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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For information on retitling files, categories, and other items, see § When not to use this page.

Before moving a page or requesting a move, please review the article titling policy and the guidelines on primary topics.

Any autoconfirmed user can move a page using the "Move" option in the editing toolbar; see how to move a page for more information. If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

  • Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the _target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. In such cases, see § Requesting technical moves.
  • Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
  • A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
  • A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
  • Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are typically processed after seven days. If consensus supports the move at or after this time, a reviewer will perform it. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved." When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time, or closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Shortcuts

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Undiscussed moves

Shortcuts

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

  • No article exists at the new _target title;
  • There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
  • It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:WP:RM2|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.

If you object to a proposal listed here, please relist it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.

By the way, here's the old "Slob" page → Slob (version 2) (for the history). Rocket000 09:01, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete and contested proposals

  • Grupo Santander → Banco Santander - there was a previous discussion about combing the Grupo Santander and Banco Santander Central Hispano articles to Banco Santander, but it was merged to the Grupo Santander article. As that term is not used by the company itself (anymore), the proper entry should be Banco Santander Alast0r 00:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Northwestern → Northwestern University —(Discuss)— Most people who type in "Northwestern" are searching for Northwestern University as it is far more known than anything else on the list. I think that there should be a disambig link at the top of the page for those who are not searching for the University. There was a previous discussion which resulted in "no consensus" but there has been talk since that last poll and I think consensus will be reached this time around. —Wikipediarules2221 20:08, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I oppose this move as I think American Gangster should redirect to the film and not the disambiguation page. If you look at most of the incoming links, almost all of them relate to the film rather than the other two articles, which are in part both based on the film... See discussion on Talk:American Gangster (disambiguation). PaulC/T+ 00:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other proposals

November 5, 2007

  • Eddie Lee → Eddie Li —(Discuss)— Two different spellings for the same actor's name. Li seems to be most accepted, i.e. the actor shows up on IMDB under Eddie Li. Eddie Lee brings up a list of crew members, none of which seem to have any connection to the actor in question. —Esilenna 11:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

November 4, 2007

November 3, 2007

Oppose. There are both Macedonian and Bulgarian minorities in Albania and fail to see how to see why why the ethnic Macedonian spelling is preferred. ForeignerFromTheEast 22:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
An existence of a Bulgarian ethnic minority is not officialy recognized by official Albania.[5] (source: Southeast European Times),and hence the Bulgarian language is not in official use. There's no a reason why the title should be in Bulgarian. However I didnt remove the Bulgarian spelling inside the article, its still there (despite not being properly sourced) Dzole
Support. As seen above Albania says there is no Bulgarian minority. It would be irredentist POV to list Macedonian cities under Bulgarian names. Ireland101 23:32, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Meanwhile, several additional sources were added (explained in a detail), and an image, along with a source, which has been already accepted by many other editors in Vergina Star. Dzole 05:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Spice World (film) → Spice World —(Discuss)— Spice World currently redirects to Spiceworld (the album) with a hat to Spice World. This seems backwards to me. The movie is definitely better known, and the space/capital configuration is the proper spelling for the movie but improper for the album. A move to Spice World for the movie with a hat disambig at the top would suffice. — Revolving Bugbear (formerly Che Nuevara) 22:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Militsiya → Militia (Police) —(Discuss)— The term Militia was used in many former communist states in their respective official languages. Currently it is not clear what perspective the article deals with: Only the ex-Soviet and/or the modern Russian one? Or it includes the Eastern Bloc countries such as Poland which had the Milicja Obywatelska and the Non-Aligned SFR Yugoslavia which had its own Milicija? All of these countries regardless of their differences adopted the term "militia" for their police forces following the same Bolshevik Leninist example: The usage of the term "militia" for "police", despite its original military conotation, originates from early Soviet history, when the Bolsheviks intended to associate their new law enforcement authority with the self-organization of the people and to distinguish it from the "bourgeois class protecting" police. A decision should be made: either the article will deal with the Russian police only OR it will deal with all the (former) communist police forces named Militia regardless of the country. Moreover the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs (Ministry of Police) has its own article with a detailed overview of the history of law enforcement in Russia. —Dzole 02:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Elizabeth Charlotte, Princess Palatine → Elizabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate —(Discuss)— The current name for Liselotte is in a form which is almost always prescribed for individuals holding substantive titles or titles in their own right. Liselotte, however, was not one of these people, nor was she a princess in the sense of holding it as a title. The daughter of an elector, her father held a hereditary position and used the territorial designation of his reigning title, Count Palatine of the Rhine, that is, the Palatinate of the Rhine. Thus, Liselotte could be described as of the Rhine, of the Palatinate or of Simmern, the name of her line of the House of Wittelsbach. The designation of the Palatinate, however, is the most common one for her. —Charles 01:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

November 2, 2007

November 1, 2007

October 31, 2007

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed.

*Estonian pirates → Estonian vikings —(Discuss)— Sources overwhelmingly support "Estonian vikings":

  1. Estonian Vikings are mentioned in Heimskringla p.147 in the History of the Norse Kings according to "A Brief History of the Vikings" by Gwyn Jones.
  2. The Northern Crusades by Eric Christiansen. ISBN-13: 978-0140266535 Estonian Vikings on page 36
  3. A History of Pagan Europe by Prudence Jones; ISBN 0415091365 Estonian Vikings on page 166:
  4. Nordic Religions in the Viking Age by Thomas A. Dubois; ISBN 0812217144; Estonian Vikings, on page 177:
  5. A Brief History of the Vikings: The Last Pagans or the First Modern Europeans? ISBN 0786715995 from Back Matter: Heimskringla, p.147, uses the term viking here, even though the captors are later revealed to be Estonian.
  6. A History of the Vikings by Gwyn Jones ISBN-13: 978-0192801340 on page 167 The Scandinavian Community: speaks of trading towns of the Vikings: the Estonian Truso among the Swedish Birka, Norwegian Skiringssal (Kaupang) etc.
  7. Encyclopedia of World Biography By Paula Kay Byers, Suzanne Michele Bourgoin; ISBN 0787625515; Estonian Vikings on Page 491
  8. Mother of Kings by Poul Anderson; ISBN-13: 978-0765345028; An Estonian viking. on Back Matter
  9. Cassell's Encyclopaedia of World Literature By S. H. Steinberg, J. Buchanan-Brown ISBN 0688002285; Estonian Vikingson Page 222
  10. Folklorica (Uralic & Altaic) by Peter Voorheis ISBN-13: 978-0700709410; on Page 213:the living conditions of the Estonian Vikings on Page 215:...the Estonian Vikings at sea; on Page 216: deals with Estonian Viking times
  11. World Encyclopedia of Contemporary Theatre: Europe by Don Rubin; ISBN-13: 978-0415251570; The Estonian Vikings in Estonian: Vikerlased
  12. My Several Journeys Book One by Elizabeth Mulford ISBN-13: 978-1414064604 Estonian Vikings on page 127
  13. Historical Dictionary of Estonia; ISBN 0810849046; Estonian Vikings - Page 517 —Martintg 20:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree - Kevin Cooper (footballer) describes two Kevin Coopers, each born in 1975. I suggest (midfielder) is a tidier disambiguation than incorporating the DoB, which, incidentally, is in a format which is not internationally-recognised and therefore confusing.  — MapsMan [ talk | cont ] — 17:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Rodimus → Hot Rod (Transformers) - Discuss - Wikipedia: Naming conflict suggests quite clearly [[6]] that common names take precednce over current. Hot Rod is far better known than Rodimus and has been used in the bulk of fiction (including the most recent IDW comics), while Rodimus has only a few toys, and is used primarily because Hot Rod is copyrighted these days.SMegatron 14:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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