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Hey I just wanted to thank you for your help, but at this stage i don't believe i can find the required amount or quality of sources for the page. Ill try again when the community has gained more popularity. Thanks. Evergreen481 (talk) 23:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

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List of highest grossing Tamil-language films

Hello!!

If you remember, you deleted the "List of top Bollywood films" article as a result of this AfD, but you forgot to delete List of highest grossing Tamil-language films, which is the same just for Tamil films, and was also mentioned at the AfD. Someone, at the time of the AfD, just moved its name from top Tamil film to this name probably to avoid its deletion, while it's structured in the same way(it was originally copied). Actually it's worse than the article about the Bollywood films, because it's completely unsourced, much POV.

I therefore ask you to delete this article as well. After this a new article will be created in this structure. Shahid • ^Talk2me 07:57, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you not just edit the article to replace it with the new structure? Fritzpoll (talk) 09:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

There's a problem. While there are two leading sources for Hindi box office earnings, there isn't any source for Tamil box office earnings and collections. The info on this page is essentially POV of the editors (who are primarily anonymous IPs). Besides that, it is just a version of the "List of top Bollywood films" page, which is deleted. This page was part of the deal, and all the things discussed at AfD applies to this one as well, thus it should have been deleted as well from the beginning. Replacing this page with gross collections is impossible for several reasons. First, it will sure be reverted by different anons who have worked hard to add their OR; secondly, as mentioned above, no reliable sources concerning box office receipts of Tamil films are available.

The only way to go is deleting the article, frankly speaking, getting rid of any traces of its existence, and then giving editors the opportunity to start an article in the format of List of highest-grossing Bollywood films. This one has to be deleted, that's for sure. Shahid • ^Talk2me 21:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

This article was not directly discussed in this AfD, and I am therefore uncomfortable deleting it for the sake of convenience. Please ask User:MBisanz to evaluate this AfD and help decide on this issue. Fritzpoll (talk) 21:28, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Can you explain why my page for nozio was deleted when a similar page exists that has hardly any content or references and in my mind is clearly an advertisement for the company? for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotels.com Travelbrit (talk) 16:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you reference me a specific page, please? Fritzpoll (talk) 17:32, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

yes this page was deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nozio though other pages exist (like the one above) which are clearly against the guidelines that have been pointed out to me namely lack of references, lack of quality unbiased content clearly advertising in my mind. Travelbrit (talk) 21:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, that's an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS-kind of argument - I'm not allowed, by and large, to delete things willy-nilly on Wikipedia. If you think the other artices are promotional, you are free to nominate them for deletion by WP:PROD or WP:AFD. I imagine you would be proposing them for deletion per a lack of notability with an element of promotion. Up to you though. Fritzpoll (talk) 06:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Rollback request

Hi, I found on this page that you are willing to give rollback right? I seem to remember having seen your name on an AFD or something so that's why I'm asking you directly. The reason I wish to apply for rollback is that I've been doing a lot of cleanup and have dealt with vandalism a lot in the past few months, and having the rollback function could make thing easier in some instances. Is there any procedure to follow to be granted this right? Do I need to provide some proof that I need it? Please let me know. Thanks, Laurent (talk) 13:45, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Thunder 1000000

Now with a google search , thunder 1000000 still comes up second, but in my user namespace. So ha! Daniel Christensen (talk) 18:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not entirely certain what your obsession with mentioning this article on my talkpage is. I shall have to check that this page complies with policy now that you have pointed it out though Fritzpoll (talk) 18:41, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Sure this isn't the only time

What stops any user subpage or non main-namespace article from coming up in a Google search or any other search engine? Big question: How do those links get created in the first place? Are they automatic or is that what you do when you work for Google? Daniel Christensen (talk) 18:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Re

checking it out: Yes, God forbid the article is improper for the 5 people a day who view it. When at worst it is an eclectic collection of info from multiple sites. Daniel Christensen (talk) 18:58, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, Wikipedia isn't your personal web host - this is what admins are meant to do. As to your other question, I point you to Robots exclusion standard. Why do you keep coming here to my page to talk about this article, as though I would have a particular investment in it's existence or lack thereof? Fritzpoll (talk) 19:00, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		The "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar should be awarded to a user who figures out an elegant solution to a particularly burdensome bottleneck or problem, or who identifies a means to improve Wikipedia in a profound way. This barnstar is awarded to User:Fritzpoll for accomplishing, with his diplomacy and intellegence, what dozens, even hundreds, of editors were unable to do before: change wikipedia policy for the better, making wikipedia a more welcome place for new editors, by increasing the Article for Deletion time from 5 days to 7 days. On behalf of all editors who fight to save worthy articles, and for all new editors, today and throughout all time, thank you. Ikip (talk) 06:55, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

That's very nice - thank you, Ikip. :) Fritzpoll (talk) 07:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow! I didn't notice this. A seven-day cycle is more likely to allow editors who have a weekly editing time to notice an AfD. Yes, very good work. My opinion is that, generally, while the community can and should make ad-hoc decisions in shorter timespans than a week, discussions should probably remain open for a week if there is any lasting effect. It might avoid some DRVs in this case, but I'm thinking more of blocks and bans. --Abd (talk) 17:06, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

jzg rfc

Hi, Could you refactor your comment as I'm pretty sure it doesn't apply to me (first comment, and I don't have a habit of jumping on people, even Abd, or defending jzg - who I barely know), and hence its sweeping nature is unfair and inaccurate. Also, Abd already responded. I approve of the post you've made on his talk page, however. Thanks, Verbal chat 13:23, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Let me quickly have a look - from memory, I don't believe I was referring to you, but I will clarify this per your request Fritzpoll (talk) 14:05, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps an unusual review requested

Hi boss. As you probably don't remember, next month, I will have been an administrator for around a year. You opposed me during the course of my RfA, and now I have come to exact my revenge, Bwuhahahaha! I was rather hoping you might pass comment on how you think I'm doing. This probably sounds rather indulgent, but it's like a very focussed Editor Review, trying to work out if I've allayed fears etc. and I'll be asking a few other people for this opinion as well.

I'm rather hopeful of a positive reply, admittedly, but I will take negatives into account - severe enough, and I'll hand in my tools! In admin terms, I've been involved in a little DR here and there, and in the domain of deletions so that should provide some interesting material for you! Hope you can help. Best wishes, Fritzpoll (talk) 16:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Is there some page where this is operating? Stifle (talk) 20:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Nope - it isn't a formal process. If you want me to subpage it in my userspace for whatever reason, that's fine - I suggest User:Fritzpoll/Review. Fritzpoll (talk) 20:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll have a look. But it won't be immediate. Stifle (talk) 08:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Immediacy isn't an issue - take your time. I'm happy enough that you're willing to do it at all Fritzpoll (talk) 08:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Korean websites banned in South Korea (2nd nomination)

moved from user talk:ikip:

Closed this as keep - can you make the move that you suggested in the AfD? I'd do it, but am reluctant when I can't follow through on the cleanup Fritzpoll (talk) 10:19, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

thanks for closing it keep, I moved the article, added new sections, and a short one sentence intro. I appreciate your efforts! Have a great weekend! Ikip (talk) 11:11, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

You too, Ikip Fritzpoll (talk) 11:12, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Please restore User talk:JedRothwell

This was deleted by a bot that no longer operates, and is actually relevant to ongoing dispute, so please restore it. Thanks. --Abd (talk) 17:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Reviewing.... Fritzpoll (talk) 21:29, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I think I'd need a more compelling reason to undelete it than that the bot no longer operates, with specifics. If you are in dispute with someone, then I'd need details of that as well. I don't think you need involve me at this stage - might I suggest contacting User:KillerChihuahua who appears to have originally deleted it? Fritzpoll (talk) 22:01, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

No. The issue is the Talk page, not the user page, and the deletion in question is not the original deletion. There is a dispute over an alleged ban of this editor. Brief history, see Wikipedia:Requests for comment/JzG 3:

• JzG was in long-term dispute with Jed Rothwell.
• In 2006, JedRothwell, same editor, requested his Talk page be deleted. That was done by KC.
• Some time later the page was created again, by unknown editor.
• JzG blocked IP editor signing as Jed Rothwell.
• JzG declared editor banned through notice to Talk:Cold fusion.
• JzG was challenged over the ban.
• JzG, bypassing normal DR procedure, went to ArbComm, referenced in RfC, to get confirmation of ban.
• ArbComm rejected request as premature (a position I fully supported; indeed, that was the outcome I wanted).
• During the discussion, it was noted that there wasn't any block of the editor's registered account, which had not been used since 2006, when the editor also stopped making article edits and confined himself to Talk page comments, only to Talk:Cold fusion, and a few editor talk pages, which is exactly what policy would require, he has a conflict of interest, being a known expert in the field. MastCell obliged, with a note suggesting that if JzG needs a block and is involved, that he just ask.
• When MastCell blocked, I suspect, he placed the tag that would lead eventually to bot removal of the Talk page.
• New, nondisruptive edits by Jed Rothwell (he signs them with his name) are being removed as by a banned editor. That's not actually a problem, because, normally, any editor can bring them back in if the editor is willing to take responsibility for them: bans don't censor content or discussion, but prevent a banned editor from independently asserting content or discussion. Nevertheless, edit warring developed over this at Talk:Cold fusion.
• What happened on the JedRothwell Talk page may possibly be relevant to an RfAr arising out of the RfC. The deletion of a Talk page like this is unusual, in fact, particularly when there has been recent controversy over the editor, as there was in the RfAr from JzG. Hence the request. Thanks. --Abd (talk) 04:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Given that no such RfAr exists, that Arbcom are perfectly capable of viewing the deleted material, and that you've not apparently asked the deleting administrator first, I'm afraid I'm going to have to once again punt you towards them for now. Best wishes, Fritzpoll (talk) 08:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

The RfAr is the one planned to be filed due to the failure of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/JzG 3 to resolve the issue of administrative recusal. Sure, any arb can view the page, but I can't, so I don't know if it's relevant to be presented, or not, and thus not to waste their time if it is moot, but it is definitely relevant to the current dispute over the alleged ban of the editor, a dispute which led to Talk page edit warring over the last two days or so at Talk:Cold fusion, even if it isn't relevant to the coming RfAr. Never mind, then, I can see that you don't have a taste for this undeletion, I'll either ask another admin or go to WP:DRV. For my purposes, an email copy of the wikitext would be fine. Thanks for considering it. --Abd (talk) 16:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, one more point. There was no "deleting administrator," there was a bot deletion; the bot no longer operates, but, sure, I can ask the bot admin to undelete. I could ask MastCell to undelete as well, since he probably placed the tag that led to deletion, if I'm correct. But I can't tell that, since I can't see the article. No, I think I'll ask for an emailed copy, DRV would be unnecessarily disruptive. I don't really care if the page is undeleted or not, I just need to read it at this point. If it becomes relevant enough that other editors should be able to see it, I'll then go to DRV or whatever minimal action gets the job done. I expected it to be quick here, that's why I asked. It wasn't, so, my mistake. Sorry. --Abd (talk) 16:35, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. I just realized that wikitext isn't enough, I need history, so I'll be asking for undeletion or userification. Thanks again. --Abd (talk) 16:39, 19 April 2009 (UTC)