • All of them. I use Firefox for Wikipedia, because it has a feature that if I have a very large number of tabs, they are all standard width, and I have to scroll through them, rather than shrinking them all to fit on the screen. I haven't decided whether I want to use Chrome or Opera to read the news and to browse web sites, and sometimes I use one and sometimes the other. I occasionally use Microsoft Edge. I know that I shouldn't have three of them open at once, because then I run into a problem with memory. As a former computer performance analyst, I know that memory is far more often what constrains performance than CPU speed.
• How are you backing up your data? Are you doing complete system backups or just the data?
  • • I have a 1 TB detachable storage device. I have backed up the entire system, but normally what I do is to back up the data. At this point the detachable storage device has 760 GB in use and 240 GB free, because I have multiple backups of the data on no particular schedule.
• Original hard drive? How close to being full is it?
  • • Yes, original hard drive. 139 GB in use. 778 GB free. After all, I am not storing video on it.
• Is your monitor plugged in to the VGA port or the HDMI port?
• Do all the tests at [ https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/product-support/product/inspiron-3668-desktop/diagnose ] complete without errors? Anything giving you trouble? Flaky DVD or floppy (assuming you use them)?
  • • I haven't tried, but will. I have not had any flakiness with the flash drives.
• Are you able -- or do you have a friend who is able -- to open up a computer case and put in a new video cards or hard drive? Or is there a PC repair shop in town? At the very least someone needs to blow out the dust once in a while.
  • • No as to opening the case or having a friend open the case. Yes, there are multiple repair shops available.
• Are you budget constrained? is $20 too much to pay for an upgrade?
  • • I can manage $20. But for what?
• Are you in a position where having your PC break down would be a disaster or just an inconvenience? If it absolutely has to work, I usually recommend getting a spare (they run around $300 used) and switching between them every couple of months.
  • • I would feel like having it break down was a disaster, except that I would then use my laptop, which I otherwise use for occasional travel and for Zoom.

--Guy Macon (talk) 00:38, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Since you said, in response to someone else, not to ping you, I will not ping you. I am inserting my replies. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:52, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the answers. I want to give you the best advice I can.

I am going to think about this some more, but here are my preliminary thoughts:

• I have a bad feeling about downgrading the video drivers. If the new version is buggy, the older version is likely to be buggy in different ways. I am thinking a video card would be a better solution. One that will do everything you need costs around $16 with free shipping. If we choose wisely (I love pouring over hardware reviews) , the new hardware will have rock-solid video drivers.
• That PC came stock with a writable DVD drive. If your PC has one you could pop in a rewritable disk and save your most important work there. That would give you three backups at a minimum cost. You could even keep a DVD in your car or at work in case the building burns down taking all your backups with it. Or you could do the same with a cheap USB thumb drive.
• The only other issue I can see is that you are depending on a glass disk spinning 7200 revolutions per minute with a head flying a few millionths of an inch from the surface. [1] See Head crash. A solid state drive would be far more reliable, put out less heat, would be silent, and would have no moving parts to wear out. a 500GB drive would cost around $50 new and you could keep your existing mechanical drive (your Dell has a place to mount both) as drive D:. That makes it super easy to move your data to the new C: drive. In this configuration drive D: would not spin up until you needed it, so it should last practically forever. (Same with your external drive; it spends most of the time powered down instead of spinning and wearing out the bearings).

More later. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:56, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Feedback on PC Configuration

This section will be supplied within 24 hours. Robert McClenon (talk) 11:58, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

User:Guy Macon - I will ping you after all. Thank you. The advice that you have given me is useful with regard to a different concern than I had originally written about. I had originally been asking about what was causing DWM.exe to consume several megabytes of memory and slow the system down due to swapping. My questions were what was causing this, and whether it is safe to kill DWM.exe and let it respawn. I was told that one cause of the memory saturation might be bugs in the video driver. The advice that you have given me isn't about that, and your advice seems to be to leave the video drivers alone.

The useful advice that I see is to get a solid-state device installed in my PC, which will be more reliable than the rotating device. I think that I will do that within the next few months. I do have a question about drive letters. If I get the solid-state device, then it becomes the C: drive, and the existing device becomes the D: drive. Is that correct? Does that mean that the DVD drive becomes the E: drive? (Yes, I do have the DVD drive. I have used it as a CD-ROM drive to load software. Will putting in a second disk cause the flash drive to become the F: drive and the external disk to become the G: drive?

Thank you for the analysis. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:14, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Andreas Müller-Pohle feedback

Dear Robert, thank you for adding the templates re the legibility of the lead and the hagiographic language to my machine translation of Andreas Müller-Pohle from the German and French WP articles. In response I've re-written the lead and moderated the 'fan-speak' and unsupported claims. Can you check please if there are other issues. I am working through to add proper referencing and have included a template re the list of exhibitions which require references and sorting into solo and group shows as is a norm on artist bios. I appreciate your attention to detail, Jamesmcardle^(talk) 01:27, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Corporate notability

Hi Robert and thanks for reviewing the article. Could you please be more specific on what changes should be made? Any links on this topic with precise examples. Thank you! Goldstriker (talk) 05:30, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hi Robert! I just resubmitted this draft right here. I was wondering if you could look at it and whether it's all good to go? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmancheno97 (talk • contribs) 21:47, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

About [[History merged to 2021 Ginetta Junior Championship]]

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give [[:History merged to 2021 Ginetta Junior Championship]] a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Draft:2021 Ginetta Junior Championship. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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User:JJMC89 - Now I am confused. Twinkle strikes again in that it gives a useless warning message when I didn't do anything, or at least nothing applicable. Can you tell me what I did that caused me to get this weird message:? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:20, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Nothing you did. I mistakenly chose the wrong G6 in the menu. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:33, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Emma Heesters

Hey Robert McClenon please help me to improve it, thanks a lot for giving me advices.--Abhilasha Will (talk) 15:49, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Deprodding of Draft:Rok A Fela

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Women in Red

Hi there, Robert, and congratulations on commemorating your first edit day, way back in 2005. As you spend much of your editing time on reviewing articles, you might be interested to know that Women in Red is currently trying to help reduce the AfC backlog and encourage editors who have failed to write successful articles about women to seek our assistance. It would be useful if you could draw our attention to any borderline cases which you think we might be able to help with. Keep up the good work. I realize how important it is to review articles from new contributors but we should try to encourage them to maintain their interest. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 14:36, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Javier Iturriaga del Campo

I have considerably improved Gral. Iturriaga's article with history and sources. Please, review it.

Greetings. --Carigval.97 (talk) 19:08, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

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AfC question - histmerge?

I've reviewed Draft:Rogue Planet (Star Trek: Enterprise) and am happy to accept it (it's substantially changed since the AfD and evidences notability) but I gather from your comment there that the page histories of the redirect and the draft need merging. What's the technical procedure to do that? Should I mark the draft as accepted in any way? Should I tag the redirect with {{History merge}} and an explanation? — Bilorv (talk) 00:18, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

User:Bilorv - In looking it over, a history merge is not required, but an annoying complicated round-robin move is needed. Do you want me to accept it while moving the former redirect to draft space? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:23, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Yep, if you could that'd be great. — Bilorv (talk) 10:46, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

User:Bilorv - Done. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:34, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Brilliant, cheers. — Bilorv (talk) 08:48, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

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Deletion of the Devel Sixteen Article

Please , If the article does not provide suitable citations, edit the article and provide with more info. It will benifit all the car lovers. The citations mentioned were the only citations that I could find on the net. Please take my kind request to consideration. Wabbittttt (talk) 15:45, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Rogue Planet

Thank you for moving Rogue Planet out of draft space. Thank you for also taking the time to rate it as C class. I made a few small edits, housekeeping to remove some of the DRAFT framework, hope that's all okay.

Is it possible to keep the previous Talk page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:Rogue_Planet_(Star_Trek:_Enterprise)
If it is too much hassle, I can always link back to it, and repeat any comments I think might still be relevant.

Thanks again. -- 109.76.132.93 (talk) 02:01, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

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Feed back Request: Draft:Revathi Pillai

Dear Robert McClenon,

I have modified the draft by incorporating all the suggestions that you have provided yesterday. The tone of the article has been changed to formal and neutral. I have added two more reliable references. I have tried my best to improve the draft, please have a look. It will be great to have your feedback before resubmission.

Thanks and Regards Ashish.viswanath (talk) 09:10, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft :Pir Syed Mohammad Kaleem Ahmad Khursheed

Hi Need help to improve this draft SidraRanaAdv (talk) 19:02, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Future film drafts notability clarification

I've seen that you have declined the drafts for Draft:The Addams Family 2, but your reasoning is unjust, as is with Draft:Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2021 film). It features reliable sources and even contains popular IPs which should increase it's notability. I believe you are judging their notability beyond the upcoming films criteria. Films that have already been released but don't have pages are subject to more strict guidelines such as needing notable reception, which is impossible to apply to upcoming films thus making every upcoming film impossible to become an article. I believe you should take another look at the notability for articles of future films as I see many reach the criteria. Iamnoahflores (talk) 19:36, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

User:Iamnoahflores - The guidelines concerning films that have been produced and not released are poorly written. I have been applying the guidelines as they are written, at least based on my reading of them. I am aware that there is at least one other interpretation. I have also been trying from time to time to get the guidelines revised, either to say more clearly what it literally says, or to say what the other group of editors think it says. I am willing to take this discussion back to the film notability talk page yet again, and am willing to send the discussion at the draft talk page back to the film notability talk page. Neither my talk page nor a draft talk page is the right place to discuss a poorly written guideline. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:59, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

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Marinduque National High School

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Draft: Moon Taeil

Hi! What can I do so that my Moon Tae-il draft article gets accepted?

Unsigned Note Moved from Top of Talk Page

Thanks for the suggestions, but neither they are paying me nor they are friends of mine. It is simple, they are making historical success for our country in the global positioning as leaders in production in medical cannabis. Before the business career, mr.Keskovski was succesful athlete who was world karate champion. I do not see the problem that a succesful company from Macedonia that exports solely in EU not to be part of Wikipedia.

Request on 05:27:06, 16 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Moontaeils

• Moontaeils (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Moon Tae-il (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi! What can you recommend so that my article draft gets accepted? Please tell me some tips or specify the parts of the draft that did not pass the criteria and please help me modify it.

Moontaeils (talk) 05:27, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

User:Moontaeils:

1. Read my comments. If you do not understand them, ask for advice at the Teahouse.

2. Read the autobiography policy.

3. Read the musical notability criteria.

4. Read my comments, which say that the draft does not identify which of the musical notability criteria the subject satisfies individually.

5. Read the autobiography policy. I do not plan to rewrite a conflict of interest draft.

Robert McClenon (talk) 15:38, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Request on 13:44:01, 16 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by MisterTech

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Hi Robert McClenon, thank you for reviewing my AfC submission. On the three points that you have raised:

1. You questioned the notability of the subject but it has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources including being covered multiple times by the BBC, and also by Wired, Znet, San Francisco Chronicle, The Dallas Morning News, TechCrunch, Cnet, The New York Times, Forbes, Engadget, etc
2. You say that "This draft is written from the viewpoint of the company", however it is not. It is written in my own words, for example nowhere does the company describe itself as an "indoor gardening company".
3. You also questioned whether there was a COI, but this was clearly declared when the draft was created https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Click_%26_Grow&oldid=1014871688

Please consider the points raised above.

MisterTech (talk) 13:44, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

RfC:Pahonia

@Robert McClenon: Hello, you previously stated at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Archive_207#Pahonia that "I will publish the RFC, and it will run for 30 days". The RfC at Talk:Pahonia#RFC: Pahonia was running since 15 June 2021 already, therefore I believe the consensus was already reached as the clear majority supported suggestion A. Can you close the RfC and take actions to the article according to decision of this RfC? -- Pofka (talk) 09:07, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: ? -- Pofka (talk) 18:52, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: ??? -- Pofka (talk) 15:17, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Is this the right section?

Did you post this in the right section? I ask because there is another section on ANI discussing paid editing and the section you posted to does not mention it. I also don't see a paid editing declaration on the user's page or ridicule of paid editing in the section. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 12:40, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I've just noticed that too. Should it be in WP:ANI#HOUNDING, TAGBOMBING, etc.? Narky Blert (talk) 14:02, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, just noticed this myself. Hope it's fine, but I've just moved it now. Magitroopa (talk) 15:16, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

@HighInBC, Narky Blert, and Magitroopa: - Thank you. I may have clicked the wrong section link, or there may have been a race condition issue that I have seen before where, if sections get archived by a bot while you are posting, it is possible for a certain sequence to open the wrong section. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:47, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I've seen that in WP:RFD, where clicking on a section link can lead you to inadvertently post in some other discussion altogether. Narky Blert (talk) 18:10, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

I have encountered that too. More often it manifests itself in a "Section not found" screen, but can also dump you in the wrong section. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 22:26, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Hyojung

While I see that you are reviewing my draft, I would like to know why it is taking so long? --Btspurplegalaxy (talk) 23:35, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Jose Perez (actor)

Hi Mr. McClenon,

You were kind enough to review my AfC a while back, and though you declined it, you explained why and gave me good advice for improving it, for which I am very grateful. Unfortunately, I didn't at the time understand that IMDB isn’t a reliable source, so I went through a period of citing more, but not better, sources, and becoming more emphatic instead of better documented, which, of course, caused me NPoV issues.

However, I think I have finally fully and properly addressed the issue(s) that afflicted my original draft and have found several sound secondary sources that clearly indicate Notability and would very much appreciate your feedback as to whether these citations do not meet the threshold required, and any other guidance you would be willing to give me.

(Hopper, Hedda (16 September 1953). "Puerto Rican Youngster [Jose Perez] Gets Part in 'Time of the Cuckoo'". L.A. Times. Retrieved 7 June 2021

Vernon, Terry (Jul 24, 1957). "Ex-Immigrant [Jose Perez] Portrays One in Drama of N.Y." Press-Telegram (Long Beach, California). Retrieved 8 June 2021,

"Jose Perez - An old newcomer makes the grade". The Morning Herald (Hagerstown, Maryland). Mar 23, 1974. Retrieved 8 June 2021

Gardella, Kay (Sep 12, 1973). "James Coco & Jose Perez Add Sparks to CBS Series". Daily News (New York, New York). Retrieved Jun 8, 2021

Holsopple, Barbara (Mar 29, 1974). "Jose Perez Pilots Racing Series; Public TV Speeds to Hill". The Pittsburgh Press (Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania). Retrieved 14 June 2021

"JOSE PEREZ GRADUATES". THE SUN TELEGRAM - TV WEEK. Mar 24, 1974. Retrieved 14 June 2021

Gardella, Kay (September 6, 1975). "[Jose] Perez Began New Career at Age 20". Dayton Daily News. Retrieved 7 June 2021

Wagner, Joyce (Aug 13, 1975)"Jose Perez Back to Steady Work". The Kansas City Times. Retrieved 7 June 2021

Miller, Jeanne (Oct 21, 1977). "He [Jose Perez] had to be in prison film". The San Francisco Examiner (San Francisco, California). Retrieved 19 June 2021.

Gardella, Kay (July 16, 1984). "Actor Jose Perez Serves TV Sentence in 'On The Rocks'". Daily News. Tribune Co. Retrieved May 7, 2021

Hastings, Jullianne (July 16, 1984). "Jose Perez reprises role as God". TV World. United Press International. Retrieved May 7, 2021)

Not to mention his award nomination

"ACE: And the nominees are. . ". United Press International. October 9, 1985. Retrieved 11 June 2021

Back when you reviewed my draft, I had not included any of these references, but now that I have, I continue to have it declined on Notability grounds and I am very confused. Is there something I am not understanding about these sources and the acceptability of the information they convey?

Thank you very much for your time. Perrydigm (talk) 00:18, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

References

Mr. McClenon, my most recent reviewer now says his newspaper(dot)com subscription has expired and that he can't access the content of these references. I would greatly appreciate it if you could just take a quick look and see if they are as persuasive as I think they are, or if I'm mistaken and this is a page that just isn't worth creating. Thank you, Perrydigm (talk) 23:57, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Proceedings

Just to say, I do appreciate your work here and I am content that you have taken wp:good faith as a guiding principle in your work which I think is very commendable. Later --Jabbi (talk) 13:12, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

I was mo-o-o-o-o-ved

by your eloquence. You're welcome. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:04, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Branko Jovanović (2) (July 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Arbitration case opened

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Hi, did you not look on The Game Changers talk page?

"Ok. I just want to notify you and jps that I began a dispute resolution thread - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#The_Game_Changers_discussion RBut (talk) 19:45, 24 July 2021 (UTC)"

Then if you look at the dispute resolution thread I started:

"Filed by RBut on 19:44, 24 July 2021 (UTC)."

I notified the two editors a minute after I opened the dispute. They are active on that page, which is why Duzumid has added his side of the dispute. You have written this 8 hours after I opened a dispute case and notified the editors:

"The filing editor has not notified the other editors. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:08, 25 July 2021 (UTC)"

RBut (talk) 09:39, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Iranian politics/Workshop

I removed what seemed like some old passing votes on your proposed principles, I assumed it was from a different case that you copied it from. CodeLyoko^talk 07:38, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Page on notable China art collector and author

Thank you kindly, Robert, for proposing a better page title. Your proposal for "Tony Miller (art collector)" is much more fitting.

My first time working with disambiguations. Appreciate your help, Campbell.

Rejection of article on Tony Seba

Robert McClenon--

Thank you for reviewing my article on Tony Seba.

It makes only factual claims, each (with a few exceptions) backed up by references to secondary sources. It was rejected as sounding "promotional."

Not sure what to do here. Given the number of secondary sources already cited, "just adding more secondary sources" seems unlikely to overcome the problem, whatever that problem is.

Which of the article's factual claims are deemed "promotional"?

What about those factual claims causes them to be so deemed?

Respectfully, --JimPlamondon (talk) 07:18, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

User:JimPlamondon - First, I did not state that the article was promotional. It had already been nominated for deletion when I looked at it. I was about to tell you to ask User:Riteboke or User:Theroadislong to explain, and I see that you have already asked User:Theroadislong. However, I will add that your style is very non-neutral. If you do not have a conflict of interest, and you say that you do not, then you are simply too enthusiastic about Seba to be able to write neutrally. Perhaps you are not familiar with the formal descriptive tone and style that are used in Wikipedia. If you do not have a conflict of interest, then you are writing as if your objective is to promote Seba, and your tone and style are more promotional than even those of most promotional submitters. I suggest that you ask for advice at the Teahouse. I have no idea whether Seba is notable, and am not capable of assessing his notability because the draft is "in your face". Robert McClenon (talk) 11:38, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

If you cannot see that your article reads promotionally, then you either are too emotionally involved, or do not understand how to write neutrally for Wikipedia. Robert McClenon (talk) 11:38, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Japanese Breakfast and Draft:Michelle Zauner

As per discussion of a merge of the Japanese Breakfast page and the Michelle Zauner draft I've removed the crossover information from the two pages so the former is exclusively about the band and the latter covers Zauner's career as a whole. Zauner is now notable enough outside of Japanese Breakfast to warrant her own page and Japanese Breakfast was already deemed a notable entity on its own. Will you reconsider the rejection of the Michelle Zauner page now there is a notable distinction between the two? Lewishhh (talk) 09:07, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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Request on 19:34:37, 30 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Latro-3

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  • Draft:Surveillance Studies Network (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Thank you for taking the time to review this submission. I appreciate it. While I understand the criterion of organizational notability, I do believe the submission illustrates that through secondary sources in reputable and authoritative venues. Certainly, the submission is supported by many more secondary sources than other notable professional academic associations, such as the American Studies Association, which doesn't appear to have any secondary sources as references. Perhaps professional academic associations are uniquely ill-suited to garner external references, but even if that is so, this submission has more than most. I'd welcome a second look, if you'd be willing, particularly since the previous reviewer User:Locomotive207 said it was "almost ready," and that was before the most recent round of revisions.

Thanks. Latro-3 (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Latro-3 (talk) 19:34, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

oops

Sorry, I wanted to remove my section, but removed a section not belonging to me. I pasted it back. I'm sorry if I messed things up. I'm new to this, obviously. Ngm 7 (talk) 19:46, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Komito_Analytics

I want to confirm that I have no direct conflict of interest without have any sort of financial or other connection with the subject of this draft regarding this page. I am stuck with having COI but have no advantages from the employer as I not getting paid in cash or any other form like favour or promotion and have 100% neutral POV. I am working as an UI/UX engineer at Datamart in Northern California office, and all the marketing and analytics staff including web analytics are in European offices. I work in the different department, in the different country, and I just use this software for my own projects, which helps me better understand the visitors behavior on a websites I maintain. While writing this article, I have tried my best to maintain a neutral point of view. Carolyn Hodges (talk) 20:20, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

Jalaledin Moayerian

Hi Robert,

First of all let me thank you for your time to review my Draft "Jalaledin Moayerian" and sorry if it appears contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia which was unintentional. As you know this is my first article and your advices would be helpful for me to know the reason of rejection of this submission.

Meanwhile, it would be appreciated if you could answer my questions below to improve my knowledge about Wikipedia articles to avoid similar mistakes in the future.

1. I have been advised to blow up and start over my draft. Could you please let me know how I can blow up the existing draft.

2. Please let me know which phrases / sentences of my draft are contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia to be deleted/amended in the next revision.

3. I have been considered as a close connection with this subject due to my surname. Is it permitted by Wikipedia if I create another account 'with an unknown username' and submit this draft to avoid the conflict of interest which was mentioned in the note provided by another reviewer.

Your anticipated attention is highly appreciated. Best regards, --Aria Moayerian (talk) 17:39, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

User:Aria Moayerian - I do not plan to rewrite a draft for you. I have a question for which a straight answer is required. Are you related to the subject of the draft? I will not answer the question about changing your user account name until you answer the question. I will not answer how to start your draft over until you answer the question. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:59, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I did not say that certain phrases in your draft are contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Submitting multiple drafts is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Failing to declare a conflict of interest is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia.

Robert McClenon (talk) 22:59, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Robert, Yes, the subject of the draft is my uncle. He lives in Iran and I am an Engineer living in Canada. I could provide my LinkedIn profile just to make sure that there is not any conflict of interest in between. I just noticed there was not any article about him in Wikipedia though he is a well known person in Iran as a makeup artist so, I tried to write a draft. Since Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia and welcomes any user to add value to it so, I just as a simple user decided to participate to issue this article based on the published reliable sources. It would be highly appreciated if you could advise me what action would be the best for having this article in Wikipedia. Thanks, Aria Moayerian Aria Moayerian (talk) 23:23, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Aria Moayerian - Wikipedia takes conflict of interest seriously. Your idea of changing your username in order to conceal the conflict of interest was contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. I suggest that you ask for advice at the Teahouse, but you need to be forthright about your conflict of interest. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:52, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

I already asked them for advice and they suggested you as a Wikipedia veteran. It seems it is a closed loop. Aria Moayerian (talk) 00:16, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

I asked for advice in Wikiproject AFC/ help dest as below and got different answer. It seems they don’t know the reason of rejection by you and provided some advices which makes me confused. Could you please have a look at the discussion below and advise me. 16:55:28, 31 July 2021 review of submission by Aria here is the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk?markasread=224286535&markasreadwiki=enwiki#16:55:28,_31_July_2021_review_of_submission_by_Aria_Moayerian Aria Moayerian (talk) 10:48, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Hans-Peter Wipplinger

Hi Robert. Re Draft:Hans-Peter Wipplinger and Draft:Hans-Peter Wipplinger(2), do you think one of these should be deleted? Normally I would help on a draft like this. However I am unsure which file is the one to edit. --- Possibly ☎ 06:55, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Possibly - It appears that they are the same or almost the same, and the history indicates that they are both translations from the German, which further indicates that they are probably the same. I would suggest redirecting the unsubmitted one to the one that has been submitted. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:34, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Possibly - I've redirected the second draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:55, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

thanks. I had not thought of redirect! --- Possibly ☎ 21:11, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Possibly - Redirecting of drafts, either to articles or to almost identical drafts, is more often in order than deleting them. At Miscellany for Deletion, we sometimes get requests to delete drafts because there is already an article, and the draft is usually speedily redirected instead. It is often a good idea to think of redirect when dealing with drafts. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:11, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft:2021-22 North American Winter

Hi Robert, When do you think I should submit the Draft for the 2021-22 North American winter page and also is there a way to make it go back to my user page so it would not have risk of being deleted. Wikihelp7586 (talk) 02:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Wikihelp7586 - You don't need to worry about deletion, at least not for inactivity. A draft is deleted if it is inactive for six months. In six months, it will be winter in North America. I advise you to update the draft when predictions are made about the severity of the winter, based on such considerations as El Nino Southern Oscillation. In the meantime, you can edit articles on the winter in the Southern Hemisphere or the summer in the Northern Hemisphere, including tropical storms in the Northern Hemisphere. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:08, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Okay thank you Robert. Wikihelp7586 (talk) 05:35, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Switch On

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Switch_On Hi Robert,

I am wondering why the draft Switch On keeps getting rejected. I have updated the citation of it from a legitimate source that was listed on Article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Korea/Reliable_sources) and the Korean Herald is also included in the citation which is pretty much like the NYTimes is the US. I have added the track listing along with the composers and lyricist. Since the album only came out yesterday in South Korea, there are no official charting yet so that has not been added. I did ask for advice and they said that it's because of the source which Naver is not reliable and I have changed it since then. Is there any other reasons why this keeps getting rejected since I have constantly updated the citation to make it more legitimate and have reviewed the notability music article and have tried following the article.

Lilylovesreading19 (talk) 18:21, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Lilylovesreading19 - See my comments at the Teahouse. Wait until the album charts. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:03, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

DRV formatting

Might I request that you reformat Special:Diff/1036298780 to make it more clear that all those paragraphs are yours? Generally, a bulleted paragraph indicates a new person. Perhaps just change all the bullets to indents? Not a huge deal, but it would make it easier to understand. Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:08, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

RfC closed

• Talk:Pahonia#RFC:_Pahonia

Just an fyi that the rfc is closed. - jc37 16:53, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Laurence Myers

The article, Laurence Myers or Lawrence Myers, as his name was also spelt, is currently waiting to be published. It not the same Laurence Eugene 'Lon' Myers that was an athlete.

The article I have been working on is about an iron foundry owner and inventor. When I submitted it for review, a redirect immediately came up to 'Laurence Eugene 'Lon' Myers. How can this redirect be canceled ? Thanks!

Vedlagt (talk) 08:36, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

User:Vedlagt - Yes. We know. Take a careful look at the notice declining your draft. Do you notice something about the reason your draft has been declined? Your draft has not been declined, and is waiting for review. If and when the draft is approved, the reviewer will, depending on what their privileges are, either: delete the redirect to accept the draft; move the redirect aside to accept the draft, and request that the redirect be deleted; tag the redirect to be deleted so that the draft can be accepted. Just wait for a review of the draft. We know that there are two different people. This is a common situation. We know. Just wait for a review of the draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:12, 7 August 2021 (UTC)